Again, it would just be nice if once- ONCE- somebody was just real and said, "I feel this way about the story because it's Diana Ross and I hate her guts". What's so hard about that? It's not like anyone fakes liking her & so revealing this kind of sentiment would somehow send the forum spiraling. Just tell the truth & shame the devil: any story regarding Diana Ross vs anyone, some here are always going to take the side of "anyone" no matter what. Will there be one to keep it real this morning?
I'm not a Diana hater, in fact her and Flo are my favorite Supremes and always have been. But I gotta say it sounds like she's being a big baby in this situation. The TSA is just doing their job. I have friends who work for them and I can't tell you the amount of stress they go through every day. People seem to forget what happened in our country nearly 18 years ago.
She might have been acting like a big baby, as I said in a couple of posts. And I'm sure TSA have a very stressful job. The police have a very stressful job also, but should we flippantly overlook complaints against them? [[Well there's a segment of society that actually flippantly overlooks complaints against them, especially when the complainer is Black.) No one has forgotten 9/11 and no one alive then ever will. But sorry, I'm not as afraid of another hijacked plane situation as I am of other threats the government isn't concerned about. TSA are human beings which means they are as fallible as the rest of us. Are they not guilty of wrong doing ever?
It sounds like anything Diana does she is a "Hot News Topic"
So it would appear that she is not some washed up has been that no one cares about. Diana is definitely still Supreme and actually if she experienced something like this before I can see those flashes going back through here head and she has every right to say she was not treated fair and complain. It must be a slow news day or the LADY still has it.
Here's a letter from Ms. Anita Hill as published in today's New York Times. For a few of us my posting of this will be relevant:
"Last month, Joe Biden called me to talk about his conduct during Clarence Thomas’s Supreme Court confirmation hearings in 1991. There has been a lot of discussion recently about whether he has offered me the right words. Given the #MeToo movement and Mr. Biden’s bid for the presidency, it’s understandable why his role in the hearings is being debated anew.If the Senate Judiciary Committee, led then by Mr. Biden, had done its job and held a hearing that showed that its members understood the seriousness of sexual harassment and other forms of sexual violence, the cultural shift we saw in 2017 after #MeToo might have began in 1991 — with the support of the government.
If the government had shown that it would treat survivors with dignity and listen to women, it could have had a ripple effect. People agitating for change would have been operating from a position of strength. It could have given institutions like the military, the Department of Education and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission greater license to take more decisive action to end the scourge of harassment. And research shows that if leaders convey that they won’t tolerate harassment, people within an organization typically obey.
Instead, far too many survivors kept their stories hidden for years.
Thousands of women and many men have shared with me their stories of being sexually harassed since my testimony 28 years ago. These stories are especially troubling because they are so common. Yet they had long gone unseen, with the public viewing behavior from sexual extortion to sexual assault as a personal issue to be dealt with in private.The world didn’t really begin to come to grips with the prevalence of sexual abuse until 2017, when the millions of survivors who became the #MeToo movement demolished the myth that sexual violence was insignificant.
The #MeToo movement taught us that it happens to people of all ages, races and ethnicities, whether poor, middle class or wealthy. While no group is immune, some groups like women of color, sexual minorities and people with disabilities are more susceptible than others. So are contract and gig-economy workers, who lack traditional employment protections. Low-income and tip workers, who might face retaliation that could mean losing their livelihood, are particularly at risk.
As the #MeToo revelations laid bare the truth of the overwhelming size of the problem, victims dared hope that our political leaders would take up the challenge of confronting it.
But that hope was dashed last year.
Christine Blasey Ford faced yet another Senate Judiciary Committee in 2018 considering yet another Supreme Court nominee, Judge Brett Kavanaugh, whom she had accused of sexual assault. And yet again, the process appeared to be concerned with political expediency more than with the truth.
After Dr. Blasey’s courageous testimony, many saw the callous and ham-handed approach of Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa, the committee’s chairman, as a replay of the Thomas hearings.
Even worse, a new generation was forced to conclude that politics trumped a basic and essential expectation: that claims of sexual abuse would be taken seriously.
Bad behavior has not gone away, notwithstanding the valiant efforts of the people in the #MeToo movement. A recent anonymous survey by the Department of Defense revealed that sexual harassment and assault in the military rose by 38 percent from 2016 to 2018. The Pentagon estimated that 13,000 women and 7,500 men were sexually assaulted in the 2018 fiscal year.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that one in three women and one in four men experience sexual violence involving physical contact during their lifetimes. And according to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, claims of sexual harassment increased by more than 12 percent from fiscal year 2017 to 2018.
It is no stretch to estimate that one in three American households are dealing with the economic, health or safety difficulties that accompany sexual violations.
Despite the grim reality, I remain hopeful, knowing how far we’ve come. If we acknowledge the severity of the problem and demand processes in which all sexual harassment and assault survivors are heard and not dismissed or punished for coming forward, our leaders will step up.
Survivors and their supporters need acknowledgment and justice. Words of condolence can never substitute for action aimed at ending the harm. There are measures that would show that our government is ready to respond to survivors.
The Senate leaders should adopt a fair and transparent process for responding to complaints raised about prospective presidential appointees with investigations conducted by an independent party.
Congress also should pass bills like the Be Heard Act, introduced in April, which would extend federal protections against sexual harassment and discrimination to contract, gig and other nontraditional workers, with special attention to low-income workers.
At a minimum, our representatives have to keep our military personnel, who pledge to protect our country, safe from sexual harassment and assault. Hard stop.
In the long term, our leaders need to address the larger inequalities that enable sexual misconduct to flourish.
Sexual violence is a national crisis that requires a national solution. We miss that point if we end the discussion at whether I should forgive Mr. Biden. This crisis calls for all leaders to step up and say: “The healing from sexual violence must begin now. I will take up that challenge.”
This’d commoners you refer to were the lowest of the low bigots I’ve ever encountered online. Did you read the comments? Nothing about HER - mostly just her race. If that’s common to you, i’m Sorry for you.
‘Diana didn’t backpedal at all, she clarified her support for the process, not the way this person dealt with it. No one on this forum knows HOW she was treated, but act like they do. It’s funny how desperate some nutcasians can be. This was WAY before TMZ came on the story.
‘’Funny how some commoners froth at the mouth over a story like this. One nutcase going apeshit making up stories right and left as if the tape was accessible. Silly peeps.
Marv's a gadfly. Getting a life outside Diana Ross might make him less bitter.
As I've said a number of times, the Forum would probably die without him because discussion would fade.
Stupid positions are taken just to provoke discussion.
We know how Marv rolls. We also know how the TSA rolls but I guess if one defends the actions of Bill Cosby, Michael Jackson, Pedro Ferrer and Ike Turner, TSA is not far behind.
Hopefully there will be a surge of last minute ticket buyers. The ladies did very well in Vegas and are hoping it could lead to something, but this is sad and, unhappily, another gig got cancelled for next Friday as the sales were really bleak. The thing is, every time a gig goes south or draws poorly, it makes it all the more problematic for them to get other gigs. Please everyone in Greater NY go see them tonight.
Oh boy, here we go again! She was ARRESTED! LOL!!!
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Diana+...36D08CB4BDA886
Was it at sugar house? I thought it was at Parx which is right outside of Philly in Bensalem.
Technically, you are right. She was arrested. [[which is unvoluntary detaining) questioned, and then let go with no charges. No charges, no collusion, no coverup.
"She has been released after being cautioned," a Scotland Yard spokeswoman said. "It is a black mark, but not a charge. That was deemed the appropriate action
Whatca doin' here? I would have thought that Mary's Number One fan would be at her concert right about now
Maybe he’s number two.
I see the school yard is very active with 5th graders today
yes, the show was cancelled
https://www1.ticketmaster.com/legend...00565A9EF853A7
Mayim Bialik is another celebrity who finds TSA real threatening.
I'll bet if the show was billed as 'Martha Reeves and the Vandellas' it would have sold better. Dr. Reeves still has some name recognition.
But it's not even about TSA for him, and that's what I was pointing out. You know he don't give a damn about TSA, he only cared that Diana Ross had a problem with them and so that automatically meant that TSA was worth defending. Diana vs bad cop, Diana vs Trump, Diana vs Isis...he'd be posting about how cops keep us safe, how Trump has done more for the Black community than any other president, and how Isis is just misunderstood rather than say "I may not like Diane, but this was wrong". The enemy of my enemy is my friend is apparently the motto, which isn't always a bad motto, but it's a weird one when your enemy is a woman you've never met.
Sometimes I close my eyes and hold my breath but it still reminds me of Norman Bates.
Marv is good [[and sometimes great) when he can be. I've actually enjoyed him on other threads but certain topics like this one in particular, we're gonna butt heads and I just decide it's best to stay out of his way, you know?
Anyway, this thread has run its course. Let it die and let's stop reviving it.
Not really. Over the years, I have seen many acts there that filled every seat, Gladys, Diana, Stylistics, Blue Magic, Johnny Mathis, the Supremes, Mc Guires Sisters in a comeback performance, and even Mary Wilson [[although with her performance they closed off one section of the theatre and kept the revolving stage stationary. The venue is one of my favorites except for the travel and traffic to get there. Its size, in the round stage, and seating emits a feeling of intimacy for the performer and the audience
The most recent time that I was there was for Johnny Mathis and he filled every available seat. Johnny is in his eighties, has not had a hit in years, and still can fill seats. That is what icons like Johnny, Diana, Bette, Cher, etc. do. Johnny appeared there again this month. He had no problem filling seats.
The venue is fine and should not be blamed for poor ticket sales. The bookers or managers have to calculate better to match performers to venues as their popularity increases or decreases.
Bookmarks