And Patti said their feud ended at one of their Oprah gatherings!
Gladness WHO????..lol
Never try to upstage the star.
Gladys and other envious fools learned the hard way.
I could throw up. “I am not a liar” claims Gladys, but lie she does in this very article.
1) There is nothing in this story to indicate Ross had an issue with Gladys’ voice - it was the rousing closer of the Current smash Grapevine that Ross felt was hard to follow with their new opener, The Symphony Medley. Gladys IS lying claiming it’s her voice. They went back to opening with YKMHO for the next few weeks.
2) Gladys is lying when she says she never held it against her - she’s done nothing but squeeze this story for publicity for decades as well as throw shade at her in her shows. LOL the purpose of this interview and story is supposed to be to plug Gladys’ new album, but 90% of it is about Ross.
3) she’s lying about being called Empress of Soul. It’s POSSIBLE that without any prompting, some nobody referred to her as Empress and Gladys ran with it, but as shady as she is, I’m fairly certain she chose it - either way, it’s not like the industry gave her the name organically like Queen Ree Or even groundswell support like Queen Mary - as some called her - when she was at Motown. No. Gladys all the sudden began using it everywhere in all her publicity and it still is so desperate sounding. I love her voice, but can can cut a butch as easy as say hello. She gives herself away when she said, “I couldn’t call myself Queen” Which indicates she was looking for a monarch her to use, and why is she even needs a moniker, except to feed her own ego, is beyond me. She is one of the greatest voices ever, that Ohta be enough!
Agree all around. Gladys also has a Streisand grudge, among others. Great talent, great show-personality - but not everyone gets what they want in life; not everyone gets to be #1. I have many wonderful memories of GK&TP live in the 70's and will keep it that way!
... I sometimes ponder ... why, oh why, does no one on this forum ever yak about Gladys disbanding from the Pips? Actually, I guess it's ... different ... than other similar situations.
I can answer that! It's because Gladys was not as mega-successful as Diana. Hence, less resentment and more jealousy correspondingly. But, still, Gladys gave a 'bye, Felicia' to the Pips when she felt it was convenient and that fact should not be ignored when discussing 'disloyal' leads going solo.
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In the US she didn't, but in Europe she had a huge hit with License to Kill, the James Bond song. I saw Gladys Knight live two years ago and was very impressed by her vocals, but she did repeat that whole story that Marvin Gaye stole her song [[which of course he didn't; she was just lucky her version was released first). The same with the Diana Ross rivalry stuff Gladys has repeated over and over again for fifty years. Boring...
After all that mess she pulled after Aretha died, I've been looking sideways at her. One of the greatest singers of all time but... ooh wee... and I still don't get her having issues with Motown when she and the Pips were at least the third most successful GROUP on the label after 1967...
I also forget she claimed Norman Whitfield used music from an unreleased Pips song for Marvin's version of I Heard It Through the Grapevine, which Marvin obviously denied and was a bold faced lie to begin with since Marvin's version was recorded MONTHS before Gladys was ever approached with it!
Let's not forget that Gladys was in the middle of a beef between Dionne Warwick and Patti LaBelle when they filmed their Sisters in the Name of Love tour....
So she can miss me with that...
Auntie Gladys, stick to singing about going on the midnight train to Georgia, child, because some of your facts concerning the other Motown legends like Miss Ross and Marvin are faulty... love your performance at Quincy's birthday show though!
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She kept saying "Marvin stole Grapevine from me". I'm like "huh????"
Also, that whole "we were given the leftovers while the Supremes and the Temptations had the top material"...
I seriously doubt it. They may have been rebels a little since they demanded the Andantes not be on their recordings but they were only given the "leftovers" their first year and a half. When "Grapevine" hit, they got the national exposure they always wanted.
And by then, the Supremes weren't always guaranteed a number one hit anymore so they only focused on their live shows and TV specials. The Miracles were starting to fade. The Four Tops were just clinging on. Martha & the Vandellas were put on the back burner. The Marvelettes were basically forgotten. It was two years before the Jackson 5 signed. The only group in Motown to have continuous hits around the time the Pips started to have hits in Motown was The Temptations. And the Pips were very consistent in that period they claimed they were "given the leftovers". In fact, Bubba Knight confirms they were able to snag "Nitty Gritty" away from...THE SUPREMES.
Left behind? What? Especially in the '70s when Diana AND the Supremes each struggled to get footing after they departed from each other. If I Were Your Woman, I Don't Want to Do Wrong, Help Me Make It Through the Night, Neither One of Us [[which made them the second Motown act to get a Grammy!!!).
[singing like the Pips in "Love Overboard"] Gladys, Gladys, GLADYS... WOO!
I was in England when LTK was indeed a big [[yet, sadly, one-off ...) hit for solo Gladys. It is indeed boring [[and quite ironic, being that certain posters here like to yak about Diana's shows not changing ...) that Gladys chooses to repeat the same stage patter for decades. But without a doubt Knight is a vocal giant.
Just occurred to me ... if one wished, one could ask Gladys about 'stealing':
'The Nitty Gritty', in 1969, after Shirley Ellis recorded it in 1964
'Help Me Make It Through the Night', in 1972, after Sammi Smith recorded it in 1972
'Midnight Train to Georgia', in 1973, after Cissy Houston recorded it in 1972
'The Way We Were', in 1975, after Barbra Streisand recorded it in 1973
'Hero' in 1983, after Lou Rawls recorded it in 1982
Hmmm ... gander, meet goose!
...and may you take time this year to figure out who you really are: Jonc/joncluckie.
Iadore her voice and have seen her since the 60s, but damn she fulla horse leavings. She just loves to whine and complain. If I could sing like that, I’d even be nice to Trump.....well, nice-ER, anyway. A voice like that still in great shape and she bitch bitch bitch ever so gently, earnestly and shadily.
that Aretha BS is exactly her MO and is maddening. But you ever hear her do wind beneath my wings live and all is forgiven. If Bette heard that, she’d never sing another note.
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Her versions often are the definite versions, particularly Midnight Train to Georgia. But also with that song she tells a story that just doesn't ring true, supposedly changing it from a plane to a train. Gladys' version is based on Cissy Houston's version, which already changed the Midnight Plane to Houston into the Midnight Train to Georgia.
This seems like"old" news again from years ago. From what I can remember when Gladys and Diana got together at the "Oprah Legendary Ball" the question was asked, "Why couldn't we get along back then ?" The response was "We had to grow up". Hopefully, Gladys has grown up and not still talking abut this. A shame some of the fans can't.
But Gladys IS still talking about this. I don’t think she’ll ever quit as the public is much more interested in Ross than her.
Something tells me she's lying about bringing the Jackson 5 to Motown too. Every member of the Jackson 5 confirmed it was Bobby Taylor, and Bobby alone, that was the cause of them going to Motown in the first place...
Hmm PeaceNHarmony deleted or edited that post about her working with Orrin Hatch. Orrin's a Mormon???
We know the Mormons have had a history of racism and homophobia in the past. Even the way they formed was strange. Their God is Joseph H. Smith or something...
I learn something new everyday on this board. I think I read the deleted post wrong and thought it said that Gladys co-wrote a song with Hatch. But what she did was participate on one of his albums by singing on it.
He has even found some modest success. He has self-released more than a dozen albums featuring professional musicians performing his work. Gladys Knight has covered his songs, as have Christian pop singers and a handful of country musicians. In 2005, he brought in more than $39,000 in royalty earnings, as the New York Times reported at the time.
An article from this week.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9eaab847944a
Wow. Say something about Diana Ross and you go down in flames!
I mean the fact Gladys turned into a Mormon was suspect enough...
Deflection is not really working on Miss Knight. Like I said, her comments on her claiming she had "the same cancer" Aretha had only to correct like hours later [[maybe a day later!) has got me to look at her sideways. So she could've kept her thoughts on Diana to herself...
Not every legend is gonna be perfect but Gladys was never no angel... her running to religion like Little Richard just makes her suspect to me, that's all.
Yea. Very logical. Lol. Gladys apparently is supposed to keep her mouth shut. That’s what bullies want. Apparently her feud with Sheryl Lee Ralph cooled off when they talked about their kids on a vacation. In Sheryl’s book.
No one is hating on Gladys for something Diana Ross did. People are hating on Gladys for using it to get press 50 years after it happened after she claims they made up and she still so desperate that she has to use that to get interviews and headlines… And for lying and always playing the victim like saying grapevine was stolen from her even though she stole all of the kinds of songs for other people and NYC saying she had the same disease that Aretha did which is the shadiest thing anyone has ever done…… That’s why . What diana ross did was not a bad thing, she was doing what was best for her group which anyone would do who had a brain. And it’s the very millions that Diana Ross and the Supremes earned for Motown that gave them the money to develop Gladys, so she should be thinking instead of hating . So quit making things up, like the Carol Burnett feud - You are getting carried away with yourself again… And honey, it ain’t pretty!
Gladys is petty claiming Marvin Gaye stole "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" from her. That drops her credibility. Diana Ross did the same thing James Brown did. But James Brown don't get as much flack as Diana. Hell, there are more stories of James trying to hijack his competitors' shows than there are of Miss Ross.
Here's one such story of James vs. the Dells:
Gladys didn't wanna get into Motown but her PIPS told her "no we going, we need the money!" Atlantic had Aretha, Dionne had her label [[Scepter). The only divas who had it as bad as her was Patti and then SHE [[Gladys) got the number one hits that had suddenly STOPPED for the Supremes [[huh, imagine that). If anyone was left behind among the '60s divas, it was Patti, not Gladys. So again, she can miss me with that...
Last edited by midnightman; 01-07-2019 at 07:50 PM.
EVERYBODY wait a gall-derned-josh-fersakin'-pooter-tootin' minute! I just remembered seeing Gladys in concert in the early 90's and, instead of her own hits, she stole xxx I mean sang:
'A House Is Not A Home', 'The End of The Road', and 'I Will Survive'! Being a saint, I'm sure she did not [[gasp, clutch pearls, reach for smelling salts) steal any of those songs either. She must, MUST, have performed the first rendition of each. Right?
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