Just a friendly reminder to all MF members.
Tonight on ABC at 8 PM - Last Days of Michael Jackson.
Be sure to watch it. It might never be repeated. They were discovered in 1968 - 50 years ago - and started their Motown career in 1969.
Just a friendly reminder to all MF members.
Tonight on ABC at 8 PM - Last Days of Michael Jackson.
Be sure to watch it. It might never be repeated. They were discovered in 1968 - 50 years ago - and started their Motown career in 1969.
I'm quite sure that it will get repeated and released to Netflix and home video. If nothing else, it will wind up on YouTube. If you have a DVR, you can always record it. That's what I would do if I were even interested.
We all know what happened. He had an overdose of Propofol, a powerful tranquilizer that he stupidly used to help him sleep. I don't think the question has ever been fully answered on if the doctor did it, or Michael himself administered the fatal dose.
I've set my DVR
It's an ABC News special. A lot of archival ABC-owned content so not likely to be licensed to competing platform like Netflix or YouTube. MJ Estate has already issued a statement claiming copyright infringement for other content. May not be repeated or make it to ABC On Demand. Watch live or DVR it if you want to see it.
I always wondered where Diana was during Michael's darkest years. Did he push her away? Was she prominently there behind the scenes? Why didn't she publicly support her friend when he needed it the most? Was it career suicide to be too close to an accused pedophile?
Last edited by Circa 1824; 05-24-2018 at 10:20 PM.
^ I knew there was a reason I blocked you. Nothing but a troll.
Yeah, like I am the only one in the world who wondered about this.
This program is pretty interesting
I DVR'd it but probably won't watch until some time next week. Gonna enjoy the weekend festivities.
Seems I did the right thing avoiding this, it basically revealed what was already known about MJ:
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news...earned-w520754
Was there really anything else new, or just a ratings-grab?
I happen to catch most of it , I'm glad I did. Seemed pretty straight forward , not aimed at sensationalism, not out to prove or not prove anything. A review rather than an update. Hard to review this fellows life and not have mixed feelings about its complexities. An awful lot on one guy's shoulders. No wonder Michael was adamant that 'THIS IS IT!' .
And the paparazzi
was INSANE
Last edited by Boogiedown; 05-25-2018 at 02:31 PM.
Looks like the special was made for the pedestrian viewer who doesn't know a thing about MJ.
I just watched it on Hulu. I won't say that it was awful, but it was not very good. Some of it didn't even make sense and there were bold mistakes and claims made. The omissions of people that impacted his life and career were glaring. This was not a memorable special/documentary.
It was obvious that they did this on the cheap by using ABC owned canned footage. However, I was expecting a more detailed documentary on the weeks, days leading up to Michael's death. I was not expecting a jigsaw puzzle representation of his entire life. This is why I like foreign made documentaries [[Canadian and British especially) they seem to always do a better job of it.
They claimed that "I'll Be There" was the biggest selling record in Motown's history. Thanks Marv2 for posting this. This caught me completely by surprise. I did not know this. Does anyone have any doubts about this single being the biggest selling record in Motown's history?
Marv, you have an interesting statement there. I assume that if you combine the sales for both Marvin and Gladys Knight & the Pips, the combined sales would be the biggest selling SONG in Motown history. However, I wonder if each one on their own standalone would have reached this success.
What do other members think?
Also regarding the program, I was surprised that they did not interview his mother Katherine. They showed Tito speaking for about 20 seconds, but none of the other brothers except Jermaine at a press conference. There were so many people that had first hand involvement with Michael and his story, I did not see the need to have people like Toure and other ABC commentators involved as they don't know more than we do! I also did not understand the timing of this special. Was there some significance for airing it now?
The estate didn't approve of it so it's a mystery how people went about this special. Just plain fishy.
I actually spent the two hours necessary to watch this rehash of MJ's life that were ALL already in the public consciousness. Obviously, the Jackson family members weren't about participate in a broadcast that illuminated so many facets, many quite negative, of Michaels life [[especially not being financially rewarded for their participation). From what this broadcast did illustrate were some of the triumphs, and many of the failures of Michaels life...It didn't bring out anything new, especially regarding the actual biological parentage of his children and while they touted this program as answering questions about Michaels "final" days...spent little time actually focusing on what was going on inside the home at the exact time Michael was heading towards his own demise, what role Dr Murray had to do with the death, and what role Michael himself may have had, and what others who were at the scene could reveal now these years later. They instead spent a lot of time rehashing what was already part of the This Is It Documentary about the plans for the big tour, his condition at the time,and some of his drug issues past and present. I was expecting more details on his actual death and what was done, not done, and what could have been done... Pretty much a waste of time that revealed nothing that we already didn't know...
Last edited by StuBass1; 05-28-2018 at 04:48 PM.
And the fact that Michael Jackson was more than what the documentaries revealed. I mean he was our generation's Sammy Davis Jr. in terms of what he could do onstage as a singer and dancer and performer, and then as a writer and musician... he just had the "it" factor but that special rather go on hogwash about stuff that may or may not be true.
I don't think we will get a complete and honest doc on MJ until the entire family has passed. In other words: Never!
I was under the impression that "Endless Love" was the best selling, but figure Marvin's "Grapevine" has to be in the running. I would think Boyz II Men's "End of the Road" and "I'll Make Love to You" are easily in that conversation.
In Barney Ales' recent book on Motown, he wrote that Berry's dislike of the RIAA stemmed from the bootlegging of MY GUY, which resulted in the closing of the NY office as well as Raynoma Gordy's release from the company. Supposedly, when the bootlegging was discovered, it came out that the RIAA knew it was going on and didn't let Berry know about it. After that, he resolved not to deal with them.
Five years ago, I was on the UES in NYC waiting for a meeting to start. One of Berry Gordy's attorneys from the 60s was in the lobby also and jawbreaking with the receptionist. He said that Motown had two sets of books back then. He said it like a joke. Now what he actually meant, I do not know.
Well we know that when it came to the money, Gordy was probably not only taking his share but dipping into other shares as well, which is why several folks- singers and writer/producers- left the label grumbling about money and some would later sue. An accounting of Motown figures could've exposed Gordy early on to his double dipping, especially if he ever lied to an artist that their song or album didn't sale much when it fact it did.
re: I'LL BE THERE [[-wiki)
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