I am curious. Did Janet Jackson ever record anything for Motown?
We saw this tour earlier in the year. My seats could have been better, but it was still a hellifying set. Too bad she didn't do "The Skin Game" when we saw her! Thanks for posting.
I just browsed through Janet's discography on Wikipedia and was surprised to see she never recorded for Motown, not one song. Any reason why?
Perhaps the reason that Janet Jackson never recorded for Motown are that by the time she made her first album [[in 1982), Michael & The Jacksons had left the company far behind [[with brother Jermaine Jackson soon to follow). Also, it's not known if Motown pursued signing Janet to the label at that time.
Janet Jackson is one of the biggest cultural icons of our time. I don't know why people wanna deny she's BIG TIME.
Maybe it was because Motown was just not very conducive to artist creativity. Strange thing, though, by the late A&M Records wasn't either. Joe Jackson probably also looked at how Motown treated artists like Teena Marie, and Janet's own brothers in earlier years and decided that Motown was not the place to go.
What kind of idiot is denying that? I swear people these days wear negativity like a badge of honor. What would possess someone to say such a thing? Obviously Janet isn't the hitmaker she was in years past, but a legend of her stature never drops below Big Time status. She'll be big time even after she's dead.
There's no way anyone in Joe's family was signing to Motown after the brothers left. Jermaine stayed obviously, and for obvious reasons, but Joe would've shut it down if Janet had even hinted about making Motown her recording home after that point. And even if Janet had become a Motown recording artist, I'm pretty sure we can all guess that she probably would've never become Janet "Miss Jackson If You're Nasty" Jackson and thus would've missed out on one of the greatest entertainers of all time.
I could not name a single Janet Jackson song.
And Perhaps the most successful artist who really doesn’t have much of a voice?
No hating! Lol. She and Jennifer and Paula!
Never ever bought a Janet Jackson record, never felt the need. She was overhyped & in the main, vocally talentless, it was the family name that got her noticed & got her big recording contracts. If I never get hear any of her tracks again, I don't think I'd notice [[& I certainly wouldn't care).
Also have the same attitude to Jenny Froblock & Paula, I'm more than happy sticking with real singers.
I've been a Janet fan for as long as I can remember. Some of her songs are on the soundtrack of my life. But my opinion of her vocally was that she probably couldn't sing. All her live stuff appeared to be prerecorded, which I figured was necessary for someone with such high energy performances, but I also felt like it was because in reality she didn't have much of a voice. I changed my mind when I saw this clip from her on Rosie Odonnell's show back in the late 90s singing "I Get So Lonely" live. Her voice alone would never be a favorite of mine. She's not one of those "sing the phone book" singers, but she did change my mind about whether she had any vocal talent, and to my ears she does.
But good singer or not, like or dislike, she's a legend and that aint changing.
With Janet's hit-making years, the focus isn't her vocal, it's about the music and the overall production of it. If you're looking for a world-class singer, she ain't it. Frankly, I don't know why people ignore everything in a recording or a stage performance except for the singing. I listen to/look at the entire package.
I have all of Janet Jackson's albums up to the "janet." album from the mid-90s. The one I listen to all the way through is "Control" from 1986. The production was courtesy of Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, as was the Rhythm Nation 1814" album, and you know the big appeal was the music itself.
The reason Janet, and many others use pre-recorded musical backing is because it's hard to sing while doing the high-energy dancing on stage. That should be obvious.
As for Janet's singing ability? She doesn't project very well. She has a naturally light, whispy voice. She can sing, though. Maybe you guys are expecting her to belt one out like Aretha Franklin or something. She's just not that kind of singer.
When I listen to music, I listen to the whole package, not just focus on one element. But, that's me. The music, instrumentation, the mix, the mastering, the performance, everything. And, to me, the vocal is just another instrument. I do not value it above all else. You may be different.
Caio!
Soulster I think it depends on the individual. Music moves everyone in different ways. I'm attracted to certain voices and certain instruments. Sure, there are songs that I love for the lyrics or for the danceability, but that's not usually what first attracts me. Janet's voice on record is pleasant enough, but my attraction to her songs really is the overall production. Jam and Lewis ultimately are the reason why I love the Control album so much. But if we're having a conversation about vocals, Janet doesn't come to my mind as a voice that I love. But her songs, particularly in the 80s and the 90s, are fantastic.
Here's my favorite Janet song.
Exactly. For me, the music is the thing. A great record is a great record. And I know that a great recording is a matter of taste. I think making a great recording is an art form.
Well, yeah! Who could really do it? Maybe MJ, James Brown. Did Fred Astaire really sing as he danced in all his classic films? [[I don't know)The reason Janet, and many others use pre-recorded musical backing is because it's hard to sing while doing the high-energy dancing on stage. That should be obvious.
I have liked and loved many kinds of voices. The terms "world-class" and "a singer's' singer" are honorable but ultimately subjective. There's a thread going on in the SDF Forum about which singers sound most like Aretha. I think Patti Labelle, at this point, may be able to "out-sang" the Queen, but Aretha's music still makes her the Queen [[imho).
When I Think of You is also my favorite by Janet. It always makes me smile.
I definitely agree. I'd add terms like "singing someone under the table" also. I think people just have an incessant need to compare people. When it comes to voices, for me, there are definitely people who can sing and people who can't. But some voices knock me out while others don't do much for me, it has nothing to do with "world class" or any of that nonsense, it's just a feeling. Smokey Robinson has a beautiful voice, but I've never been into any of his songs based on his voice. I'm just not that into it as much as I am his brilliant story telling. On the flip, Marvin Gaye could sing the alphabet while sitting on the toilet, pausing to push and grunt, and I'd listen to it. Lol Same with Diana Ross. I can listen to her sing all day long, yet Kim Weston, who definitely has some jams that I love, and a lot of people probably consider her a "superior" singer- whatever that is- just isn't a voice I crave to hear. It is what it is.
That makes sense. As a singer, I notice the voice first, unless the music comes in with enough lead time to hook me. And I'm a sucker for good piano, drums and a horn section. But there have been times that a song starts off with the music giving me what I need only to have the singer come in and I'm suddenly turned off. And then the song gets turned off. Lol
Smokey, Marvin, Diana. At their best, my favorite singers.
Re: Smokey I have to say it was his songs and his voice that caught my attention. It was 1965, the album Going To A Go Go, the four amazing singles on it. Before the album came out, with the group on the cover, I had heard The Tracks of My Tears on the radio and thought The Miracles was a girl group. Lol. [[Hey, I was a kid.) After the album, I really appreciated his songwriting. I love his voice most when he's singing his songs.
Re: MarvinMarvin is my favorite male R&B singer. I've loved his voice fromStubborn Kind of Fellow to How Sweet It Is to Grapevine to What's Going On to Let's Get It On and on too many songs to mention. Yeah, I bet he could sing the alphabet to me and I would listen. [[BTW, I really didn't need the push and grunt imagery!)
Re: Diana The soundtrack of my life. The voice I always inevitably return to. I'll say no more.
Re "terms": I understand the term "a singer's singer" as pure admiration but "singing someone under the table" is nasty and says more about the person saying it than anything else.
Sorry about the imagery Lucky! I agree with your thoughts on Marvin and Diana. Smokey is best on his own songs. His voice on it's own just doesn't move me, but in conjunction with his compositions he can't be beat. Who better to interpret his lyrics than the man himself? [[He still sounds damn good too.)
I don't know why people feel the need to compare. It's unfair to the singers. Janet's got her own uniqueness. Why compare her to Whitney or Patti??? What sense does that make, you know?
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