A message for Ralph and Farewell SDF

[soulster]

Guys from the post Ralph has made, once again empowering ****** it is clear to me that Ralph shares Marvin's opinions of Diana Ross, which is sad to me, because like her or not she is the face of Motown.

This will no longer be a Motown appreciation forum. Now Marvin will run with this ball and make it purely a Diana Ross bashing site, or a bashing of anyone who doesn't feel the way he does about Mary.

Have fun Ralph and Marvin.

Ralph doesn't share opinions with anyone. He's just tired of all the Marv bashing on this forum. If you don't like the guy, just don't address him. Don't mention him. Ignore him. That's all ya gotta do! Move on with your life!

The Temptations, Marvin Gaye, Commodores, The Four Tops, Rick James, Lionel Richie, The Jackson 5, and many others are also very prominent, if not dominant faces of Motown. This is not specifically a Diana Ross appreciation forum, it's a Detroit Soul Music appreciation forum. That means we can talk about Hot Wax/Invictus, Parliament/Funkadelic, Eddie Hazel, Aretha Franklin, Bob Seger, Dennis Coffey, The Dramatics, Johnnie Taylor, and even that moron Ted Nugent if you must. And, Ralph has made it clear that we can even talk about music that is not specific to Detroit or Motown. It's about music, so we can talk about audio, songwriting, engineering, and other music-related stuff. And you can even talk about you sequined gowns. You can be 100% sure that i'll never, ever participate in those kinds of threads!

All you Ross freaks can talk about Diana Ross all you want. Just be respectful, don't introduce her into threads that have nothing to do with her, and leave Marv out of it! [[BTW, when I use the word "freaks", I do not mean that in a disparaging manner.)

And, for all of you guys that have been bashing Marv, there is one member that has not yet been mentioned that should be: Roberta 75!

[Roberta75]

Ralph doesn't share opinions with anyone. He's just tired of all the Marv bashing on this forum. If you don't like the guy, just don't address him. Don't mention him. Ignore him. That's all ya gotta do! Move on with your life!

The Temptations, Marvin Gaye, Commodores, The Four Tops, Rick James, Lionel Richie, The Jackson 5, and many others are also very prominent, if not dominant faces of Motown. This is not specifically a Diana Ross appreciation forum, it's a Detroit Soul Music appreciation forum. That means we can talk about Hot Wax/Invictus, Parliament/Funkadelic, Eddie Hazel, Aretha Franklin, Bob Seger, Dennis Coffey, The Dramatics, Johnnie Taylor, and even that moron Ted Nugent if you must. And, Ralph has made it clear that we can even talk about music that is not specific to Detroit or Motown. It's about music, so we can talk about audio, songwriting, engineering, and other music-related stuff. And you can even talk about you sequined gowns. You can be 100% sure that i'll never, ever participate in those kinds of threads!

All you Ross freaks can talk about Diana Ross all you want. Just be respectful, don't introduce her into threads that have nothing to do with her, and leave Marv out of it! [[BTW, when I use the word "freaks", I do not mean that in a disparaging manner.)

And, for all of you guys that have been bashing Marv, there is one member that has not yet been mentioned that should be: Roberta 75!

If you want to address me Soulster then man up stop being so passive aggressive. You can address me directly in this here forum or you can send me a private message and I will be happy to adress your issues with me. You can also contact me via private message at Facebook.

Or or you could take your own advice youve been real quick to tell everyone else to follow. "If you don't like the girl, just don't address her. Don't mention her. Ignore her. That's all ya gotta do! Move on with your life!"

[soulster]

If you want to address me Soulster then man up stop being so passive aggressive. You can address me directly in this here forum or you can send me a private message and I will be happy to adress your issues with me. You can also contact me via private message at Facebook.

I'll do it right here: You and I don't have any issues. We seem to agree on a lot of things, especially politics. But, honestly, from what I see, you are one of the chief Marv bashers here. If you end it, you could be a leader for others in stopping it too.

Marv isn't going anywhere any more than you or me, so, it does no good to keep bashing him. I'm no fan of Marv, but i'm not an enemy, either. I just get tired of seeing this Marv bashing at every turn. Again, it isn't really just you, but several of the Ross fans here. So what if he doesn't care for Diana Ross? A lot of people don't. A lot of people have said nasty things about her on other places on the internet. I'm sure Diana Ross isn't upset about it, so why should any of you be upset?

I get my little digs in too once in a while. I freely admit it. But, it's only because I feel like this forum is overrun with unchecked Ross idol worship. It's because of all the constant bickering I see. It's because the bickering has chased the industry people, and a lot of longtime members away from this forum. I was here back in 2002, even though my screen name and account changed several years ago. I remember how it once was before the Ross/Supremes fanatics came in here.

If I had to choose my favorite female Motown singers, it would be both Brenda Holloway and Teena Marie. And, yes, I do have quite a bit of Supremes/Ross music in my collection.

I am not the enemy. No one is.

[Roberta75]

I'll do it right here: You and I don't have any issues. We seem to agree on a lot of things, especially politics. But, honestly, from what I see, you are one of the chief Marv bashers here. If you end it, you could be a leader for others in stopping it too.

Marv isn't going anywhere any more than you or me, so, it does no good to keep bashing him. I'm no fan of Marv, but i'm not an enemy, either. I just get tired of seeing this Marv bashing at every turn. Again, it isn't really just you, but several of the Ross fans here. So what if he doesn't care for Diana Ross? A lot of people don't. A lot of people have said nasty things about on other places on the internet. I'm sure Diana Ross isn't upset about it, so why should any of you be upset?

If Marv stopped ruining every darned Diane Ross thread with negative comments day after day after day youd never See me adress him. Its real tired and we all get it that he doesnt like Diane. So stop entering her threads with horrible comments. I dont care for Gladys Knight but you wont find me in Gladys Knight threads trashing her. Why? Because she doesnt mean anything to me so Im not going to spend my energy on the woman. I wish Miss Knight well but Id never spend a nickel on her concerts or albums.

Ralph Sid the following in August of 2014 in this here forum

"Since I can't and won't ban any threads relating to all of the fine and talented women who are, or once were, part of the Supremes, I can play a little hard ball with anyone who creates a problem. Even the slightest. I will immediately delete the thread and PERMANENTLY ban the instigatorSo from this point on, any Supreme, Mary, Diana threads are to be interesting, informative and RESPECTFULL"

i dont see this happening and the main culprit who all but ruins every Diane Ross thread is given a free pass over and over and over again. Oh well its not my forum but it sure seems odd IMO that the rules above get bent to protect some members.

i than you for your comment to me.

yours, with every good wish.

Roberta

[soulster]

If Marv stopped ruining every darned Diane Ross thread with negative comments day after day after day youd never See me adress him. Its real tired and we all get it that he doesnt like Diane. So stop entering her threads with horrible comments. I dont care for Gladys Knight but you wont find me in Gladys Knight threads trashing her. Why? Because she doesnt mean anything to me so Im not going to spend my energy on the woman. I wish Miss Knight well but Id never spend a nickel on her concerts or albums.

Ralph Sid the following in August of 2014 in this here forum

"Since I can't and won't ban any threads relating to all of the fine and talented women who are, or once were, part of the Supremes, I can play a little hard ball with anyone who creates a problem. Even the slightest. I will immediately delete the thread and PERMANENTLY ban the instigatorSo from this point on, any Supreme, Mary, Diana threads are to be interesting, informative and RESPECTFULL"

i dont see this happening and the main culprit who all but ruins every Diane Ross thread is given a free pass over and over and over again. Oh well its not my forum but it sure seems odd IMO that the rules above get bent to protect some members.

i than you for your comment to me.

yours, with every good wish.

Roberta

I'm not saying you're wrong, but if I do dare to look at those threads, I do not see Marv starting the shit. If he is, he should stop it too.

Ralph isn't banning either one of you. He's not playing favorites. He's not going to ban him on your say-so, and he's not going to ban you on his say-so. But, I see a lot of Marv bashing from the Ross fans here. Apparently, so does Ralph. If I am wrong, show me some examples.


Whenever people bash Diana Ross around here, she's not really the target. It's the Ross fans that the aim is for. That should tell you something!

I will gladly end my dig at you guys if you just use a bit of constraint with the Ross/Supremes discussions. Marv and I should not bash you guys, and you should not bash Marv or me.

The bottom line for me is that the industry people are no longer here because of all the interpersonal crap constantly going on. That's unfortunate. I like to see a nice, diverse mix of discussions about all kinds of things, especially the technical side of things!

I just don't like seeing endless Ross/Supremes threads when I log in here, or bait and switch thread titles, and I think some of the Ross fans do that to annoy everyone else. That is the kind of thing I wish Ralph would crack down on, but, as is pointed out, it's his forum.

I propose that from this point forward, we all start from scratch. Pretend this is a brand new forum and that none of us know about the other.

[RobertZ]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but if I do dare to look at those threads, I do not see Marv starting the shit. If he is, he should stop it too.

Ralph isn't banning either one of you. He's not playing favorites. He's not going to ban him on your say-so, and he's not going to ban you on his say-so. But, I see a lot of Marv bashing from the Ross fans here. Apparently, so does Ralph. If I am wrong, show me some examples.


Whenever people bash Diana Ross around here, she's not really the target. It's the Ross fans that the aim is for. That should tell you something!

I will gladly end my dig at you guys if you just use a bit of constraint with the Ross/Supremes discussions. Marv and I should not bash you guys, and you should not bash Marv or me.

The bottom line for me is that the industry people are no longer here because of all the interpersonal crap constantly going on. That's unfortunate. I like to see a nice, diverse mix of discussions about all kinds of things, especially the technical side of things!

I just don't like seeing endless Ross/Supremes threads when I log in here, or bait and switch thread titles, and I think some of the Ross fans do that to annoy everyone else. That is the kind of thing I wish Ralph would crack down on, but, as is pointed out, it's his forum.

I propose that from this point forward, we all start from scratch. Pretend this is a brand new forum and that none of us know about the other.

The "I propose..." part is wise; I only offer that since I have built my "Ignore" list the forum has again [[for me) been a pleasant place to visit.

[Roberta75]

The "I propose..." part is wise; I only offer that since I have built my "Ignore" list the forum has again [[for me) been a pleasant place to visit.

Very wise my dear RobertZ. Im placing someone on permanent ignore as well.

have a blessed and beautiful Sunday.

yours, with every good wish.

Roberta

[Roberta75]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but if I do dare to look at those threads, I do not see Marv starting the shit. If he is, he should stop it too.

Ralph isn't banning either one of you. He's not playing favorites. He's not going to ban him on your say-so, and he's not going to ban you on his say-so. But, I see a lot of Marv bashing from the Ross fans here. Apparently, so does Ralph. If I am wrong, show me some examples.


Whenever people bash Diana Ross around here, she's not really the target. It's the Ross fans that the aim is for. That should tell you something!

I will gladly end my dig at you guys if you just use a bit of constraint with the Ross/Supremes discussions. Marv and I should not bash you guys, and you should not bash Marv or me.

The bottom line for me is that the industry people are no longer here because of all the interpersonal crap constantly going on. That's unfortunate. I like to see a nice, diverse mix of discussions about all kinds of things, especially the technical side of things!

I just don't like seeing endless Ross/Supremes threads when I log in here, or bait and switch thread titles, and I think some of the Ross fans do that to annoy everyone else. That is the kind of thing I wish Ralph would crack down on, but, as is pointed out, it's his forum.

I propose that from this point forward, we all start from scratch. Pretend this is a brand new forum and that none of us know about the other.

The remaining threads that have not been deleted speaks for themself when it comes to seeing who starts the sh*t as you said but the good Lord gave me eyes and opened them for me to see all. Im not the smartest person on this here forum but I can plainly see a person with an unhealthy obsession with Diane Ross and the nasty comments they make. There can be a thousand Diane Ross or Supremes threads its our choice if we decide to click on them. I avoid about 50% of them. Dr Martha Reeves is my favorite performer ever but Diane Ross is one he Heck of a great perfumer and singer. I am fully prepared To move forward and start fresh.

I end with these here words that I try to live by. "One great power of sin is that it blinds men so that they do not recognize its true character. In faith there is enough light for those who want to believe and enough shadows to blind those who don’t.The eyes are useless when the mind is blind"

fondly,

Roberta

[thanxal]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but if I do dare to look at those threads, I do not see Marv starting the shit. If he is, he should stop it too.
.

I have been watching. He has been very disruptive. And he gets away with it every time.
And then acts innocent, as if he did nothing but "express an opinion". He hijacked the Ike Turner thread, the Susaye Greene thread and so many more its pathetic. And please note that I'm decidedly not a huge Diana Ross fan.

What would happen if I posted nasty, vile comments repeatedly about Mary Wilson on threads that had nothing to do with her? I would bet that I would get banned. But I would never do such a thing since I respect ALL Motown artists. The fact that a site supposedly devoted to keeping the spirit of Motown alive degenerates into such nastiness about ANY of its artists is sad.

Enjoy your forum. Its become the Marv2 show and not worth bothering with anymore. I do have a choice and I choose not to hang around here anymore. I'll find someplace else to get my Motown fix.