Your defense if Mary is light compared to your defense of Diana. All in saying is be equal with whom you’re defending.
Your defense if Mary is light compared to your defense of Diana. All in saying is be equal with whom you’re defending.
I agree blackguy69, I'm done with this thread. I really just wanted to find out how that July 1st date was determined but I actually am regretting starting this thread. The same 6 or 7 troublemakers as usual.
Then you be equal as well because imo your defense of Ross is light compare to your defense of Mary.
I do defend Mary but Mary Wilsons isnt my favorite Supreme Diana is but I love all of the Supremes all of them. How can you love the Supremes and listen to there music but despise one of them? Its real odd to me.
Actually I ignore most of this crap and tell everyone to knock it off.
This is for all of the Diana haters, Mary haters and Marv’s shadow
Flo wanting to be out would make sense at that point...
Hopefully now that everyone has had their say we can get back to discussing the music that we all claim to love.
I truly believe Berry Gordy himself has to shoulder a lot of the blame for what transpired. Perhaps Flo would have left the group anyway, but it did not have to happen the way it did. He realised he could not control Florence so wanted her out. Diana and Mary were very young, he was a mature adult in his late 30's. He also happened to be THE BOSS.
In truth i doubt we will ever know all the facts.
This happens in all groups, one take the lead, another is frustrated.
In one hand you have a painful human experience, on another, the necessity to maintain success or make it work.
There were 5 Beatles, than 4. Brian Jones had to leave the Beatles and died a few month later. Pink Floyd member Syd Barrett was replaced by his best friend David Gilmour.
The Supremes are no exception but the fact they are girls changes the perception.
RIGHT?? I had thought that Florence Ballard's 'last day' as a Supreme was a known fact, but it is interesting that there are some differing opinions. Of course it can be debated what would constitute the 'last day': last day performing, last day being given a chance to perform, etc. But I do find the information that Florence wanted out to be interesting. Best to you in mid-Summer England!
Of course it could be said that there will never be a Florence Ballard 'last day' as a Supreme. As long as the records she was present on are played and as long as there are video clips of her in performance Florence Ballard will ALWAYS be a Supreme.
Yes, most of us do. The fact is despite what was going on off stage, Flo chose to go on stage on this day in 1967 intoxicated, not looking or singing well, and at one point during the interchange between she and Ross at the beginning of You're Nobody Til Somebody Loves You she decided to emphasize her girth by rolling her belly over the top of her pantsuit exposing her stomach to a room filled with hundreds of people.
Berry Gordy had no choice but to fire her. Anyone else would have done the same thing.
I maintain Mary Wilson said it best in 1986. She was on a talk show promoting her first book. When asked who was responsible for Flo's downfall she carefully chose her words by saying, "I can't answer that in one or two sentences. A lot of people were responsible for what happened to Flo. Flo herself was responsible."
Let's leave it at that.
I maintain Mary Wilson said it best in 1986. She was on a talk show promoting her first book. When asked who was responsible for Flo's downfall she carefully chose her words by saying, "I can't answer that in one or two sentences. A lot of people were responsible for what happened to Flo. Flo herself was responsible."
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I very much agree.
everyone, get a life,
and let the lady rest in peace..
In all due respect of the girls I think towards the end Flo said that she felt she had messed things up and wanted to make amends. For some reason I remember this being around the Mahogany days. At any rate there will never be another Barbara, Diana, Mary and Florence. Never Never !!
The whole story is sad anyway
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