Flo movie confirmed!

pshark · 10-15-2010, 05:27 PM

Geesh, somebody should make a movie of this thread

useyourchucklemuscle · 10-15-2010, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by pshark

Geesh, somebody should make a movie of this thread

I love Charle's trews!

topdiva1 · 10-15-2010, 06:09 PM

I wonder how much of the movie will be devoted to Flo's time in The Supremes.

**marv2** · 10-15-2010, 09:22 PM

Enjoy!

**soulballad** · 10-16-2010, 09:17 AM

Whether this movie is made or not made it's still poetic justice for Flo and her family! The plan was to erase her from Supremes history and minimize her importance in the Supremes and in music in general. But here we are over 40 years after she was let go from the group and over thirty years since her passing still talking about Florence Ballard. Not bad for a background singer way behind Diana Ross [[I'm being sarcastic here!) We've had the Mysteries And Scandals, Unsung and now a movie is being talked about, not to mention lot's of vaulted material some of which should have been released. This is pretty good in my opinon. This just shows how things come around regardless of some of the negative things being said. In a sense Flo gets the last say! Of course Florence couldn't care less about any of this because she resting in peace but it must feel good for her girls to see they're mom's still out there. I bet this is a big shock and surely unnerving for those who played a part in this mess. Poetic justice is served again!They'll get to live long uneasy lives always watching and making sure that the truth doesn't get out [[especially while they're still alive)and protecting the image that most of us know now was just a facade. Florence get to be at peace and her light shines brighter here on Earth too!

topdiva1 · 10-16-2010, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by soulballad

Whether this movie is made or not made it's still poetic justice for Flo and her family! The plan was to erase her from Supremes history and minimize her importance in the Supremes and in music in general. But here we are over 40 years after she was let go from the group and over thirty years since her passing still talking about Florence Ballard. Not bad for a background singer way behind Diana Ross [[I'm being sarcastic here!) We've had the Mysteries And Scandals, Unsung and now a movie is being talked about, not to mention lot's of vaulted material some of which should have been released. This is pretty good in my opinon. This just shows how things come around regardless of some of the negative things being said. In a sense Flo gets the last say! Of course Florence couldn't care less about any of this because she resting in peace but it must feel good for her girls to see they're mom's still out there. I bet this is a big shock and surely unnerving for those who played a part in this mess. Poetic justice is served again!They'll get to live long uneasy lives always watching and making sure that the truth doesn't get out [[especially while they're still alive)and protecting the image that most of us know now was just a facade. Florence get to be at peace and her light shines brighter on Earth!

AT LAST - someone who spoke the truth in an elegant way. I thank you sir - Yes most of us know that the image the remaining Supremes and others from Motown are protecting is just a fake facade - but many do not want to look behind that facade - and thus spill hatred for those that have dared to pull the curtain back.

I thank you for your words for you speak the natural truth.

Flo Ballard's children desire a film to be made about their mother - that sets history - and hysterical people straight at last.

Flo is having the last laugh some 40 years later - and I hope will now find eternal peace.

**marv2** · 10-16-2010, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by soulballad

Whether this movie is made or not made it's still poetic justice for Flo and her family! The plan was to erase her from Supremes history and minimize her importance in the Supremes and in music in general. But here we are over 40 years after she was let go from the group and over thirty years since her passing still talking about Florence Ballard. Not bad for a background singer way behind Diana Ross [[I'm being sarcastic here!) We've had the Mysteries And Scandals, Unsung and now a movie is being talked about, not to mention lot's of vaulted material some of which should have been released. This is pretty good in my opinon. This just shows how things come around regardless of some of the negative things being said. In a sense Flo gets the last say! Of course Florence couldn't care less about any of this because she resting in peace but it must feel good for her girls to see they're mom's still out there. I bet this is a big shock and surely unnerving for those who played a part in this mess. Poetic justice is served again!They'll get to live long uneasy lives always watching and making sure that the truth doesn't get out [[especially while they're still alive)and protecting the image that most of us know now was just a facade. Florence get to be at peace and her light shines brighter here on Earth too!

Soulballad, great post. I've known since 1976 that this story, Florence Ballard's story would never go away. It hit too hard and hurt too much for a lot of people. There was a real concerted effort to "erase"Florence and get the public to forget about here and more precisely, what happened to her. [[They cut her pictures out of some of the Supremes photos at the Old Motown Museum).

She may have left this World, but those responsible for her misery will never have any peace. When I was younger, it use to puzzle me how people could defend obvious corruption and wrongdoing. Today all that does is causes me to question the moral characters of people that do the defending. It's called bearing false witness I believe when I hear, "Florence did IT to herself". When people say that they are purposely telling only a percentage of the total story behind Florence Ballards' life and trying to cover for someone.

Poetic Justice is a good term to describe this phenomena regarding the public's fascination with the life of Florence Ballard. Her memory is giving fits to some.

topdiva1 · 10-16-2010, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by marv2

Soulballad, great post. I've known since 1976 that this story, Florence Ballard's story would never go away. It hit too hard and hurt too much for a lot of people. There was a real concerted effort to "erase"Florence and get the public to forget about here and more precisely, what happened to her. [[They cut her pictures out of some of the Supremes photos at the Old Motown Museum).

She may have left this World, but those responsible for her misery will never have any peace. When I was younger, it use to puzzle me how people could defend obvious corruption and wrongdoing. Today all that does is causes me to question the moral characters of people that do the defending. It's called bearing false witness I believe when I hear, "Florence did IT to herself". When people say that they are purposely telling only a percentage of the total story behind Florence Ballards' life and trying to cover for someone.

Poetic Justice is a good term to describe this phenomena regarding the public's fascination with the life of Florence Ballard. Her memory is giving fits to some.

Great post from Marv and Soulballard.

ZI am sure just the talk of this movie is giving fits to some - and cash to their lawyers.

But, for the Motown Musuem to have cut out pictures of Flo Ballard and remove them from display 0 is plain silly and bearing witness to an old childhood vendetta - who could be so damn petty.

**marv2** · 10-16-2010, 09:25 AM

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topdiva1 · 10-16-2010, 09:28 AM

Thanks

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**soulballad** · 10-16-2010, 09:56 AM

It still amazes me how people are so quick to shift all of the blame to Florence, completely overlooking the cause and what started it all. In my older age I understand that people need to believe whatever makes them most comfortable regardless of if it's right or wrong! It's like that uneducated white racist who lives in a shed deep in Mississippi who still believes that just because he's white he's better than every black person. In his heart of hearts he knows he's at the bottom of the barrel but he keeps holding on to that lie because he's nothing without it! Florence was not perfect and of course NO ONE is but a lot of the tactics and manipulations used on her and against her where just EVIL. After a while it seemed that some people where really getting off on trying to bring her down. That kind of hate is coming from a really dark place and it makes me wonder if she really did know something more. I don't know???
I have to also mention that there where a lot of people on Flo's side the whole time but they also felt powerless and scared. A lot of them were careful about being around her or avoided her altogether fearing that the same might happen to them. Years later everyone "claims" to be one happy loving family. Yeah right!

topdiva1 · 10-16-2010, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by soulballad

It still amazes me how people are so quick to shift all of the blame to Florence, completely overlooking the cause and what started it all. In my older age I understand that people need to believe whatever makes them most comfortable regardless of if it's right or wrong! It's like that uneducated white racist who lives in a shed deep in Mississippi who still believes that just because he's white he's better than every black person. In his heart of hearts he knows he's at the bottom of the barrel but he keeps holding on to that lie because he's nothing without it! Florence was not perfect and of course NO ONE is but a lot of the tactics and manipulations used on her and against her where just EVIL. After a while it seemed that some people where really getting off on trying to bring her down. That kind of hate is coming from a really dark place and it makes me wonder if she really did know something more. I don't know???
I have to also mention that there where a lot of people on Flo's side the whole time but they also felt powerless and scared. A lot of them were careful about being around her or avoided her altogether fearing that the same might happen to them. Years later everyone "claims" to be one happy loving family. Yeah right!

OUTSTANDING POST Just great - thanks so much for trying to enlighten us all.

What happened to Flo Ballard from what I have read - from Nelson George's book to most of the others was a crying shame - founding in EVIL WICKEDNESS,

**marv2** · 10-16-2010, 09:59 AM

They tortured that girl.

smark21 · 10-16-2010, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by marv2

They tortured that girl.

During the GW Bush years, the United States adopted their torture and rendition practices on terrorist detainees by emulating how Berry and Diana tortured Flo. Poor Flo.

topdiva1 · 10-17-2010, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by smark21

During the GW Bush years, the United States adopted their torture and rendition practices on terrorist detainees by emulating how Berry and Diana tortured Flo. Poor Flo.

I guess you think this is funny - damn your an idiot

**marv2** · 10-16-2010, 10:16 AM

You remember that movie "The Omen"? The nurse/nanny that would do anything it took to protect "Damien"? Elements of that film I get reminded of whenever I read what a few people write in defense of what happened, what was done to Florence Ballard. They sound like they would do anything to protect certain people......not short of throwing themselves out a window!

People laugh and shrug it off when the word "evil" is used nowadays, it sounds so old fashioned, but churren, let me tell ya it is very alive in this World right now..........

**marv2** · 10-16-2010, 12:25 PM

Go to Google.com , type in faith evans as florence ballard. Tell me what you see.

**Motown_M_1056** · 10-16-2010, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by marv2

Go to Google.com , type in faith evans as florence ballard. Tell me what you see.

Bullshit put there by Faith Evans and other delusional fanatics like you!

topdiva1 · 10-16-2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Motown_M_1056

Bullshit put there by Faith Evans and other delusional fanatics like you!

There is nothing DELUSIONAL about a movie on Flo Ballard. As good or bad this movie will make a ton of money.

topdiva1 · 10-16-2010, 09:41 PM

If this film is made - people like you will make it millions.

It will of course begin and remain shrouded in drama., controversy, and ill will.

However, somebody's about to get paid, and it ain't ya'll.

jonc · 10-17-2010, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by topdiva1

If this film is made - people like you will make it millions.

It will of course begin and remain shrouded in drama., controversy, and ill will.

However, somebody's about to get paid, and it ain't ya'll.

And it certainly ain't you Tony Tucker.

topdiva1 · 10-17-2010, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by jonc

And it certainly ain't you Tony Tucker.

Florence Ballard via this movie - and even the Unsung piece still has Supreme Glamour and real GLORY.

I wonder if any former Supremes - FEAR THE DEAD

topdiva1 · 10-17-2010, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by jonc

You are one stupid cow Tony Tucker. No former living Supreme fears the late Florence Ballard.

I would not be so sure - reports are that Diane Ross is into santaria!!! All former Supremes are living except the great Florence Ballard - and many fear the spirit world.

BOO!!

**marv2** · 10-18-2010, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by topdiva1

I would not be so sure - reports are that Diane Ross is into santaria!!! All former Supremes are living except the great Florence Ballard - and many fear the spirit world.

BOO!!

I knew that for a while, but never heard it mentioned publicly.

topdiva1 · 10-17-2010, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by jonc

And it certainly ain't you Tony Tucker.

If you are talking about Tony Turner - he won't miss the money, I assure you.

**captainjames** · 10-17-2010, 10:26 PM

well as soon as I can figure out how to post pics again I will post it. It says Ii have permission to do but it seems to want a link.

**jobeterob** · 10-18-2010, 01:39 AM

Corroborated

**marv2** · 10-27-2010, 07:44 PM

I have not seen one report saying the movie is off.

**midnightman** · 10-28-2010, 02:57 AM

It may not be "off" but believe me we'll be sitting here three years from now wondering when the movie's gonna be released. Look how many years we've been waiting for Marvin's biopics? THREE IN TOTAL. None of them are even in PRODUCTION yet and one of them was supposedly big budget. How about that?

**marv2** · 10-28-2010, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by midnightman

It may not be "off" but believe me we'll be sitting here three years from now wondering when the movie's gonna be released. Look how many years we've been waiting for Marvin's biopics? THREE IN TOTAL. None of them are even in PRODUCTION yet and one of them was supposedly big budget. How about that?

Really, honestly, I don't know about the Marvin Gaye proposed biopics.

**midnightman** · 10-28-2010, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by marv2

Really, honestly, I don't know about the Marvin Gaye proposed biopics.

All three were all over the news. lol I think of the three, only one of them got the backing of Berry [[the supposed Cameron Crowe-directed bio).

**captainjames** · 10-28-2010, 07:22 AM

Heck, we can't even get a confirmed date on Mary Wilson's New CD release. I am sure this movie will fall right by the side of that as Future releases every year.

**ralpht** · 10-28-2010, 11:10 AM

Phyl and Muscle,
Keep up the offensive posting and you are HISTORY. Don't push me on this.

useyourchucklemuscle · 10-29-2010, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by ralpht

Phyl and Muscle,
Keep up the offensive posting and you are HISTORY. Don't push me on this.

Ralphie [[I feel I can call you Ralphie as we've now communicated and so are half-way to being pals)!
Offensive posting? From Moi? Really, dear boy, I'm English and we NEVER offend!
Push you? I could barely summon the enthusiasm to read your pathetic attempt at intimidation so I scarce believe I could summon it to create physical contact!
And as for wielding your all-powerful threat of Power Of Deletion [[henceforth referred to as POD) all I can say is I have been PODded from much better places than this, my old bucket of sick!
Anyway, you POD away to your heart's content, dear chap, but think on this: How many names is Chuckle already here under or how long will it be before Chuckle rejoins under another name?
Though I really rather doubt I'll bother as the only fun here is exposing Tony Turner and you have wrapped him in a thick blanket of cotton-wool, poor lamb!

Anyhoooooo, bye for now and I feel sure that I shall enjoy many more hours posting at your lovely mausoleum....sorry , I mean Forum.
Lots of platonic love and hugs to you, your new pal, Chuckle

topdiva1 · 10-28-2010, 11:11 AM

This is one of the multiple reasons why we may unfortunately never see this movie made - and excerpt from Florence Ballards legal case - quote from The Lost Supreme - The True Life of Dreamgirl Florence Ballard by Peter Benjaminson;

44. At all times the Defendant Berry Gordy, Jr. was representing to Miss Ballard that she wasn't performing in a professional manner with the Supremes, he and Defendant Diana Ross were secretly planning to oust Miss Ballard from the Supremes and replace her with one Cindy Birdsong.

This is one of many excerpts from the legal case of Florence Ballard against Motown, Diana Ross, Mary Wilson, Berry Gordy, Cindy Birdsong, and Jean Terrell.

This is an amazing book with many insights into Flo's plight - as told to the writer by Flo herself. Anyone who has not looked at this book and read it from cover to cover should.

Berry Gordy and Diana Ross do not want this movie made. Not that it will ever effect thier careers or money - but more because from Flo's point of view it will paint them in a very nasty, horrible way - and show them for what they were at that time.

As Diana Ross once sang from Don't Rain on my Parade - "I get what I want I know how, all that the law will allow", and that she did.

As they all age - Diana, Berry and even Mary do not wish to be remembered for what they did or did not do to and for Florence Ballard.

**marv2** · 10-28-2010, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by topdiva1

This is one of the multiple reasons why we may unfortunately never see this movie made - and excerpt from Florence Ballards legal case - quote from The Lost Supreme - The True Life of Dreamgirl Florence Ballard by Peter Benjaminson;

44. At all times the Defendant Berry Gordy, Jr. was representing to Miss Ballard that she wasn't performing in a professional manner with the Supremes, he and Defendant Diana Ross were secretly planning to oust Miss Ballard from the Supremes and replace her with one Cindy Birdsong.

This is one of many excerpts from the legal case of Florence Ballard against Motown, Diana Ross, Mary Wilson, Berry Gordy, Cindy Birdsong, and Jean Terrell.

This is an amazing book with many insights into Flo's plight - as told to the writer by Flo herself. Anyone who has not looked at this book and read it from cover to cover should.

Berry Gordy and Diana Ross do not want this movie made. Not that it will ever effect thier careers or money - but more because from Flo's point of view it will paint them in a very nasty, horrible way - and show them for what they were at that time.

As Diana Ross once sang from Don't Rain on my Parade - "I get what I want I know how, all that the law will allow", and that she did.

As they all age - Diana, Berry and even Mary do not wish to be remembered for what they did or did not do to and for Florence Ballard.

Heavy stuff, some real heavy stuff.

**midnightman** · 10-28-2010, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by topdiva1

This is one of the multiple reasons why we may unfortunately never see this movie made - and excerpt from Florence Ballards legal case - quote from The Lost Supreme - The True Life of Dreamgirl Florence Ballard by Peter Benjaminson;

44. At all times the Defendant Berry Gordy, Jr. was representing to Miss Ballard that she wasn't performing in a professional manner with the Supremes, he and Defendant Diana Ross were secretly planning to oust Miss Ballard from the Supremes and replace her with one Cindy Birdsong.

This is one of many excerpts from the legal case of Florence Ballard against Motown, Diana Ross, Mary Wilson, Berry Gordy, Cindy Birdsong, and Jean Terrell.

This is an amazing book with many insights into Flo's plight - as told to the writer by Flo herself. Anyone who has not looked at this book and read it from cover to cover should.

Berry Gordy and Diana Ross do not want this movie made. Not that it will ever effect thier careers or money - but more because from Flo's point of view it will paint them in a very nasty, horrible way - and show them for what they were at that time.

As Diana Ross once sang from Don't Rain on my Parade - "I get what I want I know how, all that the law will allow", and that she did.

As they all age - Diana, Berry and even Mary do not wish to be remembered for what they did or did not do to and for Florence Ballard.

You could compare it to the "Dreamgirls" thing when Smokey and Berry got at the film producers for portraying what was supposedly Berry Gordy's character as someone who had ties with the Mafia. The producers on the safe side convinced Berry they weren't talking about him. Smokey still angrily insists that Berry never had Mafia ties. He can say he ain't angry but... lol

Of the three who would supposedly have a problem with Florence's film, I would pick Berry over Diana and Mary.

**captainjames** · 10-28-2010, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by midnightman

You could compare it to the "Dreamgirls" thing when Smokey and Berry got at the film producers for portraying what was supposedly Berry Gordy's character as someone who had ties with the Mafia. The producers on the safe side convinced Berry they weren't talking about him. Smokey still angrily insists that Berry never had Mafia ties. He can say he ain't angry but... lol

Of the three who would supposedly have a problem with Florence's film, I would pick Berry over Diana and Mary.

You are probably right Mr. Gordy was the one who went after them and Diana sort of joked about it when asked and went on.
Honestly, I don't see Mary being upset but I would have been furious if I was her after being portrayed like she was in Dreamgirls. It made her seem like an airhead, cheap with a high sex drive. Her character to me was not flattering at all in Dreamgirls.

However, if you put this story on the screen I would love to know if they are going to write in Tommy Chapman.

**marv2** · 10-28-2010, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by captainjames

You are probably right Mr. Gordy was the one who went after them and Diana sort of joked about it when asked and went on.
Honestly, I don't see Mary being upset but I would have been furious if I was her after being portrayed like she was in Dreamgirls. It made her seem like an airhead, cheap with a high sex drive. Her character to me was not flattering at all in Dreamgirls.

However, if you put this story on the screen I would love to know if they are going to write in Tommy Chapman.

How could they not include Tommy Chapman, he was her husband! I just wonder if they would show how Motown got him to sell Flo's manuscript to them..............

**skooldem1** · 10-28-2010, 01:29 PM

I think Mary has the most to lose with this film.

topdiva1 · 10-28-2010, 06:06 PM

Using THE LOST SUPREME as the main foundation for this film on Flo Ballard spells - very bad press for Mr. Gordy and Miss Ross. If you read the book and the comments, words, and thoughts that come directly from Miss Ballard about Ross and Gordy, you will understand why they may not want this film made ever.

Let's face it - Gordy and Ross have always wanted to be seen as successful superstar and mogul - not the common, evil, vindictive people, Flo Ballard speaks about. So while this movie may not hurt the pockets of superstar and mogul - it will hurt the image. And as Ross moves into her latter years - and Gordy into his twilight - they will surely not want to be shown as the monsters they where to Flo Ballard. Greed, `malicious behavior , and conspiracy , among much more - is not they way Diana Ross and Berry Gordy have ever wished to be remembered.

Will Flo Ballard - The Lost Supreme - through this movie, be able to - reach out and crush - them, from her grave.

**marv2** · 10-28-2010, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by topdiva1

Using THE LOST SUPREME as the main foundation for this film on Flo Ballard spells - very bad press for Mr. Gordy and Miss Ross. If you read the book and the comments, words, and thoughts that come directly from Miss Ballard about Ross and Gordy, you will understand why they may not want this film made ever.

Let's face it - Gordy and Ross have always wanted to be seen as successful superstar and mogul - not the common, evil, vindictive people, Flo Ballard speaks about. So while this movie may not hurt the pockets of superstar and mogul - it will hurt the image. And as Ross moves into her latter years - and Gordy into his twilight - they will surely not want to be shown as the monsters they where to Flo Ballard. Greed, `malicious behavior , and conspiracy , among much more - is not they way Diana Ross and Berry Gordy have ever wished to be remembered.

Will Flo Ballard - The Lost Supreme - through this movie, be able to - reach out and crush - them, from her grave.

Did you know Berry's son, Stefan, the rapper and nephew Skyler got into fight on a plane with Mitt Romney earlier this year ?

topdiva1 · 10-28-2010, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by marv2

Did you know Berry's son, Stefan, the rapper and nephew Skyler got into fight on a plane with Mitt Romney earlier this year ?

How common.

**midnightman** · 10-28-2010, 07:10 PM

Honestly at this point, those who either know better or didn't know better are basically reading Diana the riot act and Berry less so.

I think the real reason behind this fallout with Florence was more complex than even the book and "Unsung" led on. "Unsung" didn't even put 100% blame on Diana and Mary.

It seems that because Motown being the "polished" machine they were, didn't wanna risk its meal ticket causing them money and Florence being rebellious wasn't what they wanted.

**ralpht** · 10-29-2010, 09:49 AM

Okay, Chuckie Boy. You've been banned. Sure, you can come back under another name, but I'l just root you out like the scum that you are, and whack you again. It's easy. Go taint some other forum. We don't want you here.

topdiva1 · 10-29-2010, 12:10 PM

A lot of things that Flo spoke about in The Lost Supreme by Peter Benjaminson is not going to make many happy.

Here's one that the fans may find surprising;

page 164 - "A lot of fans have come to me and said. 'Diane is very nasty. She has a real nasty personality.'" , Flo said.

Miss Ross will be horrified I am sure , to have Flo saying that fans who adored her - also claimed she was very very nasty to them. Her fan base has been with her thought out her career - but most have never met or encountered her behavior, which was said to be wicked, struck up,rude, and at times, very condescending.

Also on that same page Flo Ballard herself says and I quote - Diane ...."has an ego, a big ego, a very big ego". However, she also added later on that same page when referring to Diane - "...she had quite a few problems".

If made from this book - and I am told some input form another book - while it may or may not be a blockbuster - it will certainly be controversial.

**captainjames** · 10-29-2010, 04:13 PM

LOL that's funny because the same ego that folks may talk about that disgust them with Diana is the same ego and drive that makes one a star. That ego and hard work is what made her a star and one of the reasons she was singled out. I have never known Diana to be "rude", at times demanding but not rude. However, all the Supremes could be demanding its just that not all of them knew how to command and get what they wanted.

They were very young as a group and perhaps at times acted like children, however I remember a point in Flo's life where she is trying to mail a package to Diana [[ I believe this was during a time when Diana was pregnant). Tommy asked her why she was doing that and she said something to the fact that she felt like it was her fault for messing things up.

I truly believe within my heart that if Flo was alive today that all three ladies would be be friendly to each other.

**marv2** · 10-29-2010, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by captainjames

LOL that's funny because the same ego that folks may talk about that disgust them with Diana is the same ego and drive that makes one a star. That ego and hard work is what made her a star and one of the reasons she was singled out. I have never known Diana to be "rude", at times demanding but not rude. However, all the Supremes could be demanding its just that not all of them knew how to command and get what they wanted.

They were very young as a group and perhaps at times acted like children, however I remember a point in Flo's life where she is trying to mail a package to Diana [[ I believe this was during a time when Diana was pregnant). Tommy asked her why she was doing that and she said something to the fact that she felt like it was her fault for messing things up.

I truly believe within my heart that if Flo was alive today that all three ladies would be be friendly to each other.

Well, then Florence must have changed her mind because the interviews she did with Peter Benjaminson in 1975 not long before she passed did not characterize Diane and what happened to her that way. There are many people that are successful without having to be assholes. Something to think about. Happy Halloween!

topdiva1 · 10-30-2010, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by marv2

Well, then Florence must have changed her mind because the interviews she did with Peter Benjaminson in 1975 not long before she passed did not characterize Diane and what happened to her that way. There are many people that are successful without having to be assholes. Something to think about. Happy Halloween!

Diana Ross had some talent - no more no less than the others - what she really had was Gordy - and her own cruel ways - it was cruel to have Gordy put Flo out so she could be big - and even worse to allow him to cheat her - Flo hopefully will get to speak on film through Faith Evans - in what hopefully will be a good film

**marv2** · 10-30-2010, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by topdiva1

Diana Ross had some talent - no more no less than the others - what she really had was Gordy - and her own cruel ways - it was cruel to have Gordy put Flo out so she could be big - and even worse to allow him to cheat her - Flo hopefully will get to speak on film through Faith Evans - in what hopefully will be a good film

Since she [[Diane ) was Berry Gordys top lady by then, did she ever once stand up for Flo? Did she try to keep Berry off her case? I don't remember reading that anywhere.