The Brexit Votes Have it: The U.K. Is Leaving The E.U.

[theboyfromxtown]

I heard someone put forward this hypothetical question in a debate.

How would America react to being told that it is now going to be run from Mexico, in a lavishly built office to be paid for by the American people. The rules will be made by unelected officials and there will be free movement of people between America and Mexico. The dollar will be replaced by the peso.

[StuBass1]

I heard someone put forward this hypothetical question in a debate.

How would America react to being told that it is now going to be run from Mexico, in a lavishly built office to be paid for by the American people. The rules will be made by unelected officials and there will be free movement of people between America and Mexico. The dollar will be replaced by the peso.

Very good analogy...Ultimately, the EU becomes a highly centralized economic model similar to the Hugo Chavez/Sean Penn model which is now predictably tearing Venezuala apart...Venezuela, with some of the most profitable oil reserves in the world didn't, like many other oil producing countries did...plan for the fluxuating downturn in oil prices due primarily to Chavez's economic ignorance...except he was smart enough to make sure his sister became the wealthiest person in Venezuela... Today...there are people starving in the streets of Venezuela and there is no food except for the political elite...and those protesting the governments policies are being shot in the streets by Venezuelan authorities...That's what Socialism has brought us each and every time it's been tried...No exceptions, except perhaps the "new wave" utopian model Bernie Sanders had promised us LOL...

[soulster]

I heard someone put forward this hypothetical question in a debate.

How would America react to being told that it is now going to be run from Mexico, in a lavishly built office to be paid for by the American people. The rules will be made by unelected officials and there will be free movement of people between America and Mexico. The dollar will be replaced by the peso.

The U.K. joining the E.U. happened decades ago. You make it sound like it was last week.

BTW, Mexico is in America. So is Canada. We are all three sovereign nations. We are talking to you from the U.S.. What you should be speaking of is sovereignty.

I see what you're saying, and I don't disagree, but didn't the U.K. become part of the E.U. in 1973, almost a decade after it formally applied for membership by a conservative?

[StuBass1]

The U.K. joining the E.U. happened decades ago. You make it sound like it was last week.

BTW, Mexico is in America. So is Canada. We are talking to you from the U.S..

So the UK was a member of the EU for a few decades based on the decisions of politicians at that particular time after governing themselves for close to 1,000 years...It took the Colonies over 150 years to get tired of being ruled by a foreign power and sending massive taxes overseas to prop up a monarchy, much like the current Brits got tired to living by rules and laws largely established in Brussels by politicians...many of whom are there only because they lost elections in their home countries...The fact that the UK are Islands around the rest of the European continent and we are landlocked with Mexico and Canada fails to add significance to the fact that Canada and Mexico are different country's than ours, different cultures and laws which we must abide by when we travel to those countries...however, those cultures and laws have no business impacting the laws established in 1787 by OUR Constitution, unless the Congress and the people HERE decide to change those laws through the amendment process...If we abided by Mexicos laws...we would imprison every illegal or "undocumented" immigrant who entered our country, because that's what they do...and obviously, we don't want to model our laws after the ineffective laws of a country that is largely run by drug cartels...As for Canada...their health care system is horrible...A person I know well was told to wait 9 months for a necessary surgical procedure...She happened to move here, and after a 90 day probation period with the employer provided medical insurance had the surgery within 3 weeks...It's horrible up there which is why those Canadians who can afford it come here and pay cash for their medical treatments...As for our new ACA...Without MASSIVE revenue increases [[meaning huge tax increases on all Americans), the system will crash within two years...Supporters shrugged off the largest health Insurance company, United Health Care, claiming that it's losses with the ACA were unsustainable when they announced they were pulling out of the California [[the largest health care market in America) and just did...NOW, Blue Cross, the company with the most vested interest in the ACA has just announced that they can't sustain and are pulling out of the Minnesota exchange...I have a friend whose wife has a huge job Anthem Blue Cross and was actually acting CEO for a brief period...When the ACA first came in they were flying high...built a condo in Maui where they allowed her to work from 6 months of the year, along with their Los Angeles area house, and the condo they bought for their kid in Las Vegas...That was when the dollars from the ACA were flowing in and they hadn't paid much out yet and bonus plans to employees were most generous for a brief period of time...A couple of years later...Anthem Blue Cross is cutting back drastically as the bills coming in are not keeping pace with the premiums coming in...My friends, who have spent the majority of their adult lives in Southern California might be forced to move to the Blue Cross home office in Indiana...Sucks, but it's all been predictable...

[theboyfromxtown]

The U.K. joining the E.U. happened decades ago. You make it sound like it was last week.

BTW, Mexico is in America. So is Canada. We are all three sovereign nations. We are talking to you from the U.S.. What you should be speaking of is sovereignty.

I see what you're saying, and I don't disagree, but didn't the U.K. become part of the E.U. in 1973, almost a decade after it formally applied for membership by a conservative?

Soulster

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