When Dusty Springfield passed on it, her back up singer took it on:
Fifty years ago: March 1968
Peak Billboard Hot 100 position: #26
Wonder why Dusty turned it down , her sound definitely comes through on it [[& she's providing back-up ).
When Dusty Springfield passed on it, her back up singer took it on:
Fifty years ago: March 1968
Peak Billboard Hot 100 position: #26
Wonder why Dusty turned it down , her sound definitely comes through on it [[& she's providing back-up ).
Last edited by Boogiedown; 03-15-2018 at 09:49 PM.
That was a pleasant enough sounding record. I remember it being on the radio a few times back then.
She does a nice job of it, but she was not the first to record it as Dee Dee Warwick had a much less successful single out on it in ‘66. I think it peaked at #85 on Billboard. It’s nowhere near as good as Madalyn’s version, but hers pales to Ross and Eddie who both gave stellar performances. Superb.
I prefer Dee Dee's version as much as Supremes/Tempts. Madeline's version is good too though.
Dee Dee's sounds good too. She was a great singer!
The Temptations even did a great job with the song without the Supremes! Eddie Kendricks was just the greatest!
I was gonna say that the Tempts should've done the song themselves. Would've been better. Probably an unpopular opinion in these parts but I never liked the group pairings be it Supremes and the Tempts or Supremes and the Tops... I don't know why, I just didn't.
But I think of the versions, I loved Dee Dee's most of all.
Madeline did a smart vocal on this - she keeps it soft and seductive and is all the more effective for it. I love Dee Dee Warwick but I've always felt her version was keyed a little too high for her, leaving her voice sounding strained on the upper part of the song. I guess the rationale was that the rendition would have more urgency that way. After the surprise success of Dee Dee's "I Want to Be With You", the producers should have used the softer side of her voice more effectively on the follow-up. The backing track on Warwick's version is better, though.
Last edited by smallworld; 03-16-2018 at 01:47 PM.
Gladys Knight's vocal is probably my favourite. It's a shame the arrangement on her version is a little on the bland side.
Last edited by smallworld; 03-16-2018 at 01:56 PM.
Dee Dee should've had bigger success than she did but she was always in Dionne's shadow.
Who cares about popular? You have your preferences the same as the rest of us and most of us don't mind it at all. I love the Sups/Tempts version but I suspect that if I had heard DeeDee's before the hit version, it might get the edge in my heart. As it stands they run neck and neck.
Dee Dee does sound strained and I like it that way. Where Diana and Eddie, both beautiful vocalists, sound like lovers making a declaration to one another, more as affirmation of what they both already know and feel, Dee Dee sounds like she is in action mode, using every fiber of her being to let this dude know that she gonna have his ass so he might as well stop trippin. Lol
My problem is that she sounds strained to the point of her voice sounding weak and about to give out. Like I said, it was probably deliberate, but it doesn't work for me. Your summation sounds much more like Dee Dee on "Foolish Fool", where she sounds emphatic, strong and unbridled interpretively but in control in terms of her technique. I don't think it's coincidental that Dee Dee was Grammy nominated for "Foolish Fool", but not for "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me".
I agree. I love Dee Dee and it is criminal that she did not attain more commercial success, but her version is my least favorite personally. He voice just does not sound as comfortable as it does on much of her other material. Gladys does a fine job vocally as always on her version, but for me the emotion expressed by Diana and Eddie or Madeline give those versions the edge for me, but everyone is entitled to their opinion and there is no right or wrong view.
Last edited by Bluebrock; 03-17-2018 at 04:11 AM. Reason: Not finished my post
I agree. I love Dee Dee and it is criminal that she did not attain more commercial success, but her version is my least favorite personally. He voice just does not sound as comfortable as it does on much of her other material. Gladys does a fine job vocally as always on her version, but for me the emotion expressed by Diana and Eddie or Madeline give those versions the edge for me, but everyone is entitled to their opinion and there is no right or wrong view.
Dee Dee's Foolish Fool. LOVE THAT SONG so much...
Last edited by midnightman; 03-17-2018 at 02:55 PM.
Dee Dee for me everytime ... much better than the insipid Motown versions.
^ Well I'm a Motown fan for life. If there were things I don't like from "certain artists", I let it be known and I have but that's for another topic.
Also I'm still a fan of that "certain artist" so let's not go there lol
Thanks for all the input about this song !
I'm aware of Madeline Bell because of her disco work with artists like Donna Summer, Cerrone etc..
I didn't know until recently she'd once had a hit on her own [[ and one time only) , especially by having the jump on this song that months later would become a Motown classic ! I was so impressed that's why I wanted to build this thread about this song around her.
The original Dee Dee Warwick version is also excellent. Seems impossible it didn't become a bigger crossover hit . It did reach #13 R&B. Madeline's @ #33 R&B.
I think I prefer both these versions over the Temps /Supremes one that features two shrill voices that I normally love, but in combination for me just becomes shrill overload.
Wiki says the [[prominent) background singers on Dee Dee's are Ashford & Simpson , and does anyone else think I'M GONNA MAKE YOU LOVE ME has their sound?? Possibly singing on this influenced their own future style???
And as for Madeline,
this is my favorite of hers :
Beautiful. Touches my heart each time .
Last edited by Boogiedown; 03-18-2018 at 12:33 AM.
Dee Dee returned the favour by covering "All That Love Went to Waste", which Madeline sang in the movie "A Touch of Class". Madeline's doesn't really sound like a single, though it was released on 45. I imagine it received some play on AC/Easy Listening, but not much interest at Top 40. I give this round to Warwick.
Last edited by smallworld; 03-18-2018 at 02:01 AM.
I quite like this, the title track to Miss Bell's album on RCA. I don't think it's ever received a CD release.
I had never heard the versions by Madeline Bell and Dee Dee Warwick before... they were both nice, although I preferred Dee Dee's which sticks closer to the Supremes/Tempts version I think.
Of course that version is the one I know and love, and I still love it. My fave out of the three. IMO Diana and Eddie [[and Otis, lol) are both perfect on it... love the emotion in their voices. Such a beautiful and classic song!
To answer my own question , I'll give the answer a yes , since it is Nick Ashford that then one day produces [[with Frank Wilson) the Supremes/ Temptations version using the sound of the Warwick version as its prototype.
I actually find the sentiment of the song a little creepy psycho. You can't "make" someone love you no matter how loud you wail it , and to approach a relationship with that mindset seems possessively domineering . When it comes to love , there's no forcing it , they either do or they don't, although there's every advantage to "earning" it, which is a different mindset.
Maybe that's why the Kendricks/Ross angle is more successful. You've got the two equally shouting the same intentions at each other. At least this way they are on equal footing as to where they are coming from , instead of one sounding like an obsessed stalker.
I'M GONNA MAKE YOU LOVE ME was #1 in Cashbox and Record World , but only peaked at #2 for two weeks in Billboard because of a certain spoiler [[?) that wouldn't relinquish the crown at the top . But Motown I don't think was too bothered by it.
Last edited by Boogiedown; 03-19-2018 at 04:56 PM.
Ha Ha! So while Eddie was delivering his obsession lines in the song simply from a professional stance, Diana was shrieking hers with a little more intensified passion! !
Last edited by Boogiedown; 03-19-2018 at 10:18 PM.
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