funny thing, at the last supremes awards ceremony [ a few years back] BG asked Jean why she left and i think her response was "r u kidding?"
lol - david that's a good one. when was this?
lol!! Good one!!
I wonder if Cindy and Mary got to spend any time with Syreeta back in those days of constant touring to know or form the opinion they wouldn't get along or work well with her since Cindy mentioned something to that effect in the TITS box liner notes....
i cant remember exactly but it was after RTL and the Supremes recieved an award and most of the ladies were there including Mary, Jean , Cindy ,Scherrie. cant remember exactly but , Dianas daughter was there and accepted on behalf of her. i think this was after diana had been pulled over for a DUI , [just for time frame] . BG was there presenting the award? ,....and Jean and BG seemd to be catching up with each other. now that you ask, i am not sure how to take it. but i thought she meant you know why i quit.?
i think that BG felt Jean was too soulful for the Supremes and Syreeta was more pop sounding and he thought the Supremes should remain in the pop genre ? but it seems that Mary amd Cindy had felt that they had rehearsed with Jean for months and most of the Right On lp was completed by this point. why change the group now ,.....and Cindy had stated she was not found of Syreeta at the time but they became good friends anyway.
jean seems to be the type to have included "i got fired" in her dvd release a few years ago "if" it went down that way so many years ago. she tells why she left and it was not "that'.
I think had motown gordy promoted t 70s supremes during t terrell yrs they would have had bigger hits. Up the ladder should have been a top 5 hit stoned love should have easily went to no 1, and a follow up to stoned love should not have taken so long. The album/single should been named stone love and not mislabeled. Everybodys got t right to love was a poor followup t right on album had two or 3 potential hits singles one them was wait a minute before u leave itv explodes and mary and cindy could have easily been over dubbed into t mix f a single release.
ROFL, confided in Miss Wilson how? By telling her she couldn't sing?
Hey Marv! All that matters is that they are friends today.
Maths Reeves and Vandellas., jean Terrell, Florence Ballard all sued Motown.
Michael Jackson sued Motown and Berry loved him till the day he died:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...otown-20030512
HDH sued Motown:
http://variety.com/2001/biz/news/gor...ts-1117797798/
Didn't Berry write that Mary was the heart and soul of the Supremes and that she was a good singer in his autobiography and "you finally leaned how to sing" when she took over the lead when Diana stopped singing on Motown 25 and Mary was no longer a background singer?!!
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And Mary is superb singing lead on the Tears. Can you imagine if they all had leads in their shows!! They probably would have been even bigger ..Mary on Where did Our Love Go, Diana on Baby Love and Flo on Come see about me!![[ who got a standing ovation, the one time she sang that solo!)
Marv is always trying to elevate Mary to sainthood. Truth is Berry and Mary have had a love/hate relationship from the start. He nearly fired her in her first year for wrecking his car. He told her early on that she couldn't sing. Her role was merely pretty scenery behind the woman he loved, Diana Ross. After Ross left, Gordy kept Mary's Supremes going for a couple years so as not to have a negative impact on Ross's solo career. After 1973 he was through with her. She constantly badmouthed Gordy to the press in the 70s, by Mary's own admission he gave her a solo contract only to get her to drop her lawsuits and by 1990 had starved Mary into turning over her portion of ownership of the name Supremes to him. Gordy has had little to do with Mary over the years since. Confidante? Hardly
I think it would be safe to say that Berry Gordy didn't have much to do with any of the acts once Diana Ross left the Supremes, except for, perhaps, the Jackson 5. He spent his time elevating her career to the level he knew it could be and also getting his film division off the ground. His main acts were now in someone else's hands, so, in essense, you could say he washed his hands of 95% of them.
Was Martha going on too long or was Mary just playing around?
Does degenerating any Supreme qualify for primier membership in SDF? If so, we have several winners here.
Ralph, I beg you to delete this one. Just a mess.
Ralph,
Kindly delete this thread.
Thanxal
Martha seems out of breath a lot. Hope she's ok. Maybe excitement
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