Originally Posted by
juicefree20
MsM,
I agree with you. But I'll give you my perspective as to why the return of some are unlikely...
The truth of the matter is that back in the heyday [[circa 2001 - 2008), most people were just happy to be chatting with legends. Because of that, a lot of things were taken for granted & some things received a pass. Opinions offered by some legends were simply taken as fact, as there were few here to neither comfirm nor refute claims. As time went on, other people whom were actually there began offering differing accounts of the truth & that caused a bit of a crack in the armor.
From my perspective, we went from being a forum where we took for granted that some were ''straight shooters'', to discovering that there were some heavy politics & personal agendas going on behind the scenes. Unfortunately, many of us learned far more about some folks than we ever wanted to know & some of what was learned took a bit of the shine off of what many of us THOUGHT that we knew about some of our favorites.
Where most of us who come with no particular agenda[[s) can admit our mistakes & even apologize for them, while trying to do better in the future, there are some who simply can't take that look into the mirror & simply say, "Hey, I f'd up, I'm sorry & let's let the past be the past".
They can't do this because to them, we "regular'' folks were & still are just that..."REGULAR" folks whom were & are expected to simply shut up & appreciate the jewels of wisdom which were/are imparted. Because this knowledge was being imparted, there were times when rudeness & denigration of CERTAIN artists was also an acceptible part of the package.
As one who watched & was a part of a lot of crap being played out, truthfully, none of what happened ever had to play out as it did. But once a lot of people whom were considered to be ''cool'' were able to be flipped by former ''enemies'' for the price of hanging at a few parties & things as such, it was pretty guaranteed that things woud never be quite the same again.
Despite some pretty nasty stuff being said & written, Ralph still extended several olive branches, but was rebuffed at every turn. A couple of the people who left simply weren't content to live & let live. They simply wanted everyone whom they viewed as threats to be eliminated. It was kinda like an attempt of palace coup & when Ralph didn't agree, "The Streets" is what we got.
For my part, that happened too long ago to continue to hold on to the anger of those days. I've seen & have been around most of the participants & it was just as I said that it would be. I believe that more than a few never really wanted to leave SDF, but once they got caught up in the hype, allowed themselves to get caught up with the lies, I don't believe that they could ever come back here knowing that a lot of people discovered how they really operate[[d).
For obvious reasons, as long as some of us like Dyva, Dollar Bill, Tres & myself remained, they would never be comfortable. Again, in the early days, a lot was taken for granted simply because of who was saying certain things. But once the friednships fractured & some of us began meeting people whom were also there back in the day, it would no longer be a matter of some being able to be the sole arbiters of truth, nor would it be possible for some to take credit for things which they may or may not have done in the past.
THAT was the biggest dynamic change, as well as one of the major reasons why it was desirous for some to be banned. When that didn't happen, some simply couldn't do what many others have done, which was simply to tuck the old ego into the pocket & simply chill.
And if you look around Facebook, you'll see why some haven't come back, because you'll see the same rants & the same "Me" syndrome. Facebook is designed so that one can cherry-pick their friends...friends whom will suck up everything that is said like a Hoover & that's where the egos of some are. They don't really want discussion, they want their words to go unchallenged & unquestioned & that would no longer fly here. Perhaps it would amongst the diehard fans whom aren't concerned with the truth, but are into worshipping names more because of the NAME & far less because of the TRUTH.
Ignorance is bliss & while some are content to live that way, many others aren't, which would make entering these doors a little uncomfortable for some.
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