Diana Ross & the Supremes / 50th Anniversary: The Complete Singles 1961-1969,

[honest man]

hello tried to paste cover from amazon,no luck,but it;s there cheers.

[longtimefan]

There must be something unique about the packaging, but I cannot imagine what it could be. The trend has been toward more minimal packaging, i.e., digipacs, smaller-sized box sets, jewel cases that hold more than one CD, etc. I can undestand becasue that helps keep prices of production and shipping down.

[aarondillon2011@gmail.com]

Here is the link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...819725&sr=1-25

[psychedelic jacques]

4. Why is "The Way You Do the Things You Do" included as a Supremes single?


- it's with the Temptations - it was the B side to I'll Try Something New.

[carlo]

Thanks for the link. The cover looks ok, but not fantastic. Why is Mary's lipstick so purple? That pic looks like it was touched up too much by the art department. It looks like she just finished drinking some Welches' Grape Juice.

[carlo]

The original photo looks much better to me...with no Welches' Grape Juice...

[carlo]

...But I guess I should be thankful that everyone's heads are shown in full on the cover.

[rovereab]

...But I guess I should be thankful that everyone's heads are shown in full on the cover.

Well in the UK we only got the lips on this album :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_Gold...remes_album%29

Eamonn

[carlo]

Well in the UK we only got the lips on this album :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_Gold...remes_album%29

Eamonn

lol!!! Hehehehehehe

[marv2]

lol!!! Hehehehehehe

I remember that album from 1977. They made a very big deal about it.

[ladonna]

Yes; please stay positive.

[johnjeb]

Per Amazon it is 3-disc box-set to be released October 24:

Diana Ross & the Supremes - 50th Anniversary: The Complete Singles 1961-1969 is housed in packaging similar to the acclaimed series The Complete Motown Singles, accompanied by a booklet filled with detailed information about each single, reproductions of spectacular-looking picture sleeves from around the world, and classic and rare photos of the world's greatest female group of all time.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846

[Jimi LaLumia]

everything is coming out at once because it's the holiday season, when people are most likely to splurge on themselves and others...I know that I will!..one of everything..

[longtimefan]

Yes, the "Reflections" LP was recorded with Flo, but she was not pictured nor did she perform with that billing. In actuality, they re-designed the cover art work, eliminating her pictures and inserting Cindy's pictures.

That being said, I was merely trying to indicate -- in a positive way -- that although it is a technicality, I would personally love to see this 50th anniversary effort be titled "The Supremes." As part of their legacy, this is an important release. It was just my "thought" -- not a complaint.

[Jimi LaLumia]

the billing lets everyone knows that these are the Ross-led hits[[and the everyday consumer knows the name Diana Ross just as powerfully as they know The Supremes,if not more so,so there's a 'sales' plus there);
with all the 70's re issues recently , "The Supremes" could mean a lot of things; The Beatles was always The Beatles, but The Supremes...different story[[and I love all versions, but I'm just saying)

[danman869]

Looking at that pic of The Temptations' new 50th Anniversary CD set, I'd say they got "an artsy makeover," too. Those suits are awfully blue [[as though they'd been tinted in a computer program) and the skin tone on all the guys is identical. The Supremes and their anachronistic plum-colored lipstick aren't the only ones who were "re-imagined" for the cover of their 50th Anniversary set!

Knowing Andy and his track record with the Motown catalog, I'm 99.9% certain that the upcoming expanded edition of "More Hits" will be credited to "The Supremes" and not "DRATS." If the deluxe editions of "Meet The Supremes" and "Where Did Our Love Go" were [[properly) credited as originally released, so will this set. Let's hang in there until November! ;-)

[Bokiluis]

Actually the photo on the "50th", hard to believe I am saying 50 when it still sometimes feels like yesterday, is what got my attention first. It seemed colorized but more vivid. I like it. By the time they got to their first Greatest Hits, weren't they already called Diana Ross and The Supremes? My main issue is once Jean led the group, I saw them as a completely different group that I couldn't associate with the original line-up.

[kenneth]

Actually the photo on the "50th", hard to believe I am saying 50 when it still sometimes feels like yesterday, is what got my attention first. It seemed colorized but more vivid. I like it. By the time they got to their first Greatest Hits, weren't they already called Diana Ross and The Supremes? My main issue is once Jean led the group, I saw them as a completely different group that I couldn't associate with the original line-up.

Yes, the original double LP "Greatest Hits," which ended up being called later "Greatest Hits Vols. 1 and 2" was the first LP where they were referred to as Diana Ross and the Supremes. This was the LP which included the portraits of Diane, Flo and Mary.

The first single where they were referred to as DRATS was "Reflections," which I think came out out shortly after the double LP greatest hits package.

[longtimefan]

A beautiful reply, Bokiluis. Anyone who enjoys a particular hobby, whether knitting, collecting stamps, ice skating, music, etc., uses that interest to occupy time. Hobbies/interests allow us the opportunity to mentally "step away" from life's daily routines. Hence, we have different interests and depths of interest/involvement, too. I appreciate this foum and value its members.

[smark21]

I think the reason why some Supremes fans get a little upset when songs like Up the Ladder and Stoned Love are left off a Supremes greatest hits set is because they love the 70's Supremes and a greatest hits album is usually entree for new fans to discover a group and these die hard fans want potential fans to be get a sample of the 70's Supremes and appreciate them as well and know that the group carried on without Diana Ross and put out some good recordings.

[marybrewster]

One question that comes to mind when talking about including 70's Supremes with 60's Supremes:

I wonder why "He's My Man" was left off the Supremes #1's. "Reflections" which was a [[I believe) regional #1 is there and "Stoned Love" which was an R & B #1 was included.....didn't "HMM" reach #1 on the dance charts? Or is that stretching it?

[carlo]

One question that comes to mind when talking about including 70's Supremes with 60's Supremes:

I wonder why "He's My Man" was left off the Supremes #1's. "Reflections" which was a [[I believe) regional #1 is there and "Stoned Love" which was an R & B #1 was included.....didn't "HMM" reach #1 on the dance charts? Or is that stretching it?

Yes, "He's My Man" was a # 1 on the Dance Charts. If you look at the booklet included with the # 1's, it lists other number one hits by The Supremes and Diana Ross as a solo artist that were not included on the set. I think they purposely included the most popular and commercial songs for the sake of appealing to the general music buying market. They're the ones who prefer the usual hits, versus some of the other number one hits like "He's My Man" and "All of You" by Diana and Julio [[I think it was # 1 on the A.C. charts? Jobeterob would know! Hehehe ).

[jobeterob]

Good replies Longtimefan and Smark.

Carlo is pretty much right. While it is an accomplishment that songs like He's My Man and Take Me Higher reached #1 on the Dance Charts and Motown uses that to pump up Ross and/or the Supremes and their accomplishments, the truth is #1 Dance doesn't matter much. [[If I had a #1 Dance Hit, you'd never hear the end of it though!)

He's My Man hit #69 or so Pop and Take Me Higher hit about #102. Neither single sold much.

Reflections was lodged behind the #1 song of the year in 1967 - Ode to Billie Joe - which was #1 for 6 weeks. And I believe Reflections stayed at #2 for a month and may have hit #1 in Cashbox. It also went on to become the theme song for that TV show.......China Beach, was it? Reflections had a cultural impact; He's My Man was an effort to stay current that was barely noticed.

But to stick He's My Man or Take Me Higher on a one disc CD with all the #1 Pop songs would take the CD down a notch. And in reality, and Andy will confirm this..........those Icon CDS and The #'1s and the Greatest Hits CDS sell and sell and sell and sell..........and you can't give away recent releases by the FLO's etc. Even Extended Editions of Meet the Supremes are a harder sell.

These words from LongtimeFan, I really enjoyed them:

A beautiful reply, Bokiluis. Anyone who enjoys a particular hobby, whether knitting, collecting stamps, ice skating, music, etc., uses that interest to occupy time. Hobbies/interests allow us the opportunity to mentally "step away" from life's daily routines. Hence, we have different interests and depths of interest/involvement, too. I appreciate this foum and value its members.

And it is rude and unkind to make fun of people who enjoy these hobbies, be they Supremes, knitting, Diana Ross, weight lifting, fitness, FLOS, porn flicks or whatever.

[soulster]

The company is also issuing one for The Temptations. I just hope this continues for Stevie Wonder and Jackson 5.

The digital release will come before the CD release.

[uptight]

Ampersand or "and," I don't care, either. I don't even mind the shorthand version "DRATS." That's the easiest to type, but I remember a few fans getting all tense about it a few years ago. And now we're all afraid to use "DRATS." I bet there are all kinds of master tapes and log entries with that code in the vault.

[soulster]

Ampersand or "and," I don't care, either. I don't even mind the shorthand version "DRATS." That's the easiest to type, but I remember a few fans getting all tense about it a few years ago. And now we're all afraid to use "DRATS." I bet there are all kinds of master tapes and log entries with that code in the vault.

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There! let's see somebody get pissed about that!

[ladonna]

For real??? People got upset over seeing DRATS??? That's the kind of obsessive fanatical behavior I talk about! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS! DRATS!

There! let's see somebody get pissed about that!

They already have, dear; and Ralph has been notified. LOLOLOLOL!!

[gordy_hunk]

Whatever Universal do will never get the full support of everyone. This is clearly a financial move, and one which will almost certainly generate a fair profit. Sure, many of us on here won't buy it, but it's not aimed at us specifically. By creating a good profit, Universal [[and therefore people such as HW) may be given more freedom to release those albums which are hard to find, or less likely to be a commercial success.

I have no objection to this [[even if it does contain my least favourite Motown record of all time). It will sell. that's all that matters.

[ejluther]

I have no objection to this [[even if it does contain my least favourite Motown record of all time). It will sell. that's all that matters.

What record is that? If you've already mentioned it in a previous post on this thread I've missed it. Just curious...

The first single where they were referred to as DRATS was "Reflections," which I
think came out out shortly after the double LP greatest hits
package.

"Reflections" was originally slated to be included on GREATEST HITS and, in fact, is included on the UK single-LP version of GREATEST HITS:
http://www.discogs.com/Diana-Ross-An...elease/1857420
I'm not entirely clear why "Reflections" was ultimately not included on the US version of GREATEST HITS but maybe "The Happening" was considered the "new" song? After all, it had not made an appearance on a proper Supremes LP yet...

[kenneth]

I'm not entirely clear why "Reflections" was ultimately not included on the US version of GREATEST HITS but maybe "The Happening" was considered the "new" song? After all, it had not made an appearance on a proper Supremes LP yet...

Well...I can think of 2 reasons. One possible reason and one cynical [[and more likely) reason. The first is that "Reflections" was the first single to go by DRATS and which introduced Cindy Birdsong to the public, so it allowed the Greatest Hits to be the "old" group. The second and more likely reason is that they knew they'd have a "Reflections" LP to sell and didn't want sales of "Greatest Hits" to cannibalize the forthcoming product.

[ejluther]

Well...I can think of 2 reasons. One possible reason and one cynical [[and more likely) reason. The first is that "Reflections" was the first single to go by DRATS and which introduced Cindy Birdsong to the public, so it allowed the Greatest Hits to be the "old" group. The second and more likely reason is that they knew they'd have a "Reflections" LP to sell and didn't want sales of "Greatest Hits" to cannibalize the forthcoming product.

Good points. In my own mind I often think of "Reflections" as the last single with Flo since it was slated to be on GREATEST HITS at one time and the song itself makes for a poignant break in the group's history [["Reflections of the way life used to be..."). On that topic, I've read conflicting reports about whether or not Flo is singing on "Reflections" [[and "Forever Came Today", too, for that matter) - I've read that the backgrounds are both Flo and Mary, Cindy and Mary, just the Andantes and no Mary/Flo/Cindy, etc. - any way to know for sure?

[kenneth]

Good points. In my own mind I often think of "Reflections" as the last single with Flo since it was slated to be on GREATEST HITS at one time and the song itself makes for a poignant break in the group's history [["Reflections of the way life used to be..."). On that topic, I've read conflicting reports about whether or not Flo is singing on "Reflections" [[and "Forever Came Today", too, for that matter) - I've read that the backgrounds are both Flo and Mary, Cindy and Mary, just the Andantes and no Mary/Flo/Cindy, etc. - any way to know for sure?

Does that mean Flo sang on "Reflections?" It certainly wasn't promoted as such, but that doesn't mean anything.

The Hip-O Singles sets generally say who is on the track, although they don't usually go into any detail as to the "anonymous" background singers. I checked Vol. 9 [[1969) and it does say "Although Florence Ballard took part in the sessions for these two tracks [[Reflections/Going Down for the 3rd Time), by the time the record was released she had been let go."

I always wondered why my copy of the LP "Reflections" had a paste-over on the back because I could see through that the text was the same, then I read later that there were some photos of Flo intermixed with those of Cindy with the group. Oddly, I've never seen a photo of the original back cover before it was pasted over. It would be interesting.

And, stranger still, TCMS Vol. 9 says that "In and Out of Love" was Flo's last session with the group but the background vocals were later overdubbed - by the Andantes! The notes seem to conclude that it was more due to the touring schedule of the girls, who were unavailable at the time to do the re-do of the backgrounds.

I doubt they ever thought 40 years later we'd be picking through this minutiae!

[Jimi LaLumia]

AMEN!..bring on "The Copa"...

[stephanie]

Hey I am obsessive or I woul not be here. Imagine what it was like as a child picking up the needle and playing Make Someone Happy on the Supremes Live at the Copa 20 times. Experience listening to Martha and the Vandellas live and running to books and buying them and reading them and your friends dont understand. Picture at the age of 17 being in your grandmothers basement and finding It Doesnt Matter how I say it by Florence Ballard and questioning the whole family as to who bought this single and when and did you hear it on the radio. I found out it was my brother who bought it. Yes if you think that is bad talk to Xtown or go to England they are beyond obsessive. Imagine a grown man [[true story) sitting in the car with the Velvelettes and teaching them their vocal parts! Its ok obsess on. NO offense to the poster its just they way we are.

[Jimi LaLumia]

by the way,"Up The Ladder.." is on the Ed Sullivan DVD because the DVD is The Supremes on Ed Sullivan, and while it's not all the group's appearances, the DVD starts with the very first appearance "Come See About Me' and ends with the very last appearance, "Up The Ladder.."[[yes,that WAS by The Supremes)..by the time "Stoned Love" hit, Sullivan was no longer on the air,in fact I think the show was gone before "Everybody's Got The Right To Love"; Supremes singles were always helped/hyped nationally by a Sullivan appearance, and "Everybody's Got.." was the first single by the group to be denied that exposure..
singles that didn't get the Sullivan treatment like "The Composer" and "Somethings You Never Get Used To", suffered accordingly..for kids/fans like me, Sullivan is how we found out that there was a new Supremes single in the first place

[marv2]

by the way,"Up The Ladder.." is on the Ed Sullivan DVD because the DVD is The Supremes on Ed Sullivan, and while it's not all the group's appearances, the DVD starts with the very first appearance "Come See About Me' and ends with the very last appearance, "Up The Ladder.."[[yes,that WAS by The Supremes)..by the time "Stoned Love" hit, Sullivan was no longer on the air,in fact I think the show was gone before "Everybody's Got The Right To Love"; Supremes singles were always helped/hyped nationally by a Sullivan appearance, and "Everybody's Got.." was the first single by the group to be denied that exposure..
singles that didn't get the Sullivan treatment like "The Composer" and "Somethings You Never Get Used To", suffered accordingly..for kids/fans like me, Sullivan is how we found out that there was a new Supremes single in the first place

Jimi, the Ed Sullivan Show ran until June, 1971 I believe.

[redlabs]

many times people have stated that Florence was not on MY WORLD IS EMPTY but after hearing the remix a year or so ago from the motown remix cd, you can hear Flo vocals in the background in this version. it seems her vocals were mixed in the background for the single version. also on the REFLECTIONS dvd ,you can hear Flo on the version that appears on it.
it could be the same on Reflections and HURRY LOVE so until i hear it for myself ,..its the Supremes.

[Jimi LaLumia]

wow, I never heard this tale before, not in anything from Taraborelli, nor Mary Wilson, or anywhere except this post above; why have we never this before? anyone know how valid the above post is?..I'm only curious cos I've never heard this before

[carlo]

This release is now available for pre-order on Hip-O Select's website. There will only be 7000 copies printed.

[luke]

I do believe Mary and Andy S have been very clear Flo is on Reflections--I have never been able to hear her on Where did our love go but shes there too!! Ive never heard the above story either. I find it hard to believe Motown would bring back Flo so soon after all that happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDNmm6kpscIn You can sure hear Flo here--I guess thats why our Miss Ross stood right in front of her;--and cant hear Mary!

[bradsupremes]

Mary does her best to uphold the original Supremes' image and I think she says that Florence is on "Reflections" just to protect Florence. If you look at the recording date information, the instrumental track for "Reflections" was recorded on March 2, 1967. "The Happening" and an unused instrumental of "In And Out Of Love" were recorded that day as well. The vocals for "Reflections" weren't added until May 9, 1967. By then, Florence was already on her way out the door. A week earlier, she missed the Hollywood Bowl performance and that marked the first time Cindy stood in for her. It wouldn't surprise me if she didn't show up for the recording session or if Berry told her not to participate in the session as a way of teaching her a lesson for skipping out on a performance. I've heard parts of the isolated background vocals and I can definitely hear Mary on the bottom part. Unless Florence is doing her best not to sound like herself and singing very differently, she is not the soprano that is singing on the record. I believe the soprano who is singing is Marlene Barrow.

[jobeterob]

You know the story from Vickie's book about the Andantes where Marlene Barrow says she is also on You Cant Hurry Love and that Florence is not........for what it's worth.

I have had a discussion with someone who works for Motown saying he believes she could be right. One of the reasons for this belief is that they could never really reproduce that song live; and the Supremes and Diana were very good at reproducing their sound.

The group was finished by 1967; if you read Mr. Abrams book, you will see a lengthy news story on Diana Ross from 1966, March, I believe and there were already rumours and news stories that she would be leaving. The one in the book does everything it can to push the possibility.

[bradsupremes]

For anyone wondering what Marlene Barrow sounds like, take a listen to P.J.'s "T.L.C" from 1971. From what I was told, Marlene is singing "T.L.C. is what you get from me" at the very beginning.

That's the voice that matches the one on "You Can't Hurry Love," "Misery Makes Its Home In My Heart," and "Reflections."

P.J. - T.L.C. [[Tender Loving Care)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXP9V-EBBeM

[soulballad]

Mary does her best to uphold the original Supremes' image and I think she says that Florence is on "Reflections" just to protect Florence. If you look at the recording date information, the instrumental track for "Reflections" was recorded on March 2, 1967. "The Happening" and an unused instrumental of "In And Out Of Love" were recorded that day as well. The vocals for "Reflections" weren't added until May 9, 1967. By then, Florence was already on her way out the door. A week earlier, she missed the Hollywood Bowl performance and that marked the first time Cindy stood in for her. It wouldn't surprise me if she didn't show up for the recording session or if Berry told her not to participate in the session as a way of teaching her a lesson for skipping out on a performance. I've heard parts of the isolated background vocals and I can definitely hear Mary on the bottom part. Unless Florence is doing her best not to sound like herself and singing very differently, she is not the soprano that is singing on the record. I believe the soprano who is singing is Marlene Barrow.

The song "Reflections" was completed right around their 1967 Copa engagement, in fact they started rehearsals for the Millie/Rose/Mame medley during the first week of May. The show was actually recorded on May 7th. They performed "The Happening" as well as the Millie Medley. The vocals to Reflections were done on May 9th. The Copa shows began around the 11th and ended around the 24th. During this time The Rogers & Hart Special aired and they also did the What's My line and Johnny Carson's. It's not very likely that anyone other than Diana, Mary and Flo are on this recording.

[franjoy56]

This live performance coupled with the Ed Sullivan show on 2/19/66 are two of the best performance the supremes graced on the song "My world is emepty without you" flo is coming thru loud and clear. Also on this show the Supremes swaped songs with the Andrew Sisters and Flo is in the middle and leading the songs still sounding great in feb of 1966.

I do believe Mary and Andy S have been very clear Flo is on Reflections--I have never been able to hear her on Where did our love go but shes there too!! Ive never heard the above story either. I find it hard to believe Motown would bring back Flo so soon after all that happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDNmm6kpscIn You can sure hear Flo here--I guess thats why our Miss Ross stood right in front of her;--and cant hear Mary!

[rod_rick]

This live performance coupled with the Ed Sullivan show on 2/19/66 are two of the best performance the supremes graced on the song "My world is emepty without you" flo is coming thru loud and clear. Also on this show the Supremes swaped songs with the Andrew Sisters and Flo is in the middle and leading the songs still sounding great in feb of 1966.

Flo is on Where Did Our Love Go. This one of the times where they had Flo standing several feet from the microphone and Mary is up close. Flo might be a mere echo in the background, but she's there

[smark21]

This live performance coupled with the Ed Sullivan show on 2/19/66 are two of the best performance the supremes graced on the song "My world is emepty without you" flo is coming thru loud and clear. Also on this show the Supremes swaped songs with the Andrew Sisters and Flo is in the middle and leading the songs still sounding great in feb of 1966.

I'll have to disagree. Flo's mic is set very high and as a result it ruins the blend and makes for an awful sounding harmony as she sounds loud and gravelly. Harmony vocals should blend and background vocals should complement and enhance the song, not overwhelm it. So some fault goes to the sound tech for botching the mic check and some fault to Flo for not trying harder to blend her voice with Mary.

[rod_rick]

There's NO Harmony on My World Is Empty. But you are right about the tech person the backing mic should have been closer to Mary. If Fo could hear Mary she may not have felt she was blending with Mary.

[jobeterob]

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[luke]

Thats why I said Andy S was also clear about Flo being on Reflections.