The Brexit Votes Have it: The U.K. Is Leaving The E.U.

[robb_k]

Americas power around the world has absolutely waned...That said, some consider that to be a good thing. Whether it is or not remains to be seen...Many allies are pleased that they've not been asked to participate in any military conflicts, however, several of those same countries have been victimized by terrorist attacks and have yet to see the results of several US led and inspired international actions...Agreement with and massive funding to Iran, non- action in Syria while Russian influence dramatically increases, Russian "reset" which unset as Russia increases it's influence in European countries bordering it as they invade neighboring sovereign countries with nary a peep from us, extremist groups increasing influence and power in Africa, and the fallen stature of our military around the world [[best illustrated by the recent events with the Iranian Navy) due to sgnificant funding cuts and a declining lack of morale...And on the domestic front...a well intentioned health care plan [[ACA) which is falling apart like a house of cards as the largest insurers United Health Care and Blue Cross) in America begin dropping out of the exchanges and stand close to a state of economic collapse without massively increasing revenues [[massive tax increases), increasing gun violence [[not the kind of guns Congress is fixated on) in all of our major cities, falling labor participation rate [[# of people in the economy who are ACTUALLY working), more poverty combined with class and racial disparity and conflict, massive national debt in which every child born will start life owing close to $100,000 before they leave the maternity ward, etc, etc...The next President will have his/her hands full...and unfortunately...in my opinion, neither of the current candidates are even remotely qualified, neither temperamentally, politically, or ethically to deal with the state our country finds itself in...Just my opinion...Of course as always, dissenting opinions are welcome, and even appreciated...

Just like Ancient Egyptian Empire, The Persian Empire, Alexander The Great's Empire, The Roman Empire, The Byzantine Empire, The Ottoman Empire, and The British Empire went on a long decline, and eventually fell, and their core countries became ordinary, or even a poor country, in some cases, USA will have the same fate. It's a law of economics. The rise includes grabbing wealth and an inflow of resources from other [[conquered) nations. The conquering country gets richer and richer. Wages keep rising until it is cheaper to produce in poorer countries, where labour costs will be lower, and desperate people are willing to work very hard for low pay. When manufacturing flows out, higher wages move elsewhere, profits from production move elsewhere and now expensive products must be bought because from other countries because they aren't produced locally anymore. The once wealthy country can't produce its food or tools or what it needs any more. They become dependent upon other countries. It is clear that Great Britain is well along that path and USA has started along it as well.

[StuBass1]

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Just like Ancient Egyptian Empire, The Persian Empire, Alexander The Great's Empire, The Roman Empire, The Byzantine Empire, The Ottoman Empire, and The British Empire went on a long decline, and eventually fell, and their core countries became ordinary, or even a poor country, in some cases, USA will have the same fate. It's a law of economics. The rise includes grabbing wealth and an inflow of resources from other [[conquered) nations. The conquering country gets richer and richer. Wages keep rising until it is cheaper to produce in poorer countries, where labour costs will be lower, and desperate people are willing to work very hard for low pay. When manufacturing flows out, higher wages move elsewhere, profits from production move elsewhere and now expensive products must be bought because from other countries because they aren't produced locally anymore. The once wealthy country can't produce its food or tools or what it needs any more. They become dependent upon other countries. It is clear that Great Britain is well along that path and USA has started along it as well.

Hi Robb...Agree with much of your initial premise, although I'm not sure I believe in the Donald Trump theory that cheap Chinese labor is going to be our downfall, especially with our clear advantage in technology,but our debt to them might push us in that direction...however, I believe you fail to mention an even more significant cause of the fall of the examples you brought up...that being what we refer to today is overt multi-culturalism. Neither Empires, nor societies can exist when separate cultures, languages, traditions, and especially separate laws and rules for various segments of a given society exist within a single entity...That being the reason that Brexit Brits claim they want their country back, as is the issue here in the US...unfortunately, all we've got is Donald Trump to overhype and trumpet that message, but Trump is a mild version of what I fear will happen in a country like Germany when the traditional population finally decides that the massive wave of new immigrants bringing their cultures, values, religious edicts, and nonassimilation, will pull much of the country to the right and I can only imagine what in a country like Germany...who after all brought us Kristallnacht, mass deportations, and of course...labor and death camps...It's in their national DNA and they've done it before...von Hindenburg was as much loved then...perhaps more, than Merkel is today with her popularity on the wane...One huge economic downturn where the German population can't afford the food, while the government feed the immigrant population, a terrorist assault, and continued assaults on German citizens by immigrants, and one charismatic demagogue at the right place at the right time as the population begins to feel more and more impotent... and I truly fear what will happen in Germany especially, and elsewhere...