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    A Door Opens: The "new" Marvelettes

    It's reported in various sources that in the mid-1980's [[possibly as early as when all the Temptations reunited and toured, and Mary Wilson considered "reforming" the Supremes with Cindy and Scherrie) that Gladys Horton went on a quest to bring together The Marvelettes. My understaning is that Wanda and Kat were both asked, and both declined [[Wanda possiby because of her "demons"; Kat because she had "retired").

    Gladys then formed a "new" group of Marvelettes, which included [[in various incarnations):

    Jackie Hollerman
    Regina Hollerman
    Jean McClain
    Echo Johnson
    Alicia Ingrim
    Pam Darden

    My question is: for years afterwards, several of these "Marvelettes" claimed to be the "real deal", even going as far as forming their own groups. I speak mainly of Pam Darden.

    Do you think that by Wanda and Kat not agreeing to rejoin the Marvelettes, that they opened the doors for such imposters? I know that there were legal issues for some time with the "originals" not owning the name [[which may have lapsed as early as the 1970's), but if these three women would have banded together, do you suppose there wouldn't have been as many "issues" over the last few decades? I'm not pointing a finger or placing blame on Wanda or Kat; merely wondering if they had said "yes" that there wouldn't be as much mess.

    Regardless, Pam Darden becoming a "faux" Marvelette certainly opened the door for her.....

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    Not an easy one. IMO, the Marvelettes didn't have a strong identability factor. I didn't grow up in the 60s, so I never got to know them when they were a current act. And by the time I started hearing their records [[in the 70s), for many years, I thought Katherine was the lead singer simply because she had the biggest photo on their pink album. I didn't even know that there were imposter groups around until one day they came to my town and I saw a poster. By then I knew who the members were. So I was very surprised that the poster had three ladies who weren't the Marvelettes that I knew.

    I think the same thing happened to groups like the Platters. Even with an original Platter like Herb Reed still performing, there were tons of groups using the name. Ditto for the Coasters and Drifters.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UuiAiGXjtw

    Well, one door may have closed. According to this youtube site, Pam Darden has passed away.

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    Weren't there fake Marvelettes already working by the time Gladys Horton tried to reform the originals? From what Ms. Katherine told us, there were issues between the three originals way back in the day, so these imposter groups were already doing their thing. And there wasn't much the three originals could do to stop them. And is it just me, or did anyone else notice Katherine and Wanda did not regain rights to the name of Marvelettes until after Gladys Horton had passed? Is it one of those oddities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamasu_Jr View Post
    Weren't there fake Marvelettes already working by the time Gladys Horton tried to reform the originals? From what Ms. Katherine told us, there were issues between the three originals way back in the day, so these imposter groups were already doing their thing. And there wasn't much the three originals could do to stop them. And is it just me, or did anyone else notice Katherine and Wanda did not regain rights to the name of Marvelettes until after Gladys Horton had passed? Is it one of those oddities?
    I think it is a bit more than ironic........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamasu_Jr View Post
    And is it just me, or did anyone else notice Katherine and Wanda did not regain rights to the name of Marvelettes until after Gladys Horton had passed? Is it one of those oddities?
    Interestingly enough, it was LARRY MARSHAK that FILED A COMPLAINT alleging false designation of origin in violation of the Lanham Act, seeking injunctive and declaratory relief as well as damages. Horton and Shaffner filed their answer and counterclaims, alleging false designation of origin, trademark dilution and tarnishement, common law trademark infringement, and deceptive acts and practices in violation of New York General Business Law. On May 11, 2012, the U.S. District Court granted Shaffner and Horton’s summary judgment on Marshak’s claim.

    Unfortunately, the judgement was granted after Gladys' death.

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    An interesting read:

    As many fans of Motown music might know, The Marvelettes were among the most significant all-girl groups of Motown Records in the early to mid-1960s. Their single “Please Mr. Postman” reached the number-one position on the Billboard Hot 100 pop singles chart, was the first number-one singles recorded by an all-female vocal group, and the first by a Motown recording act. In the 1970s, promoter Larry Marshak began using the mark “The Marvelettes” for groups staging live performances under his production and management, of which no group included any members of the original Marvelettes. Marshak’s Marvelettes perform songs originally recorded by Motown’s Marvelettes and have always consisted of three female members, whose ages tended to correspond with the contemporary ages of the original members of The Marvelettes. At no time prior to or during the show is the audience informed that the performers are not the original members of the Marvelettes group which recorded for Motown. Marshak applied for, and received the trademark for “The Marvelettes” in 1976. The registration for this trademark lapsed in 2008 at which time Katherine Shaffner and Gladys Horton, founding members of the Motown group, filed a joint application with the PTO to register the mark “The Marvelettes.” During the time between 1976 and 2008, Gladys Horton had attempted to return to the stage and sought to use the trademark to promote her appearances, but was threatened with litigation by Marshak if she were to use the name “Marvelettes” in association with her performances.

    In early 2011, Marshak filed a complaint alleging false designation of origin in violation of the Lanham Act, seeking injunctive and declaratory relief as well as damages. Horton and Shaffner filed their answer and counterclaims, alleging false designation of origin, trademark dilution and tarnishement, common law trademark infringement, and deceptive acts and practices in violation of New York General Business Law. On May 11, 2012, the U.S. District Court granted Shaffner and Horton’s summary judgment on Marshak’s claim.

    Although Marshak had filed the original trademark in 1976, basic principles of consumer protection embedded in the trademark laws show that Marshak cannot own the rights to “The Marvelettes” if Motown [[and/or original members of Marvelettes) continues to own the rights in connection with marketing recordings. This is because “for inherently distinctive marks, ownership is governed by priority of use. For such marks, the first to use a designation as a mark in the sale of goods or services is the ‘owner’ and the ‘senior user.’” Common law holds that “[t]rademark rights develop when goods bearing the mark are placed in the market and followed by continuous commercial utilization.” Thus, Motown is the ‘senior’ user as it was the first to use the mark for commercial purposes, and because Marshak quite clearly trades upon the consumer goodwill associated with the original group’s use of the mark, he cannot assume to have a distinct right to the trademark. In fact, the court’s opinion writes that Marshak’s presentation actually encourages the audience members to believe that they are paying to see the original group rather than a tribute band, stating “The danger of consumer confusion and deception is manifest, and indeed, has almost certainly been realized.”

    In conclusion, the Court held that Marshak cannot establish ownership rights in the mark because a senior user [[Motown) already owned the mark prior to Marshak’s first use of the mark. Motown did not need to formally register a trademark to own have rights to the name, as they used it for commercial purposes and it remains used by its legal owner UMG [[Motown’s successor). Shaffner and Horton’s estate continue to receive royalties for both sales of recordings and radio plays. Because both Mashrak and UMG’s use of the mark rely on the same source of consumer goodwill [[The Marvelettes’ original recordings and performances during the 1960s), Mashrak had no legitimate claim to the Marvelette trademark.

    Although the Court did not rule on issues of damages, it seems that Motown and/ or the representatives of Horton and Shaffner may have substantial claims for damages against Mashrak for his wrongful use of the trademark in association with the live performances he presented of “Marvelettes”. It is surprising, to say the least, that Motown and UMG [[Motown’s successors) did not contest Mashrak’s use of the name in connection with his presentation of “Marvalette” live performances. In any event, this decision clearly vindicates the rights of Motown [[and its successor UMG), Horton and Schaffner. It is an important reaffirmation of the fact that common law trademark rights may trump registered trademarks where it can be shown that the owner of the common law trademark was the senior user and continued to use the trademark after registration of the trademark by the junior user. It is also an important decision, because it reaffirms that the standard for continued use of a trademark [[and avoidance of abandonment) is relatively low—almost any legitimate ongoing use will avoid abandonment—such as the receipt of royalties by Horton and Shaffner.

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    And one more:

    Part I

    "The Marvelettes" name has joined "The Platters," "The Kingsmen," "Vito and the Salutations" and names of other popular musical groups in which ownership rights have been challeneged and litigated. Each of those disputes answered a question that often is deferred or ignored by members of newly-formed groups: Who owns and controls the name of the group?

    Cross motions for summary judgment in the "Marvelettes" case were decided last month in the Southern District of New York.[1] The two defendants were an original group member, Katherine Schaffner, and the estate of another, Gladys Horton; both had recorded for Motown and performed in live concerts with the group beginning in the early 1960s. Following a succession of personnel changes, the group disbanded in 1969. The plaintiff was a producer-manager, Larry Marshak, who had booked the group for performances in the late 1960s when he was an editor at Rock Magazine.

    Marshak claimed superior common law rights in the name, which he began using on his own in the 1970s with as many as three groups performing under the name at the same time [[albeit spelling the group name with a double "l"). He did not tell audiences that his performers, who were women old enough to be contemporaries of Schaffner and Horton, were not members of the group that recorded for Motown in the 1960s. For reasons we will discuss below, his motion failed and the cross motion of Schaffner and the Estate of Horton succeeded.

    In addition to group members battling relative latecomers over name ownership, group members have had disputes with other group members and with their founding managers. We will review illustrative cases, some of which were cited in the "Marvellettes" decision, that involved the group names mentioned above. In some instances, but not always, such disputes can be avoided by written agreements addressing name ownership. Several ways of approaching those agreements will be discussed briefly here as well.

    The "Marvelettes" Case

    A group member and a music label executive are both credited for the creation of the name, "The Marvelettes." The original group -- five high school girls from Inkster Michigan that included Katherine Schaffner and Gladys Horton -- called themselves the "Can't Sing Yets." After one member of the group, Georgia Dobbins, wrote "Please Mr. Postman," Motown offered them a recording contract, but not with that name. According to Ms. Schaffner, Ms. Dobbins then came up with "The Marvels," which Motown executive Barry Gordy changed to "The Marvelettes."

    The original group began substituting members even before its Motown career was launched when Ms. Dobbins's father refused to sign the label's contract and she was replaced. During the 1960s, when the group recorded for Motown and performed live, there were other personnel changes. Three of the first five who signed with Motown departed, including Ms. Horton; and with several substitutions along the way, the group performed during this period with two to five members. In its "final iteration," before disbanding in 1969, the group had three members, still including Katherine Schaffner, plus the member who replaced Georgia Dobbins, and one who replaced Gladys Horton.

    The court considered the contracts with Motown, signed in 1961 by Ms. Schaffner and Ms. Horton, which identified "The Marvelettes" as the group's collective name and authorized the label to "sell and deal" records under that name and any other "trademarks, or trade-names or labels" designated by Motown. Those contracts had terms of four years; "follow-up agreements" with substantially similar language were signed in 1965. Music recorded by "The Marvelettes" continues to be sold commercially and receive radio play to this day, and original members receive royalty payments from Motown's successor, UMG.

    According to Marshak, Motown's president told him in the early 1970s that the original group no longer was recording or performing, and Marshak began using the name "The Marvellettes" [[spelled with double "l") in the 70s for live performances under his management. He registered the service mark "The Marvellettes" with the United States Patent and Trademark Office in 1978, listing himself as owner. In 2008, that registration lapsed but Marshak's use of the name did not. At the time of the cross-motions, one group of Marshak's was performing Motown songs, including those of the original "Marvelettes," in Las Vegas.

    Because Marshak staked his claim of ownership on common law trademark rights, the court held that his success depended upon a showing that he acquired those rights through continuous use since the 1970s and that the "senior user" abandoned rights in the mark through non-use and a lack of intent to resume use in the reasonably foreseeable future [[citing 15 U.S.C. Sec. 1127). The court held, however, that "[r]ights in a mark signifying a singing group are not abandoned by the owner upon the group's disbandment, so long as the owner continues to receive royalties from the sale of the group's previously recorded material." Accordingly, "Marshak cannot establish ownership rights in the mark because a senior user owned those rights prior to Marshak's first use … and that senior user has not abandoned the mark."

    Marshak's presentation of live "Marvellettes" performances without telling audiences that the original group members were not onstage, did not help his cause. Such use of the mark "encourages potential audience members to believe that they are paying to see the original group whose recordings continue to be sold and receive radio play, rather than a tribute band. The danger of consumer confusion and deception is manifest, and indeed, has almost certainly been realized in this case." [2]

    Group Members v. Manager

    Group members don't necessarily prevail in disputes with their former managers, especially if the latter are responsible for the group's formation and continuity.

    For example, in Rick v. Buchansky,[3] a Southern District of New York decision from 1985, the plaintiff, David Rick, held the registered service mark for "Vito and the Salutations," having created the name and managed the musical group since it was formed in 1961. The group came together after Rick discovered "four young men on a street corner in Brooklyn, singing in the popular 'doo-wop' style of the time." He invited them to audition in Manhattan and the two who took him up on it were joined by two additional singers to form the original group. Their hits included "Gloria" and "Unchained Melody," but the "British invasion" soon put an end to the "doo-wop" era and the group had no commercially successful record after 1963. The plaintiff continued to book engagements for the group, however, into the 1970s.

    During that period, the group "experienced frequent turnovers": approximately 22 different persons "performed in the group at one time or another." The court found that Rick acted not only as an agent, but also "much like the producer of a theater company or owner of a sports team." He was responsible for personnel decisions, paid "many if not most" of the group's expenses, and "oversaw the style and substance of the group's 'act.'" He "provided continuity to the group" despite personnel changes, and was the "only individual who has used the mark continuously since he first conceived of the name."

    Defendants in the case who had performed in the group had a falling out with Rick. They signed with other management and formed a second musical group that performed under the same name, crowding out Rick's reconstituted group from bookings. The litigation followed.

    In holding that Rick was entitled to claim ownership of the mark through prior and continuous use of the mark in commerce, even though he was not a group member and acted behind the scenes, the court rejected an assortment of arguments by the defendants: [[1) that Rick was their employee rather than their employer; [[2) that Rick was obligated to obtain a formal assignment from an early lead singer with the given name Vito, who never made independent commercial use of that name [[he joined the renegade group and was a defendant in the action); [[3) that the mark "Vito and the Salutations" had become inextricably linked in the public's eye with the personal skill or reputation of the eponymous Vito, even though other singers performed the role of "Vito" both during his tenure with the group and after his departure in 1974; [[4) that Rick's service mark registration was invalid; [[5) that Rick abandoned whatever rights he acquired by "substantially changing the nature and quality of the entertainment services identified with the mark" by permitting a female performer and a black performer to sing with the group [[which began with white males); [[6) laches and unclean hands.

    The court concluded that Rick was entitled to a permanent injunction restraining the defendants from continuing to use the mark.

    Group Members v. Other Members

    Battles over group names also have been fought when group members leave a group and presume to take the name with them. The prevailing rule in disputes among members of musical groups is that former members have no right to use group names for a new group of their own.

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    This principle was endorsed, for example, in 1999 in a seminal Ninth Circuit decision, Robi v. Reed [4] involving the name, "The Platters." Defendant Herb Reed founded the group in 1953, acted as the group's manager, and performed as one of the group's four original singers. In 1954, three of those other singers were replaced -- one by Paul Robi -- and another new member was added. Reed remained.

    Robi "severed his relationship with the group" in 1965 when he was arrested and convicted of felony narcotics possession charges. He did not return after his release from prison, but he claimed the right to use the "Platters" name on his own and in 1988, not long before his death, assigned that right to his wife, plaintiff Martha Robi. She then managed, booked and presented a singing group called "The Platters," which lacked any of the original members. Hoping to establish her exclusive rights to the name, she sued Herb Reed and others in the late 90s. The district court, however, held that Reed had the right to use the mark to the exclusion of Robi and the Ninth Circuit affirmed.

    The appellate court based its decision principally on the fact that Reed "has been continuously associated with The Platters since 1953" – both before Robi joined the group and after he left. Although all group members [[including Robi and Reed) at one time owned the mark collectively, Reed asserted his individual claim to the name "at least in the early 1980s," several years before Martha Robi began using it and long after Paul Robi had left the group. As between Reed and the Robis, Reed "is the person who has maintained continuity with the group and has been in a position to control the quality of its services." He also was "the only member who has continuously performed with the group." When Robi left the group "he took no rights to the service mark with him," and therefore had nothing to assign to his wife. As the only surviving member of the original five singers who continuously performed with the group, Reed retained the right to use the service mark to the exclusion of Robi. The court also noted that allowing Martha Robi to organize a rival group under the same name would lead to confusion among reasonable consumers, and preventing her from doing so was consistent with the basic purposes of trademark law and the Lanham Act.

    Other decisions have reached like results, such as a 1983 Southern District decision[5] involving the group name "The Kingsmen." Jack Ely, the performer who sang the lead vocal for the group's hit "Louie, Louie," was one of the original members when the group was formed in 1962. Ely left the group in 1964 – before "Louie, Louie" became popular and other group members began their "successful musical career." The group disbanded in 1967. Nine years later, Ely accepted a proposal to make a new recording of "Louie, Louie" and it was marketed as a "re-recording" by the original "Kingsmen," even though none of the other former "Kingsmen" members participated. The five members who comprised "The Kingsmen" during the group's three-year heyday, and continued to receive royalties through the 1980s, obtained a preliminary injunction. The court held that "[t]hese plaintiffs have no more abandoned their right to protect the name of Kingsmen than have The Beatles, The Supremes or any other group that has disbanded and ceased performing and recording, but continues to collect royalties from the sale of previously recorded material." The defendants were restrained from selling their album with any representation that the recording of "Louie, Louie" was performed by the original "Kingsmen."

    Agreements Help

    An agreement covering group name ownership among the originators of "The Marvelettes" would not have avoided a dispute with a "stranger" like Marshak. But such an agreement made by group members and any others involved in a group's creation, can avoid or mitigate disputes among themselves.

    Rather than deal with the limited duration of partnerships, creating a corporation or limited liability company that will own the name [[including service mark registrations) and control its use, offers evident advantages. The written agreement also should provide that a member who leaves the group assigns all rights in the name to those who remain. If a group splits apart entirely, the agreement could give ownership to an individual, or provide that no one use the name until a majority of those who were members when the group broke up agree to it. Requiring that every former member must agree risks letting a single member keep the group name in limbo indefinitely – perhaps to a point of abandonment.

    Alternatively, if there is one group member, or a producer or a promoter/manager, who claims unchallenged ownership of the group name from the outset -- e.g., because he, she or it created the group and remains its creative engine – an agreement with the others should reflect that they concur.

    Conclusion

    These cases serve as reminders that the value of a group name can endure for decades, even when original members have gone separate ways. Attorneys and managers should advise their clients to make a concerted effort to determine group name rights at the earliest time possible with the goal of entering into a written agreement.

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    It's a lot of reading, I know, but it's a very interesting case. Especially reading about how the widow of a non-Original Platter tried to sue an original Platter for usage of the name.

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    At least Gladys had the courtesy to ask the original Marvelettes before she got other people.
    I think what Marshak has done is a crime! Thank you for this information. I didnt know the Kingsmen went through something similar. What I dont like is when other groups dont want to perform and one member goes out and as soon as they see he or she making money they slap injunctions on them. If they dont want to perform let the other one go out there and make some money.

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    How could Marshak file a clain against Horton and Schaffner if they wernt doing any thing with the name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    At least Gladys had the courtesy to ask the original Marvelettes before she got other people.
    I think what Marshak has done is a crime! Thank you for this information. I didnt know the Kingsmen went through something similar. What I dont like is when other groups dont want to perform and one member goes out and as soon as they see he or she making money they slap injunctions on them. If they dont want to perform let the other one go out there and make some money.

    I agree with you Stephanie about one group member who no longer wants to perform or can't trying or stop another group member from performing with other people. I'm thinking of Dennis Edwards, who I feel has every right to perform the songs he led with the Temptations. But he's been sued many times. It is all about money. I have been told some singers wouldn't mind if another group member - who wants to continue performing under the banner of " formerly of so and so" would ask permission and break the "retired," original group member off a little change. If I were Katherine and Wanda, that's what I would do. If these fake Marvelettes want to continue making a living and if they are good, then make them pay to use the name and sit back and wait for the postman or moneygram.

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    At this point, I can’t imagine there’s a lot of money to be made by concert promoters off the Marvelettes name regardless of who owns it and who’s in the group. But glad that Katherine Schaffner and the Horton estate seemed to have won this battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    At least Gladys had the courtesy to ask the original Marvelettes before she got other people.
    I think what Marshak has done is a crime! Thank you for this information. I didnt know the Kingsmen went through something similar. What I dont like is when other groups dont want to perform and one member goes out and as soon as they see he or she making money they slap injunctions on them. If they dont want to perform let the other one go out there and make some money.
    Stephanie, that is exactly what happened with the group Klymaxx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smark21 View Post
    At this point, I can’t imagine there’s a lot of money to be made by concert promoters off the Marvelettes name regardless of who owns it and who’s in the group. But glad that Katherine Schaffner and the Horton estate seemed to have won this battle.

    You may be right. But a little money is better than nothing. A few dollars could help out at BINGO or the casino or buy you and yours a good meal a few times a month. And what's even better is you didn't have to do anything for it. Someone else did the work for you.

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