Should Diana Do A Tribute Song To Michael On Her New Album?

[Boogiedown]

---Their close relationship is legendary , yet Diana has never paid a recorded tribute to their friendship since Michael's passing. Presuming she wanted to , Diana mainly hasn't had a chance, she hasn't recorded an album since he died in 2009.
Seems like it would be a fitting way to let the world know he still has a place in her heart [[if it is so) , and this long passing of time would make it seem hardly a cash in. Kind of risky actually , considering the current tide , but it could be done in a way that steers far away from appearing to side on such issues.

Actually there are a couple of ways to do this , one would be a newly written song [[ written by?) referencing Michael [[ MICHAEL could even be the song's title), or she could simply pay a remembrance by performing one of his songs from his catalogue. Trouble is, when I think of Jackson's hits, none of them jump out as appropriate for the purpose here. Or maybe I'm overlooking some titles....

Just a thought , it might be something to add some zing to this new project. Any thoughts?

[jobeterob]

Didn’t she perform You Are Not Alone several times as a tribute?

It is on some album as well but perhaps not an American release.

Trouble is - isn’t that song written by R Kelly?

[Bluebrock]

Didn’t she perform You Are Not Alone several times as a tribute?

It is on some album as well but perhaps not an American release.

Trouble is - isn’t that song written by R Kelly?

Her version of this was included on the UK album Voice of Love. It was indeed written by R.Kelly. There is no way she would perform this nowadays.
It's a great song but totally inappropriate for her these days

[vgalindo]

Her version of this was included on the UK album Voice of Love. It was indeed written by R.Kelly. There is no way she would perform this nowadays.
It's a great song but totally inappropriate for her these days

Didn’t she just perform this song to Katherine Jackson earlier this year?

[reese]

Didn’t she just perform this song to Katherine Jackson earlier this year?

Yes she did, a couple of months ago. And as mentioned above, it was the closing number on her initial MORE TODAY THAN YESTERDAY tour.

Re a song on the new album, if she wants to, more power to her. But I don't think its necessary. Most people know that Diana loved Michael deeply. Just a few months ago, she tweeted a message of support in the wake of LEAVING NEVERLAND.

[JohnnyB]

[QUOTE=reese;549077]Yes she did, a couple of months ago. And as mentioned above, it was the closing number on her initial MORE TODAY THAN YESTERDAY tour.

Re a song on the new album, if she wants to, more power to her. But I don't think its necessary. Most people know that Diana loved Michael deeply. Just a few months ago, she tweeted a message of support in the wake of LEAVING NEVERLAND.[/QUOTE

Opinions are so polarizing now, it’s almost a no-win situation regardless of the intent if Diana chose to do this. But if she ever desires to record a song in tribute, Gone Too Soon could be a good choice...

[Bluebrock]

---Their close relationship is legendary , yet Diana has never paid a recorded tribute to their friendship since Michael's passing. Presuming she wanted to , Diana mainly hasn't had a chance, she hasn't recorded an album since he died in 2009.
Seems like it would be a fitting way to let the world know he still has a place in her heart [[if it is so) , and this long passing of time would make it seem hardly a cash in. Kind of risky actually , considering the current tide , but it could be done in a way that steers far away from appearing to side on such issues.

Actually there are a couple of ways to do this , one would be a newly written song [[ written by?) referencing Michael [[ MICHAEL could even be the song's title), or she could simply pay a remembrance by performing one of his songs from his catalogue. Trouble is, when I think of Jackson's hits, none of them jump out as appropriate for the purpose here. Or maybe I'm overlooking some titles....

Just a thought , it might be something to add some zing to this new project. Any thoughts?

It is highly unlikely to happen. It would not be greeted with universal acclaim if she recorded a musical tribute to him. There are way too many unanswered questions regarding Michael Jackson. It is best to leave such an idea at the starting block.
I am neither defending or condoning Michael Jackson. I just don't think this would be a good idea.

[SatansBlues]

It is highly unlikely to happen. It would not be greeted with universal acclaim if she recorded a musical tribute to him. There are way too many unanswered questions regarding Michael Jackson. It is best to leave such an idea at the starting block.
I am neither defending or condoning Michael Jackson. I just don't think this would be a good idea.

100% agree.

[daviddh]

She has several times but I have issues with this as she never did a song for florence Ballard after her death.
Just my opinion.

[vgalindo]

She has several times but I have issues with this as she never did a song for florence Ballard after her death.
Just my opinion.

Every time she sings an early Supremes song it’s a tribute to Florence Ballard. In the 70s she always mentioned Mary and Florence when she did her Supremes medley.

[marv2]

She has several times but I have issues with this as she never did a song for florence Ballard after her death.
Just my opinion.

A song? She barely even talked about Florence's death. I know she never dedicated a song to Florence in any of her shows.

[marv2]

She has several times but I have issues with this as she never did a song for florence Ballard after her death.
Just my opinion.

This is what Diana Ross said almost immediately after Florence's death:

Ross didn't talk to Wilson for her book or People for their article, nor has she since had much to say about what happened with Ballard and the Supremes, even in her own memoir, Secrets of a Sparrow. But Diana: A Biography quotes a 1976 interview given to Chicago Tribune Magazine in which Ross said, "Florence was always on a totally negative trip. She wanted to be a victim. Maybe I should have slapped her face a few times, tried to knock some sense into her. She was one of those people you wanted to grab and shake and yell, 'Get your [expletive] life together.'"

She went on to say a few months later:

"Look, Florence is dead, I'm not. Let's not make a big thing out of this....."

That is what that self centered cow said to an interviewer when he asked Ross about Florence Ballard in 1976!

https://www.eonline.com/news/887285/...of-girl-groups

[Roberta75]

This is what Diana Ross said almost immediately after Florence's death:

Ross didn't talk to Wilson for her book or People for their article, nor has she since had much to say about what happened with Ballard and the Supremes, even in her own memoir, Secrets of a Sparrow. But Diana: A Biography quotes a 1976 interview given to Chicago Tribune Magazine in which Ross said, "Florence was always on a totally negative trip. She wanted to be a victim. Maybe I should have slapped her face a few times, tried to knock some sense into her. She was one of those people you wanted to grab and shake and yell, 'Get your [expletive] life together.'"

She went on to say a few months later:

"Look, Florence is dead, I'm not. Let's not make a big thing out of this....."

That is what that self centered cow said to an interviewer when he asked Ross about Florence Ballard in 1976!

https://www.eonline.com/news/887285/...of-girl-groups

And another real big and real bitter self centered cow said this a few years ago.Hehehehehehehehehe.

"Originally Posted by marv2 October 2016
I don't even go into most Diana Ross threads on here."

[PeaceNHarmony]

I repeat: Oh, bless your heart.

[midnightman]

[khansperac]

She also highlighted Florence in the “Missing You” video.

[captainjames]

She also highlighted Florence in the “Missing You” video.

Yes she has and it included Florence, Tammi Terrell, Paul Williams, Marvin Gaye and her own mother.

[jobeterob]

Lol

Bless your heart for this too

[vgalindo]

And another real big and real bitter self centered cow said this a few years ago.Hehehehehehehehehe.

"Originally Posted by marv2 October 2016
I don't even go into most Diana Ross threads on here."

He can’t stay out of them. He is too obsessed! My goodness he needs to seek professional help.

[jobeterob]

He’d likely calm down if he got his camera back or if Mary would receive him - but maybe he needs a partner too

[Bluebrock]

Getting back on track with regard to the original topic i will repeat what i said earlier that it would not be a good idea to record a tribute song. Just look how this particular thread has exploded at the mere mention of it. It is a far too toxic a subject. Diana's comeback album needs to be an upbeat happy affair. We do not need Michael Jackson to be involved in any way.

[Ollie9]

getting back on track with regard to the original topic i will repeat what i said earlier that it would not be a good idea to record a tribute song. Just look how this particular thread has exploded at the mere mention of it. It is a far too toxic a subject. Diana's comeback album needs to be an upbeat happy affair. We do not need michael jackson to be involved in any way.

***agree***

[midnightman]

Getting back on track with regard to the original topic i will repeat what i said earlier that it would not be a good idea to record a tribute song. Just look how this particular thread has exploded at the mere mention of it. It is a far too toxic a subject. Diana's comeback album needs to be an upbeat happy affair. We do not need Michael Jackson to be involved in any way.

Exactly. She should focus on making another great album. She's done enough tributes. Doing a new one for MJ wouldn't be a good luck considering what we know now...

[Bluebrock]

Exactly. She should focus on making another great album. She's done enough tributes. Doing a new one for MJ wouldn't be a good luck considering what we know now...

Exactly. Feelings are still running high with regard to Michael Jackson. Some refuse to believe the sordid stories that have been circulating whilst some are equally determined to further sully his already damaged reputation.
Somewhere in between perhaps lies the truth.
It would be a risky move for her to record a tribute to him. She should distance herself from him and concentrate on recording what will probably be her penultimate album.

[Boogiedown]

Exactly. Feelings are still running high with regard to Michael Jackson. Some refuse to believe the sordid stories that have been circulating whilst some are equally determined to further sully his already damaged reputation.
Somewhere in between perhaps lies the truth.
It would be a risky move for her to record a tribute to him. She should distance herself from him and concentrate on recording what will probably be her penultimate album.

Good points and your strong response has me softening my own position Bluebrock. Part of me wants to say, this is Diana's [[last?) chance to make such a tribute , if she so desires , but it would have to be totally as something from the heart , lamenting a rather sad outcome of someone she guided and witnessed progress with such promise into an entity beyond belief. Sort of hard to just say , "too bad" old friend, and on with the dance music. Maybe her first album in this many years and at this point in her career should be about a little bit more.
Or ... maybe not !! Why go beyond the easy stuff. Maybe that's enough. Again , I guess it would totally depend on how much doing a song like that would mean to her. And maybe her private thoughts and memories are just that and better kept that way.

Perhaps I should've titled this "COULD" [[instead of "should") Diana put a tribute song for Michael on this LP.? Could she pull it off? Has Michael's legacy really plunged that low? Is he now that toxic that he can't be mentioned? The fairy dust has worn off....

[Bluebrock]

Good points and your strong response has me softening my own position Bluebrock. Part of me wants to say, this is Diana's [[last?) chance to make such a tribute , if she so desires , but it would have to be totally as something from the heart , lamenting a rather sad outcome of someone she guided and witnessed progress with such promise into an entity beyond belief. Sort of hard to just say , "too bad" old friend, and on with the dance music. Maybe her first album in this many years and at this point in her career should be about a little bit more.
Or ... maybe not !! Why go beyond the easy stuff. Maybe that's enough. Again , I guess it would totally depend on how much doing a song like that would mean to her. And maybe her private thoughts and memories are just that and better kept that way.

Perhaps I should've titled this "COULD" [[instead of "should") Diana put a tribute song for Michael on this LP.? Could she pull it off? Has Michael's legacy really plunged that low? Is he now that toxic that he can't be mentioned? The fairy dust has worn off....

It's a tough one Boogiedown. There is no doubt that she was very close to him in the 70's and 80's, but not quite so much thereafter. She is such a private person and will not be comfortable talking about him in public. Whether she is willing to actually pay tribute to him on record remains to be seen. I still think it highly unlikely, and i think it is best if she continues to remain silent with regard to him, and i think she will

[Boogiedown]

It's a tough one Boogiedown. There is no doubt that she was very close to him in the 70's and 80's, but not quite so much thereafter. She is such a private person and will not be comfortable talking about him in public. Whether she is willing to actually pay tribute to him on record remains to be seen. I still think it highly unlikely, and i think it is best if she continues to remain silent with regard to him, and i think she will

It would appear that at some point after the eighties , Diana and Michael distanced themselves from each other for whatever reasons. Based on that , I would say this was a relationship , while once quite close , had cooled ....and since that continued to be the case right up until the point of Michael's demise [[ If I'm understanding that correctly ) ...it doesn't seem productive to revisit this long ago relationship especially based on the potential volatility of such a revisit.

[jobeterob]

There nub of the issue is that Michael might actually have abused children and no one want to associate with that. And there is no real way to put that question or doubt to bed.

[Bluebrock]

There nub of the issue is that Michael might actually have abused children and no one want to associate with that. And there is no real way to put that question or doubt to bed.

Exactly. Whatever she does she will be criticised in certain quarters. She knows this and will be anxious not to cause any further controversy.

[daviddh]

Well I don't think she should.imo.
Move on.she should do her own thing

[marv2]

Well I don't think she should.imo.
Move on.she should do her own thing

We all know that it would not be sincere.......

[marv2]

Anytime. Oh, by the way there was that one time Diana appeared on stage with Michael at the Apollo. This was after she became a drunk alcoholic in the early 2000s

[vgalindo]

Anytime. Oh, by the way there was that one time Diana appeared on stage with Michael at the Apollo. This was after she became a drunk alcoholic in the early 2000s

I swear.. Yo have no shame! You are such an embarrassment..

[jobeterob]

Ah, when he named her guardian of his children?

[daviddh]

If my comments offended anyone that was not my intention. I should proof read my comments first .
But I merely felt it was not a good idea for her to record a song for Michael or anyone.just move on and record new music for us to enjoy

[Bluebrock]

If my comments offended anyone that was not my intention. I should proof read my comments first .
But I merely felt it was not a good idea for her to record a song for Michael or anyone.just move on and record new music for us to enjoy

You did nothing wrong David. We all know where the problem lies on this particular thread.

[vgalindo]

If my comments offended anyone that was not my intention. I should proof read my comments first .
But I merely felt it was not a good idea for her to record a song for Michael or anyone.just move on and record new music for us to enjoy

Daviddh. I’m sorry but my comments weren't meant for you. And I don’t believe your comments offended anyone.

[Roberta75]

I swear.. Yo have no shame! You are such an embarrassment..

Not a lick of shame or decency. Im sorry but hes a sad and pathetic and real bitter lonely old troll.

[marv2]

Mary Wilson was speaking up about and for Michael Jackson very early on like in this interview from 2003:

[RanRan79]

Marv give it a rest. You have a negative chip on your shoulder about a singer you've probably never met, because she didn't support Michael Jackson? Never mind the fact that he apparently didn't feel like she didn't support him, since he did will his children to Diana in the event his mother is unable to care for them. How is it that you're more mad about the situation than he was? That's weird dude.

And as far as exploitation, if what Diana did was exploiting Marvin, then the Commodores also exploited him. And if what they did was exploitation, then Marvin himself exploited Abraham Lincoln, John Kennedy and Martin Luther King by recording "Abraham, Martin and John". And if what Marvin did was exploitation, then Mary Wilson exploited her own mother by recording and releasing "Darling Mother [[Johnnie Mae)". So if one can do it without criticism, can't they all? Or is this a pick and choose what is exploitative recording and what isn't depending on the cast of characters?

[marv2]

Marv give it a rest. You have a negative chip on your shoulder about a singer you've probably never met, because she didn't support Michael Jackson? Never mind the fact that he apparently didn't feel like she didn't support him, since he did will his children to Diana in the event his mother is unable to care for them. How is it that you're more mad about the situation than he was? That's weird dude.

And as far as exploitation, if what Diana did was exploiting Marvin, then the Commodores also exploited him. And if what they did was exploitation, then Marvin himself exploited Abraham Lincoln, John Kennedy and Martin Luther King by recording "Abraham, Martin and John". And if what Marvin did was exploitation, then Mary Wilson exploited her own mother by recording and releasing "Darling Mother [[Johnnie Mae)". So if one can do it without criticism, can't they all? Or is this a pick and choose what is exploitative recording and what isn't depending on the cast of characters?

I'm not giving nothing a rest! They want to talk about Diana Ross, then let's talk about her!

[Boogiedown]

One song that Diana might consider doing as a nod toward Michael , both for the suggestive I'M MISSING YOU type lyrics and because Michael had a top ten hit with it from the THRILLER LP :

[marv2]

One song that Diana might consider to do as a nod toward Michael , both for the suggestive I'M MISSING YOU lyrics and because Michael had a top ten hit with it :

The best tribute she could have gave was to have gone to Michael's funeral[[s) even if she did not sing like she did at Richard Pryor's funeral.

[Boogiedown]

The best tribute she could have gave was to have gone to Michael's funeral[[s) even if she did not sing like she did at Richard Pryor's funeral.

She didn't attend his funeral ?? Who from Motown did??

Were Diana and Richard Pryor particularly associated??

[marv2]

She didn't attend his funeral ?? Who from Motown did??

Were Diana and Richard Pryor particularly associated??

No she did not and she was in town! The private one held at Forest Lawn nor the big memorial held at the Staples Center. Berry Gordy and Suzanne DePasse attended. Gladys Knight, Steve Wonder and Smokey Robinson attended the memorial service at the Staples Center along with Lionel Richie.


Diana Ross did two movies with Richard Pryor,but they really became friends when she would visit him after he became "ill" to seek his advice on how to overcome her alcohol and drug addiction. Amazing huh?

[Roberta75]

No she did not and she was in town! The private one held at Forest Lawn nor the big memorial held at the Staples Center. Berry Gordy and Suzanne DePasse attended. Gladys Knight, Steve Wonder and Smokey Robinson attended the memorial service at the Staples Center along with Lionel Richie.


Diana Ross did two movies with Richard Pryor,but they really became friends when she would visit him after he became "ill" to seek his advice on how to overcome her alcohol and drug addiction. Amazing huh?

In his mind real warped mind Marv2 has full acess to Dianas dianas calendars and diaries. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.

[Ollie9]

One song that Diana might consider doing as a nod toward Michael , both for the suggestive I'M MISSING YOU type lyrics and because Michael had a top ten hit with it from the THRILLER LP :

Not so keen on this version Boogie, but in truth i have never really been a a Patti fan. On the other hand i think the song would have been perfect for Diana's voice.
I would imagine the chances of her recording a tribute to M.J or anyone else for that matter are virtually nil. Done it bought the t-shirt as far as that goes.

[Roberta75]

The best tribute she could have gave was to have gone to Michael's funeral[[s) even if she did not sing like she did at Richard Pryor's funeral.

If she went youd be yapping about that if she sang youd be yapping at that. Your just a big old whiny and bitchy and negative and miserable yapping chihuahua. Diana Ross is eating you up. Get a new hobby lady!!!!

[Bluebrock]

---Their close relationship is legendary , yet Diana has never paid a recorded tribute to their friendship since Michael's passing. Presuming she wanted to , Diana mainly hasn't had a chance, she hasn't recorded an album since he died in 2009.
Seems like it would be a fitting way to let the world know he still has a place in her heart [[if it is so) , and this long passing of time would make it seem hardly a cash in. Kind of risky actually , considering the current tide , but it could be done in a way that steers far away from appearing to side on such issues.

Actually there are a couple of ways to do this , one would be a newly written song [[ written by?) referencing Michael [[ MICHAEL could even be the song's title), or she could simply pay a remembrance by performing one of his songs from his catalogue. Trouble is, when I think of Jackson's hits, none of them jump out as appropriate for the purpose here. Or maybe I'm overlooking some titles....

Just a thought , it might be something to add some zing to this new project. Any thoughts?

Bet you wished you had never started this particular thread Boogiedown.......

[Circa 1824]

No to a tribute song to an accused pedophile.