Excellent charismatic performance. How long after this performance did Motown finally release the album? Such a good album. In my top 5 of Diana Ross solo albums.
Excellent charismatic performance. How long after this performance did Motown finally release the album? Such a good album. In my top 5 of Diana Ross solo albums.
This performance was in June or early July of 1991. Such a confusing time, but we now know Motown delayed the release. I began looking for the new single and LP immediately following this airing. BET added TFBTP to their video playlist soon after and... nothing. In early September I ran across the new DR single—WYTMTYLM, not TFBTP? The album was finally released in late September.
I would love to know the real reason of u.s. motown's dismal marketing performance..some beef was going on between Ross and executives at the label.. something was going down it's been said they resented her new clout on returning to the label but at the end of the day it's business and personal agendas shouldn't interfere but in the 90s Motown for diana they did..the force was a strong product with good songs and diana willing to promote it..she deserved better
Absolutely! This was many years before the internet, so few people knew what was happening. I remember being happy to find WYTM, but thinking, “WYTM? Where is the FBTP single?”
My notes have this performance taking place on May 20, 1991. As Johnny B wrote above, there was a lot of confusion over single choice, videos, etc. It was such a mess that really messed up the album's chances, at least in the US.
I recall Diana saying something like every time she was set to put out a new release, Motown had a new head.
After a while, I gather it became really frustrating. There was a brief quote in Rolling Stone [I think] where she said record executives "piss" on your dreams or something like that. By 1995, supposedly she was complaining about Motown backstage at the Soul Train 25th Anniversary Special.
But in 1999, in USA Today, she did mention that she connected with the current head, Kedar Masseburg, when he brought her a song for her upcoming album and it ended up being one she found and was interested in as well, UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN.
I would love to hear that story!
I actually did. What a mess it was. I cannot even watch the whole interview with Shirley Mac Laine, since it is too embarrassing. Poor Diana.
I've seen the interview before and I was embarrassed for all of them even Diana with how she reacted. I love her but she needed to lighten up, she doesn't always have to be so serious.
As much as I respect miss Ross I'm fully aware she has,at times, showed a disappointing behavior..but on aspel she was totally right to be pissed I was annoyed and uncomfortable just watching maclaines behavior let alone having to be in studio sitting next to it..Diana was spot on in the last couple of minutes when she said "would it be appropriate if a man was doing it to a woman? ".. Shirley was acting like that because for 15 mins the show wasn't about her..I've always liked Shirley [[ her chapters in her autobiography " my lucky stars" about Sinatra and the rat pack is one of best things I've ever read)..but she acted like a fool Diana had every right to be exasperated on this occasion
I was an admirer and i did request her autograph for my father who was a huge fan. Thankfully i asked her before she started drinking and she was quite friendly up to that point. Michael Aspel seemed to revel in Ms Ross's discomfort and displeasure. That surprised me because a few years earlier she had been a guest on his Capital radio show and they had got along like a house on fire. She was more than eager to appear on his tv show, but she swore never to cross paths with him again, and i do believe she stuck to that vow.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ldKkhIMZ3kg
Maclaine was outta control and showed no respect by interrupting the interview. Maybe once would be ok that’s it. I doubt Diana would act like Maclaine? However, I do understand the comments that Diana needs to relax. I wonder how other stars would have reacted to Maclaine’s behavior? I would have pissed off because of the constant interruptions.
It was truly dreadful. It took almost 5 hours to record the programme that ran for around 45 mins minus the adverts. The director almost cried tears of anger and frustration.
Diana did herself few favours by shaking her head in disapproval. This merely encouraged Shirley to ramp up the bad behaviour. You saw only a fraction of the turmoil in the heavily edited broadcast. I think the Diana of the 70's and 80's would have walked off the set, but it is to her credit that she showed a reasonable level of restraint.
On a personal note it is nice to see you back on the forum. I suspect you have endured serious health concerns during this awful time. Same goes for me. I hope you are feeling better and can face the future with confidence. Take care and be safe.
When she appeared on the Tonight Show in 1991, Diana had a somewhat similar experience with one of the other guests, Mel Brooks. During the interview with Johnny, she was talking about what had happened in her life, how she had had two children very close together, etc. Mel kept interrupting her with jokes and you could tell she was getting a bit irritated, although she kept smiling. At one point she said "I'm not going to compete with this [[pointing to Mel) at all."
At the end, when Johnny was going down the line to say goodbye to the guests, Diana jumped onto Mel's lap right when it was his turn and playfully bopped him in in the head. Johnny made a crack and Mel said "Life has improved!"
This is much faster then the recorded version. Diana does well to keep up lol.
A song I always enjoy hearing and perfect for these rather troubled times.
As a kid I hated it, but as an adult it has grown on me. I thought it had been released as a single here in the US but I can find no evidence of this. I doubt it would have done much of anything on the pop chart, but I think she might have gotten an R&B hit out of it, especially with Stevie's involvement. Anyway, I do love the performance on Arsenio [[and the subsequent interview).
always been on of my all time fav Ross solo songs.. i love the beat,the choir, the lyrics and her vocal.. the song lifts me up and had always given me strength when times have been tough
The words in this song don’t flow right. I think it’s too many words.
What a massive shame it never came to be. In my opinion Diana & Stevie are a natural. The song might have created more of a splash had it been a duet. It certainly would have generated further interest.
Here in the UK it did quite well, but might have done even better had this been the case.The only rather large downside being the problem of tv promotion. :[[
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Damn 5 hours for that. I am completely stunned and suprised she even had the time for that. IMO she typically doesn't posseess much flexibility and likes things done her way. I bet she has never been late for a performace! Why tbe hell did she stick around? I am not a huge Ross fan [[and no I don't hate her), but will lstick up for her on the one!
I will try to message you later to explain the last year's events.
After Berry Gordy sold Motown the company was not in a good state. For years the overhead was too expensive and big compared to the turnover. When MCA and Boston Ventures stepped in, Ms Ross was part owner of the brand and her desire was to invest in younger artists. However, we all know it can take up to 2 years before an artist becomes profitable. The private equity party did not have this time. So, that dream was shattered.
As has been mentioned many times before, the US market is mainly focussed on New and Happening artists. Legacy artist, or heritage artists are always struggling to reach the charts. Yes, the sell concerts, but are seen as not "current" enough.
Motown was struggling with several take overs, a revolving team of managers, who all wanted to put their mark on the legendary label. Remember the rebranding of the Motown Logo, the one that looked like the Warner Music logo upside down? When Polygram took over they heavily invested in the brand, by opening the Motown Cafe's, planning for Motown branded cars and other gadgets.
In all that turmoil many artists where left on their own. No support or proper planning, no real team and most had to invent it all themselves. Ms. Ross had experience in this, so she organized her own tours, did her best to promote and got booked on some shows.
As it now seems, Motown is in stable waters now, has a relatively long serving CEO and even an musical identity, hip hop and gospel.
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