SOMEDAY'S Climb to #1

[marybrewster]

SOMEDAY WE'LL BE TOGETHER was the final single by DRATS. It was released as a single on October 14, 1969, and peaked at #1 on December 27, 1969, basically 10 weeks, or two and a half months later. That's a slow climb. I'd love to know how it charted each week, leading up to #1.

I'd also be curious when exactly it was added to their show; they performed it on their last Sullivan appearance on December 21st, 1969, and of course, during their engagement at the Frontier leading up to January 14, 1970.

[johnjeb]

Although all sources indicate that SWBT was released on October 14, 1969, it didn't debut on Billboard's Hot 100 until November 8th and a week later, November 15th, on Billboard's Soul chart. It debuted on Record World on November 8th, as well, but a debut date of November 1st on Cash Box. It would seem that the record had a release date of October 14th but not an actual physical release. The song was performed on Hollywood Palace October 18th.

SWBT charted for 16 weeks:
50 [[November 8, 1969) , 34, 20, 11, 9, 3, 2, 1 [[December 27, 1969), 3, 2, 4, 4, 9, 15, 19, 29 [[February 21, 1970)

So, it really wasn't that slow a climb but certainly not as fast as their biggest hits. I've always been suspicious that the song might have been purposely held for #1 as the last song of the decade. It's also interesting that the song dropped to #3, then went back to #2 before continuing it descent.

I did not have access to AM radio at the rural university I attended so I didn't know how the song was being received. I saw the Hollywood Palace performance but did not hear the song again until I was home for Christmas break.

I saw the group September 26 and October 3, 1969. They did not sing SWBT.

[sup_fan]

that's right. it typically seems to have taken Sup singles 4 weeks or so after release date to enter the charts. Someday definitely moved quickly up the charts.

it entered at 50 which is a pretty high entry point. 5 weeks later its in the Top 10

it then spent 9 weeks in the top 10 which is VERY impressive. and it spent a total of 16 weeks on the charts, matching the chart run duration of Love Child. those 2 songs were on the charts the longest.

14 weeks is the next longest Sup singles chart run and that includes WDOLG, Come See About me and Stoned Love.

Interestingly Bad Weather and Let Me Go the Right Way also both were on the charts for 14 weeks!! lol but they just hovered around the 100 mark the full time. but they did last a while

[jobeterob]

I worked at a record store at the time and it sold masses of copies and continued to sell for a long time

[sup_fan]

for Diana solo singles and chart durations:

upside down is the longest at 26 weeks

touch me in the morning 21 weeks

love hangover 18 weeks

I'm coming out and Mahogany - 17 weeks

My Mistake and The Boss - 16 weeks

my chart data ends in jan 81 so i don't have any info on Endless Love, which certainly has to be up near the top too

[sup_fan]

Although all sources indicate that SWBT was released on October 14, 1969, it didn't debut on Billboard's Hot 100 until November 8th and a week later, November 15th, on Billboard's Soul chart. It debuted on Record World on November 8th, as well, but a debut date of November 1st on Cash Box. It would seem that the record had a release date of October 14th but not an actual physical release. The song was performed on Hollywood Palace October 18th.

SWBT charted for 16 weeks:
50 [[November 8, 1969) , 34, 20, 11, 9, 3, 2, 1 [[December 27, 1969), 3, 2, 4, 4, 9, 15, 19, 29 [[February 21, 1970)

So, it really wasn't that slow a climb but certainly not as fast as their biggest hits. I've always been suspicious that the song might have been purposely held for #1 as the last song of the decade. It's also interesting that the song dropped to #3, then went back to #2 before continuing it descent.

I did not have access to AM radio at the rural university I attended so I didn't know how the song was being received. I saw the Hollywood Palace performance but did not hear the song again until I was home for Christmas break.

I saw the group September 26 and October 3, 1969. They did not sing SWBT.

the rise of SWBT isn't too unusual when compared to the rest of the discography. to go for 4 weeks from chart entry to top ten is actually pretty fast. what is unusual is that it took several weeks once inside the Top Ten to go to 1. if you count the week at 11 [[which is close enough to Top Tem) then it took a month to finally inch all the way up

another usual trait is that after peaking, it didn't just drop off. that slow slide down is different as most of the hits fell like a rock after peaking

and tell us more about those concerts!!

[sup_fan]

I worked at a record store at the time and it sold masses of copies and continued to sell for a long time

was there any type of special posters or displays for Someday? or what about other Sup releases?

[marybrewster]

Although all sources indicate that SWBT was released on October 14, 1969, it didn't debut on Billboard's Hot 100 until November 8th and a week later, November 15th, on Billboard's Soul chart. It debuted on Record World on November 8th, as well, but a debut date of November 1st on Cash Box. It would seem that the record had a release date of October 14th but not an actual physical release. The song was performed on Hollywood Palace October 18th.

SWBT charted for 16 weeks:
50 [[November 8, 1969) , 34, 20, 11, 9, 3, 2, 1 [[December 27, 1969), 3, 2, 4, 4, 9, 15, 19, 29 [[February 21, 1970)

So, it really wasn't that slow a climb but certainly not as fast as their biggest hits. I've always been suspicious that the song might have been purposely held for #1 as the last song of the decade. It's also interesting that the song dropped to #3, then went back to #2 before continuing it descent.

I did not have access to AM radio at the rural university I attended so I didn't know how the song was being received. I saw the Hollywood Palace performance but did not hear the song again until I was home for Christmas break.

I saw the group September 26 and October 3, 1969. They did not sing SWBT.

Thank you for the chart numbers! So interesting to see! Do you recall, was Hollywood Palace a live show, or prerecorded? Clearly the appearance didn't do much for sales that week. I guess my wording of a "slow climb" should interpreted more as, for the big smash that it was; the "swan song" of the DRATS and the last #1 of the decade certainly wasn't the sure fire hit its been made out to be, especially only moving from #11 to #9 in weeks 6 and 7. I find it interesting too that it did jump from #3 to #2 in early 1970. I'm guessing this would have been right around the FAREWELL performance, so I'm sure there was a lot of media coverage. Then to stay at #4 for two more weeks.

[jobeterob]

was there any type of special posters or displays for Someday? or what about other Sup releases?

No - but I didn’t live in Vancouver or Toronto !

[daviddh]

didnt know that Bad Weather was on the charts that long.thought it was short lived
Im Gonna Let my Heart Do the Walking had a 14 week chart stay but only made top 40

[BayouMotownMan]

By staying in the Top 20 for almost three months, SWBT enjoyed massive sales, and at Christmas time, which resulted in a platinum selling single. The year 1969 saw the group drop in sales considerably, worse than before Love Child. Also, the announcement that Diana was officially leaving a matter of weeks after the song's release also made the record a must-have. This was it! Finally.

[marybrewster]

I wonder when The Smokey Robinson Special was taped, as SWBT was included as a duet with JMC and SR.

[JohnnyB]

for Diana solo singles and chart durations:

upside down is the longest at 26 weeks

touch me in the morning 21 weeks

love hangover 18 weeks

I'm coming out and Mahogany - 17 weeks

My Mistake and The Boss - 16 weeks

my chart data ends in jan 81 so i don't have any info on Endless Love, which certainly has to be up near the top too

If my memory serves me correctly, Endless Love charted 27 weeks on the Hot 100…

[reese]

I wonder when The Smokey Robinson Special was taped, as SWBT was included as a duet with JMC and SR.

In an old SDF thread, someone mentioned the tape date as 9/8/70.

[florence]

Interesting that although it was supposed to be one of their biggest sellers and the Record World Top 100 was based on sales only it didn't make #1 on their chart = #2 for 3 weeks.

[BayouMotownMan]

I did extensive research in the 80s and 90s on all three charts, BB, CB and RW. There are some giant variations on the success of a single or lp but mostly they were reasonably in agreement. The Supremes had 12 No. 1 records on the BB Hot 100 charts. On Record World it was 8 as I recall as Someday, Back and Keep Me Hangin' On stalled at No. 2. This is the way I remember it without pulling all this stuff out, and I am sure one of you guys will correct me. LOL

On Billboard, according to chart performance the top 3 Supremes hits were 1. Love Child, 2. Someday We'll Be Together, 3. Come See About Me.

[sup_fan]

In an old SDF thread, someone mentioned the tape date as 9/8/70.

i'm guessing it was taped earlier. the girls are wearing all DRATS era gowns, as i believe they hadn't really had additional new sets made yet. supposedly they only had the red Ladder outfits for the Sullivan debut made as they didn't want to invest tons of money on gowns if the group failed to connect with the public. But once it was clear they were a hit, additional outfits were made. like the white fringe pantsuits they wore on Andy Williams in Sept and the pink pantsuits on Glen Campbell in early Oct

if you watch the full Smokey special, in the opening when Smokey is introducing the acts, the girls sing a little line kinda in line with Everybody's Got the Right, although it isn't exactly like the melody in the actual song and they never do the song itself on the show. EGTRTL was released in June so my guess is they taped Smokey around June or July.

George shared a while back a preliminary Right On album line up which did not include EGTRTL. lead vocals for the tune were completed on 4/22/70 and the Right On album was released on 4/26. so it was truly a last minute addition to the album.

As was motown's tradition, if a producer scored a hit on a group, they got the follow up and with the strong showing of Ladder, Frank would have been given the greenlight for the follow up. I guess he thought EGTRTL was a sure-fire hit as the raced to finish it for the lp and the release. IMO it pales drastically in comparison with Ladder. Ladder had a lush and ethereal sound and they should have stuck with another of Berry's tried and true rules - have the follow up share elements of success from the prior tune.

[florence]

I did extensive research in the 80s and 90s on all three charts, BB, CB and RW. There are some giant variations on the success of a single or lp but mostly they were reasonably in agreement. The Supremes had 12 No. 1 records on the BB Hot 100 charts. On Record World it was 8 as I recall as Someday, Back and Keep Me Hangin' On stalled at No. 2. This is the way I remember it without pulling all this stuff out, and I am sure one of you guys will correct me. LOL

On Billboard, according to chart performance the top 3 Supremes hits were 1. Love Child, 2. Someday We'll Be Together, 3. Come See About Me.

Of the 12 Billboard #1s, 10 also reached #1 in Record World.

As you mention Someday and Back stalled at #2 but You Keep Me Hanging On was #1 for 2 weeks.

Also I'm Gonna Make You Love Me with The Temptatiions made #1 [[as it did in Cashbox) - sales were massive.

[bradsupremes]

Side note about charts -

I've looked a bunch of chart surveys from multiple cities across the US and I was shocked at how each city took to the ladies. In some places, they were constantly in the top 10, even songs that failed to crack the top 20 on Billboard were charting top 10, yet in other cities the ladies weren't scoring the hits like they were on the national charts.

"Stoned Love" for example stayed in the top 10 on Philadelphia's WFIL for 9 weeks [[Placed in the top 10 November 9, 1970 and dropped out of the top 10 on January 11, 1971.) It climbed as high as #2 and for weeks stayed at #4. At one point it dropped to #9, but then bounced back up the chart to #7. Even "Some Things You Never Get Used To" went as high as #11.

[sup_fan]

Side note about charts -

I've looked a bunch of chart surveys from multiple cities across the US and I was shocked at how each city took to the ladies. In some places, they were constantly in the top 10, even songs that failed to crack the top 20 on Billboard were charting top 10, yet in other cities the ladies weren't scoring the hits like they were on the national charts.

"Stoned Love" for example stayed in the top 10 on Philadelphia's WFIL for 9 weeks [[Placed in the top 10 November 9, 1970 and dropped out of the top 10 on January 11, 1971.) It climbed as high as #2 and for weeks stayed at #4. At one point it dropped to #9, but then bounced back up the chart to #7. Even "Some Things You Never Get Used To" went as high as #11.

i noticed similar with the disco charts since Billboard was still publishing the cities top 20 or so, even after Billboard launched the National Disco Chart in Sept or so 76. Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, DC and San fran had excellent chart rankings for Walking, Wheel and LYG [[and sometimes including Love I Never Knew and don't wanna be tied down). but then other cities - nothing. the girls weren't getting much action in Dallas, Detroit, Boston.

[jobeterob]

i noticed similar with the disco charts since Billboard was still publishing the cities top 20 or so, even after Billboard launched the National Disco Chart in Sept or so 76. Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, DC and San fran had excellent chart rankings for Walking, Wheel and LYG [[and sometimes including Love I Never Knew and don't wanna be tied down). but then other cities - nothing. the girls weren't getting much action in Dallas, Detroit, Boston.

The disco chart was just club play so it really was all over the place

[Boogiedown]

The disco chart was just club play so it really was all over the place

yes. I belonged to a record pool and part of the requirement of picking up the week's stash was turning in your hit list. If i wanted some particular record to be my #1, I could most certainly just write it down as such. No one was checking up or counting how many people were on the dance floor for any certain song.

Also who knows how the pool actually then tabulated. If someone was reporting some radio-ish song by Heatwave or Wild Cherry as their biggest hit and they were from some [straight] club out of SF proper, say San Mateo, the snobs running it out of Sf weren't going to give it as much credence, as they would say a record by Two Tons.
Part of being hip would be by being an early city to spot the obscure and/or the future national hits.

[George Solomon]

At a glance...
RELEASED AS: THE SUPREMES

03/09/61 – I WANT A GUY

07/21/61 – BUTTERED POPCORN

05/08/62 – YOUR HEART BELONGS TO ME [[08/11/62) - BB 95

11/05/62 – LET ME GO THE RIGHT WAY [[12/08/62) –
BB 90 – CB 89 - R&B 26

02/00/63 – MY HEART CAN’T TAKE IT NO MORE – POP 129

06/12/63 – A BREATH TAKING GUY [[07/27/63) – BB 75 - CB 75

10/31/63 – WHEN THE LOVELIGHT STARTS SHINING THROUGH HIS EYES
[[01/18/64) - BB 21 - CB 20 - R&B 2 [[CB)

02/07/64 – RUN, RUN, RUN [[03/14/64) – BB 93 – CB 86

06/17/64 - WHERE DID OUR LOVE GO – BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 1 – UK 3

09/17/64 - BABY LOVE - BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 1 – UK 1

10/27/64 - COME SEE ABOUT ME - BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 1 - R&B 3 - UK 27

02/08/65 - STOP! IN THE NAME OF LOVE - BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 1
R&B 2 –UK 7

04/15/65 - BACK IN MY ARMS AGAIN - BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 2
R&B 1 – UK 40

07/16/65 - NOTHING BUT HEARTACHES - BB 11 - CB 8 - RW 11 – R&B 6

10/06/65 - I HEAR A SYMPHONY - BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 1 – R&B 2 – UK 39

11/18/65 – CHILDREN’S CHRISTMAS SONG – CHRISTMAS 7/
TWINKLE TWINKLE LITTLE ME –
CHRISTMAS 5 [[1965) 26 [[1966) 10 [[1967)

12/29/65 - MY WORLD IS EMPTY WITHOUT YOU - BB 5 - CB 5 - RW 4
R&B 10

04/08/66 - LOVE IS LIKE AN ITCHING IN MY HEART - BB 9 - CB 9 - RW 9
R&B 7

07/25/66 - YOU CAN’T HURRY LOVE - BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 1
R&B 1 – UK 3

10/12/66 - YOU KEEP ME HANGIN’ ON - BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 1
R&B 1 – UK 8

01/11/67 - LOVE IS HERE AND NOW YOU’RE GONE - BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 1
R&B 1 – UK 17

03/20/67 - THE HAPPENING - BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 1 – R&B 12 – UK 6

RELEASED AS: DIANA ROSS AND THE SUPREMES

07/24/67 - REFLECTIONS - BB 2 - CB 2 - RW 2 – R&B 4 – UK 5

10/25/67 - IN AND OUT OF LOVE - BB 9 - CB 10 - RW 8
R&B 16 – UK 13

02/29/68 - FOREVER CAME TODAY [[03/16/68) – BB 28 - CB 13 - RW 15
R&B 17 – UK 28

05/21/68 - SOME THINGS YOU NEVER GET USED TO [[06/08/68) –
BB 30 - CB 22 - RW 21 – R&B 43 – UK 34

09/30/68 - LOVE CHILD - BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 1 – R&B 2 – UK 15

11/21/68 – I’M GONNA MAKE YOU LOVE ME* [[12/07/68) –
BB 2 - CB 1 - RW 1 R&B 2 – UK 3

01/06/69 - I’M LIVIN’ IN SHAME – BB 10 - CB 8 - RW 8 – R&B 8 – UK 14

02/20/69 – I’LL TRY SOMETHING NEW* [[03/15/69) -
BB 25 - CB 21 - RW 18 – R&B 8

03/27/69 – THE COMPOSER [[04/19/69) –
BB 27 - CB 21 - RW 21 – R&B 21

05/09/69 – NO MATTER WHAT SIGN YOU ARE [[05/31/69 –
BB 31 - CB 27 - RW 25 - R&B 17 – UK 37

08/02/69 – THE YOUNG FOLKS – BB 69 - CB 89 - RR 62

08/21/69 – THE WEIGHT* [[09/13/69) – BB 46 - CB 39 - RW 34 – R&B 33

10/14/69 - SOMEDAY WE’LL BE TOGETHER - BB 1 - CB 1 - RW 2
R&B 1 – UK 13 – AC 12

[George Solomon]

RELEASED AS: THE SUPREMES

2/16/70 - UP THE LADDER TO THE ROOF [[03/07/70) –
BB 10 - CB 9 - RR 7 R&B 5 – UK 6 – AC 28

6/25/70 - EVERYBODY'S GOT THE RIGHT TO LOVE [[07/18/70) –
BB 21 - CB 14– RR 13 – R&B 11 – AC 29

10/15/70 - STONED LOVE [[11/07/70) – BB 7 – CB 5 – RR 5
R&B 1 – UK 3 –AC 24

11/05/70 - RIVER DEEP~MOUNTAIN HIGH* [[11/28/70 –
BB 14 - CB 15 – RR 12 - R&B 7 – UK 11

04/15/71 - NATHAN JONES [[05/08/71) – BB 16 - CB 10 – RR 8
R&B 8 – UK 5 – AC 29

05/11/71 - YOU GOTTA HAVE LOVE IN YOUR HEART* [[06/05/71) -
BB 55 - CB 51 - RR 44 - R&B 41 – UK 25

09/07/71 – TOUCH [[10/09/71) – BB 71 – CB 56 – RR 61

12/14/71 - FLOY JOY [[01/08/72) – BB 16 – CB 16 – RR 18
R&B 5 – UK 9 – AC 33

04/00/72 - AUTOMATICALLY SUNSHINE [[05/06/72) –
BB 37 - CB 37 – RR 47 - R&B 21 – UK 10 – AC 17

07/00/72 - YOUR WONDERFUL SWEET SWEET LOVE [[08/05/72) –
BB 59 – CB 70 – RR 72 – R&B 22

09/15/72 - I GUESS I'LL MISS THE MAN [[10/21/72) –
BB 85 – CB 100 – RR 95 – AC 17

03/22/73 - BAD WEATHER [[06/09/73) – BB 97 - CB 92 – R&B 74 – UK 37

07/00/75 - HE’S MY MAN - R&B 69 – [[Regional DC 1)

10/00/75 - WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE - R&B 93 – [[Regional DC 3)

[[LP CUT) – COLOR MY WORLD BLUE [[Regional DC 9)

[[LP CUT) – EARLY MORNING LOVE [[Regional DC 6)

[[LP CUT) – THIS IS WHY I BELIEVE IN YOU [[Regional DC 1)

05/29/76 - I'M GOING TO LET MY HEART DO THE WALKING -
BB 40 - CB 54 - RR 56 – R&B 25 DC 3 [[Regional DC 2)

[[LP CUT) - HIGH ENERGY – DC 9 [[Regional DC 3)

10/00/76 - YOU'RE MY DRIVING WHEEL [[12/04/76) –
BB 85 – R&B 50 - DC 5

02/00/77 - LET YOURSELF GO - R&B 83 DC 5

[[LP CUT) – LOVE I NEVER KNEW YOU COULD FEEL SO GOOD – DC 5

[daviddh]

Thank you for sharing charting numbers.
Very interesting,especially some of the lesser hits ,

[sup_fan]

RELEASED AS: THE SUPREMES

2/16/70 - UP THE LADDER TO THE ROOF [[03/07/70) –
BB 10 - CB 9 - RR 7 R&B 5 – UK 6 – AC 28

6/25/70 - EVERYBODY'S GOT THE RIGHT TO LOVE [[07/18/70) –
BB 21 - CB 14– RR 13 – R&B 11 – AC 29

10/15/70 - STONED LOVE [[11/07/70) – BB 7 – CB 5 – RR 5
R&B 1 – UK 3 –AC 24

11/05/70 - RIVER DEEP~MOUNTAIN HIGH* [[11/28/70 –
BB 14 - CB 15 – RR 12 - R&B 7 – UK 11

04/15/71 - NATHAN JONES [[05/08/71) – BB 16 - CB 10 – RR 8
R&B 8 – UK 5 – AC 29

05/11/71 - YOU GOTTA HAVE LOVE IN YOUR HEART* [[06/05/71) -
BB 55 - CB 51 - RR 44 - R&B 41 – UK 25

09/07/71 – TOUCH [[10/09/71) – BB 71 – CB 56 – RR 61

12/14/71 - FLOY JOY [[01/08/72) – BB 16 – CB 16 – RR 18
R&B 5 – UK 9 – AC 33

04/00/72 - AUTOMATICALLY SUNSHINE [[05/06/72) –
BB 37 - CB 37 – RR 47 - R&B 21 – UK 10 – AC 17

07/00/72 - YOUR WONDERFUL SWEET SWEET LOVE [[08/05/72) –
BB 59 – CB 70 – RR 72 – R&B 22

09/15/72 - I GUESS I'LL MISS THE MAN [[10/21/72) –
BB 85 – CB 100 – RR 95 – AC 17

03/22/73 - BAD WEATHER [[06/09/73) – BB 97 - CB 92 – R&B 74 – UK 37

07/00/75 - HE’S MY MAN - R&B 69 – [[Regional DC 1)

10/00/75 - WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE - R&B 93 – [[Regional DC 3)

[[LP CUT) – COLOR MY WORLD BLUE [[Regional DC 9)

[[LP CUT) – EARLY MORNING LOVE [[Regional DC 6)

[[LP CUT) – THIS IS WHY I BELIEVE IN YOU [[Regional DC 1)

05/29/76 - I'M GOING TO LET MY HEART DO THE WALKING -
BB 40 - CB 54 - RR 56 – R&B 25 DC 3 [[Regional DC 2)

[[LP CUT) - HIGH ENERGY – DC 9 [[Regional DC 3)

10/00/76 - YOU'RE MY DRIVING WHEEL [[12/04/76) –
BB 85 – R&B 50 - DC 5

02/00/77 - LET YOURSELF GO - R&B 83 DC 5

[[LP CUT) – LOVE I NEVER KNEW YOU COULD FEEL SO GOOD – DC 5

one correction George

HMM and Where Do I Go From Here were co-listed at #1 on the Regional Disco Chart the week of 8/2/75. so technically it too peaking at #1

[sup_fan]

RELEASED AS: THE SUPREMES

2/16/70 - UP THE LADDER TO THE ROOF [[03/07/70) –
BB 10 - CB 9 - RR 7 R&B 5 – UK 6 – AC 28

6/25/70 - EVERYBODY'S GOT THE RIGHT TO LOVE [[07/18/70) –
BB 21 - CB 14– RR 13 – R&B 11 – AC 29

10/15/70 - STONED LOVE [[11/07/70) – BB 7 – CB 5 – RR 5
R&B 1 – UK 3 –AC 24

11/05/70 - RIVER DEEP~MOUNTAIN HIGH* [[11/28/70 –
BB 14 - CB 15 – RR 12 - R&B 7 – UK 11

04/15/71 - NATHAN JONES [[05/08/71) – BB 16 - CB 10 – RR 8
R&B 8 – UK 5 – AC 29

05/11/71 - YOU GOTTA HAVE LOVE IN YOUR HEART* [[06/05/71) -
BB 55 - CB 51 - RR 44 - R&B 41 – UK 25

09/07/71 – TOUCH [[10/09/71) – BB 71 – CB 56 – RR 61

12/14/71 - FLOY JOY [[01/08/72) – BB 16 – CB 16 – RR 18
R&B 5 – UK 9 – AC 33

04/00/72 - AUTOMATICALLY SUNSHINE [[05/06/72) –
BB 37 - CB 37 – RR 47 - R&B 21 – UK 10 – AC 17

07/00/72 - YOUR WONDERFUL SWEET SWEET LOVE [[08/05/72) –
BB 59 – CB 70 – RR 72 – R&B 22

09/15/72 - I GUESS I'LL MISS THE MAN [[10/21/72) –
BB 85 – CB 100 – RR 95 – AC 17

03/22/73 - BAD WEATHER [[06/09/73) – BB 97 - CB 92 – R&B 74 – UK 37

07/00/75 - HE’S MY MAN - R&B 69 – [[Regional DC 1)

10/00/75 - WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE - R&B 93 – [[Regional DC 3)

[[LP CUT) – COLOR MY WORLD BLUE [[Regional DC 9)

[[LP CUT) – EARLY MORNING LOVE [[Regional DC 6)

[[LP CUT) – THIS IS WHY I BELIEVE IN YOU [[Regional DC 1)

05/29/76 - I'M GOING TO LET MY HEART DO THE WALKING -
BB 40 - CB 54 - RR 56 – R&B 25 DC 3 [[Regional DC 2)

[[LP CUT) - HIGH ENERGY – DC 9 [[Regional DC 3)

10/00/76 - YOU'RE MY DRIVING WHEEL [[12/04/76) –
BB 85 – R&B 50 - DC 5

02/00/77 - LET YOURSELF GO - R&B 83 DC 5

[[LP CUT) – LOVE I NEVER KNEW YOU COULD FEEL SO GOOD – DC 5

a few more

Walking apparently went #1 on Audience Response Disco Charts for Washington DC, but not sure if this still counts as a chart. It was #1 the weeks of June 19 and July 10


Wheel/LYG peaked at 2 in San Fran on 12/11

LINKYCF peaked nationally at 5 with LYG and Wheel. but regionally it peaked with those two songs at #3 in Atlanta and stayed for several weeks starting 12/18. LINKYCF then dropped off of the colisting and DWBTD joined. Wheel/LYG/DWBTD peaked regionally at #2 in Atlanta the weeks of 1/22 and 1/29.

Come Into My Life peaked at 7 in Miami, colisted with Wheel and LYG the week of 12/11 which is not quite a month prior to them doing it on Soul Train. it then charted in Philly by itself and peaked at 15

[TheMotownManiac]

a few more

Walking apparently went #1 on Audience Response Disco Charts for Washington DC, but not sure if this still counts as a chart. It was #1 the weeks of June 19 and July 10


Wheel/LYG peaked at 2 in San Fran on 12/11

LINKYCF peaked nationally at 5 with LYG and Wheel. but regionally it peaked with those two songs at #3 in Atlanta and stayed for several weeks starting 12/18. LINKYCF then dropped off of the colisting and DWBTD joined. Wheel/LYG/DWBTD peaked regionally at #2 in Atlanta the weeks of 1/22 and 1/29.

Come Into My Life peaked at 7 in Miami, colisted with Wheel and LYG the week of 12/11 which is not quite a month prior to them doing it on Soul Train. it then charted in Philly by itself and peaked at 15

records, often took quite a while to chart. up the ladder to the roof was released on February 16 but did not chart until March 7. Of course, I never believed that it was sold out the next day after Ed sullivan, because no stores that I could find even had it or had heard of it. I called every day in the greater St. Louis area and it took at least a week to get it, and I played it to pieces once I got it.

i’m not sure someday hit stores, but I remember a week or two before Halloween. We were working on the haunted house at our high school, and it came on the radio, and I was so pleased that a record of theirs was finally getting some airplay. It sounded exciting on the radio, it sounded like a smash. I can’t remember when I actually found it in the store but by the time they were on Hollywood Palace, I knew it by heart.

It also was a huge hit on the R&B chart staying at number one for four weeks. I don’t believe there was any kind of significant increase in chart action, if at all because it was the last record for Diana Ross & The Supremes. $.99 was a lot of money back then and no one I knew would spend that much on sentimentality. You could get two joints at Claybrook Park for that.

[George Solomon]

Thank you!

one correction George

HMM and Where Do I Go From Here were co-listed at #1 on the Regional Disco Chart the week of 8/2/75. so technically it too peaking at #1

[johnjeb]

Thank you for the chart numbers! So interesting to see! Do you recall, was Hollywood Palace a live show, or prerecorded? Clearly the appearance didn't do much for sales that week. I guess my wording of a "slow climb" should interpreted more as, for the big smash that it was; the "swan song" of the DRATS and the last #1 of the decade certainly wasn't the sure fire hit its been made out to be, especially only moving from #11 to #9 in weeks 6 and 7. I find it interesting too that it did jump from #3 to #2 in early 1970. I'm guessing this would have been right around the FAREWELL performance, so I'm sure there was a lot of media coverage. Then to stay at #4 for two more weeks.

I do recall that Hollywood Palace was recorded in advance of broadcast, usually about a week or so. I verified my recall by referencing Laurent's wonderful site which I often refer to as my memory fades on the details from years ago.

It seems the show was recorded on October 10th, the single supposedly released on the 14th and the broadcast of the show on the 18th.

From http://dianarosssupremes.free.fr/Tim...ncre%20October
October 10
Recording of the TV show “The Hollywood Palace” [[broadcast on October 18).
October 14
Single “Someday We’ll Be Together” released [[# 1 on pop charts).
October 18
TV show “The Hollywood Palace”. Diana Ross and the Supremes host the show. This is also the first TV appearance of the Jackson 5.

Another factor for the "slower" climb to the top of the charts could be that this song, unlike most of The Supremes hits, was also "slower" in tempo. It may not have resonated as quickly with a younger radio audience but did so over time and maybe with a more mature radio audience.

As I mentioned in a previous post, I was in a rural area in college and didn't have access to AM radio or even basic TV, for the most part, so I am unaware of media coverage. However, in general, media coverage for POP artists was not what it is today. It was practically non-existent in mainstream outlets other than entertainment publications. I don't have easy access to my memorabilia in the attic but I don't personally recall any widespread media coverage of their last concert.

[jobeterob]

At times songs flew up the chart and at other times, the ascent was generally slower - it’s a sweeping generalization but there is truth to it

In the mid 60’s, songs flew up and did not stay on the charts that long and in the time of Upside Down they would stay on three times as long; today they stay on forever and the holiday songs are allowed to re-chart on the main chart

Length of the stay does not always determine the ultimate sales figures

In the scheme of things, the disco and dance charts don’t mean much - it did not signify sales or airplay

[sup_fan]

records, often took quite a while to chart. up the ladder to the roof was released on February 16 but did not chart until March 7. Of course, I never believed that it was sold out the next day after Ed sullivan, because no stores that I could find even had it or had heard of it. I called every day in the greater St. Louis area and it took at least a week to get it, and I played it to pieces once I got it.

i’m not sure someday hit stores, but I remember a week or two before Halloween. We were working on the haunted house at our high school, and it came on the radio, and I was so pleased that a record of theirs was finally getting some airplay. It sounded exciting on the radio, it sounded like a smash. I can’t remember when I actually found it in the store but by the time they were on Hollywood Palace, I knew it by heart.

It also was a huge hit on the R&B chart staying at number one for four weeks. I don’t believe there was any kind of significant increase in chart action, if at all because it was the last record for Diana Ross & The Supremes. $.99 was a lot of money back then and no one I knew would spend that much on sentimentality. You could get two joints at Claybrook Park for that.

we have the release dates for most of the 60s singles but in the 70s for some reason we mostly just have release month. not exact date. that of course made things challenging for me as i was researching in Billboard. and i only did billboard. typically after a song was released, i would look at the Week 3 or Week 4 subsequent issue of BB. that was typically when the review would appear, the ad from motown. then the next week was usually when it first entered the Top 100. so pretty much everything took a month to start it's chart action. give or take a week.

[daviddh]

Does anyone know what the sales were for I'm Gonna Let My Heart....it seems to hang on for weeks

[jobeterob]

Does anyone know what the sales were for I'm Gonna Let My Heart....it seems to hang on for weeks

Hard to get any singles data but that Greasy Lake site that listed Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder and the Supremes had the Supremes 1975 at 70,000, High Energy at 125,000 and MSS at 50,000