Bobby Taylor and the Jackson five

[dvus7]

From my understanding, Bobby Taylor has "felt" jilted by the Jackson, based upon his discovery. IMO, Mr. Taylor was compensated above and beyond for "his" discovery!!! Most of the unreleased material of them are they ones that Mr. Taylor produced!!!

[marv2]

From my understanding, Bobby Taylor has "felt" jilted by the Jackson, based upon his discovery. IMO, Mr. Taylor was compensated above and beyond for "his" discovery!!! Most of the unreleased material of them are they ones that Mr. Taylor produced!!!

Oh no, no he hasn't been compensated! It is a tragedy ,abhorration in my opinion. Bobby has never been formally or even informally thanked by any of Jacksons for his contribution in helping them reach fame and fortune!

[dvus7]

@ marv...Are u telling me he ws never compensated for producing all those "covers" that he produced??? The Jacksons are not responsible for paying him..Motown is

[marv2]

@ marv...Are u telling me he ws never compensated for producing all those "covers" that he produced??? The Jacksons are not responsible for paying him..Motown is

Nope! I meant that NONE of the Jacksons has even told Bobby thank you or shown any other form of appreciation once they were in California and hitting it big. This is according to Bobby himself.

[midnightman]

Nope! I meant that NONE of the Jacksons has even told Bobby thank you or shown any other form of appreciation once they were in California and hitting it big. This is according to Bobby himself.

That is true. Bobby told Mojo magazine several years back [[probably 2001, 2002-ish) that one of his daughters had worked with Michael on either some video or some recording and said MJ kept staring at her. Finally the woman approached him and asked "do you know who my father is and how you used to babysit me" or something to that effect. It was then that MJ was all like "oh yeah you're Bobby Taylor's daughter, will you tell him thank you for everything?" When Bobby's daughter told him this, he was stunned to say the least that one of the most famous entertainers in pop music had forgot to thank him in person. Then he remembered Berry Gordy's comments when Gordy told him when the Jacksons became famous, they would forget about him. He [[Gordy) was right apparently.

[marv2]

That is true. Bobby told Mojo magazine several years back [[probably 2001, 2002-ish) that one of his daughters had worked with Michael on either some video or some recording and said MJ kept staring at her. Finally the woman approached him and asked "do you know who my father is and how you used to babysit me" or something to that effect. It was then that MJ was all like "oh yeah you're Bobby Taylor's daughter, will you tell him thank you for everything?" When Bobby's daughter told him this, he was stunned to say the least that one of the most famous entertainers in pop music had forgot to thank him in person. Then he remembered Berry Gordy's comments when Gordy told him when the Jacksons became famous, they would forget about him. He [[Gordy) was right apparently.

Midnightman, thank you! That is what I remember hearing Bobby Taylor say in an interview from Hong Kong that was posted here about a year ago.

[midnightman]

Midnightman, thank you! That is what I remember hearing Bobby Taylor say in an interview from Hong Kong that was posted here about a year ago.

Yeah I remember that Hong Kong interview. People may think he's bitter but he has his reasons for that. I'd be upset too if I went through pins and needles [[and broken glass) to get a group of talented kids signed to a label that initially wasn't paying them any attention and all I got was a pat on the back for a job well done. It's one thing to get money but if you don't get respect, what's all that money worth?

[midnightman]

@ marv...Are u telling me he ws never compensated for producing all those "covers" that he produced??? The Jacksons are not responsible for paying him..Motown is

There's a difference between being financially compensated and being personally compensated. He got the money, just not the love back from the Jacksons after all he had done for them. Most of them would thank Gladys Knight [[who didn't get them signed to Motown) but you hardly see anything about Bobby Taylor. I don't think they interviewed him for that MJ documentary that came out a few years ago but they were sure to call up Gladys. I think he was only mentioned a few times, if any, by Michael and Marlon but that was back in 1980 when they were interviewed for the "Triumph" album or something. Bobby himself got the Jacksons [[mainly MJ) signed but whenever the Jacksons thank anyone, they thank the one who discovered them but failed to sign them. That's quite ironically sad.

[marv2]

There's a difference between being financially compensated and being personally compensated. He got the money, just not the love back from the Jacksons after all he had done for them. Most of them would thank Gladys Knight [[who didn't get them signed to Motown) but you hardly see anything about Bobby Taylor. I don't think they interviewed him for that MJ documentary that came out a few years ago but they were sure to call up Gladys. I think he was only mentioned a few times, if any, by Michael and Marlon but that was back in 1980 when they were interviewed for the "Triumph" album or something. Bobby himself got the Jacksons [[mainly MJ) signed but whenever the Jacksons thank anyone, they thank the one who discovered them but failed to sign them. That's quite ironically sad.

And instead of having Bobby Taylor share in their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they had Diana Ross do it!

[midnightman]

And instead of having Bobby Taylor share in their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they had Diana Ross do it!

Yup. And if I recall, none of them thank him during the Hall of Fame induction. So he was clearly absent. That's why Bobby's pissed.

[marv2]

Yup. And if I recall, none of them thank him during the Hall of Fame induction. So he was clearly absent. That's why Bobby's pissed.

Wouldn't it have been just the greatest moment in the Rock Hall's history to have Bobby there to give an emotion speech with the details of how he help them get signed to Motown?

[thomas96]

Michael didn't forget about Bobby, or not thank him... Bobby stayed in touch with Michael all the way up to his death, and Michael would call him and ask for advice. On another note, Bobby did not get ANY credit from Motown, or the Jacksons [[publicly, not sure if any other than Michael thanked him or showed appreciation privately or not). And Bobby NEVER got the money he deserved from those productions. He's gotten no royalties on "I Want You Back," "ABC," "The Love You Save," or "I'll Be There" -- all of which he had a part in writing and producing.

[stephanie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2HgGwBUkkY

Jermaine did not forget Bobby Taylor or Bobby Taylor watch this! They even remembered the Corporation and Deke Richards.

[marv2]

Stephanie, Marlon did not forget to mention Bobby either here on the Late Show with Arsenio Hall. He mentions Bobby at 4:14 in this clip. The problem is, they never remembered to thank Bobby for anything personally to his face, by letter or over the phone!

[marv2]

Heck, if I ever become famous, I am thanking everybody from Miss Harste my first teacher to Soulful Detroit! LOL!!!

[midnightman]

^ You always have those people who say "if you ever get famous, don't forget to mention me." Lol Evelyn LaHaie's name doesn't get mentioned much and she's the reason the group became the "Jackson Five".

[jaybs]

People get far too emotional with matters like this, and memories can soon fade, I find it sad when people want to claim, they did or didn't thank me, anything like that I would want keep personal.

[dvus7]

People get far too emotional with matters like this, and memories can soon fade, I find it sad when people want to claim, they did or didn't thank me, anything like that I would want keep personal.

When I started this tread!!! My intentions was to talk about Bobby Taylor being PAID!!! IMO, he ws paid in Full by MOTOWN, for his discovery!!! Motown had close to 400 hundred songs that were produced by Bobby Taylor on the J-5!!!

[midnightman]

When I started this tread!!! My intentions was to talk about Bobby Taylor being PAID!!! IMO, he ws paid in Full by MOTOWN, for his discovery!!! Motown had close to 400 hundred songs that were produced by Bobby Taylor on the J-5!!!

Calm down there. Lol Bobby Taylor produced roughly 20 songs on them.

[thomas96]

Calm down there. Lol Bobby Taylor produced roughly 20 songs on them.

More like 50-60 all produced in Detroit, and he did co-production work in LA on their first 4 hits, ABC, I Want You Back, I'll Be There, and The Love You Save -- which he didn't get credited for, or paid royalties for.

[midnightman]

More like 50-60 all produced in Detroit, and he did co-production work in LA on their first 4 hits, ABC, I Want You Back, I'll Be There, and The Love You Save -- which he didn't get credited for, or paid royalties for.

Then in that case, that's even more upsetting... thanks for correcting. Bobby got dissed by everybody smh

[thomas96]

When I started this tread!!! My intentions was to talk about Bobby Taylor being PAID!!! IMO, he ws paid in Full by MOTOWN, for his discovery!!! Motown had close to 400 hundred songs that were produced by Bobby Taylor on the J-5!!!

He was paid for the session work ONLY on songs that were released. BG had told Bobby that they had planned to release 3 albums of Bobby's stuff on the J5 and it ended up being about a a dozen and a half songs being released through their first 2 albums instead of what should've been over 30. BG basically dumped Bobby out in the streets, stole the Jackson boys and brought them to LA to record with the Corporation. Bobby co-wrote and co-produced ABC, I Want You Back, The Love You Save, and I'll Be There and didn't get a dime for them, or any credit whatsoever. And even the songs he did write/produce he didn't get any royalties for later on. Bobby got completely screwed over, said "fuck Motown" and left.

[midnightman]

He was paid for the session work ONLY on songs that were released. BG had told Bobby that they had planned to release 3 albums of Bobby's stuff on the J5 and it ended up being about a a dozen and a half songs being released through their first 2 albums instead of what should've been over 30. BG basically dumped Bobby out in the streets, stole the Jackson boys and brought them to LA to record with the Corporation. Bobby co-wrote and co-produced ABC, I Want You Back, The Love You Save, and I'll Be There and didn't get a dime for them, or any credit whatsoever. And even the songs he did write/produce he didn't get any royalties for later on. Bobby got completely screwed over, said "fuck Motown" and left.

Wow. So you mean to tell me that he continued to work for them during the period they found fame and he got screwed out of being credited and paid? Wow. What year did he leave Motown? '72?

[thomas96]

Wow. So you mean to tell me that he continued to work for them during the period they found fame and he got screwed out of being credited and paid? Wow. What year did he leave Motown? '72?

In 1970 before The Love You Save was released he was sent back to Detroit to work on his own career by BG, which then dwindled out because of a lack of promotion, and he left I'd say in early 1971. He got paid very little for the hours he spent in the studio, and made no more money other than that. Then he went and did some work for a couple different labels including Philly International and Playboy. After that, he couldn't find work and had to live with his mother, and around the late '70s he had his first throat cancer surgery. He was in Beijing a couple of years with a studio he opened, and that ended because of some government restrictions, which then led him to Hong Kong, where he still is now. He's had 3 throat surgeries and at 80 is still performing 3 times a week. The man truly deserves to be a star, and in Hong Kong he is treated like one. It's really too bad people in the states didn't appreciate him, or hear his music because of lack of production.

[marv2]

Wow. So you mean to tell me that he continued to work for them during the period they found fame and he got screwed out of being credited and paid? Wow. What year did he leave Motown? '72?

Um hum, Yeah! Now let's all go see "Motown.....the Musical" doo dah~! LOL!

[marv2]

To add insult to injury, Bobby Taylor was not invited to "Motown 25" nor were he and the Vancouvers even mentioned or had their image shown during the television special........

[thomas96]

To add insult to injury, Bobby Taylor was not invited to "Motown 25" nor were he and the Vancouvers even mentioned or had their image shown during the television special........

And none of the Funks were mentioned, OR important artists like the Marvelettes, Jimmy Ruffin, Edwin Starr, Marv Johnson, the Contours, Gladys & the Pips. James Jamerson had to scalp a damn ticket to see the special. BG didn't give a shit about anyone who helped make Motown happen except Smokey and "Ms. Ross."

[marv2]

And none of the Funks were mentioned, OR important artists like the Marvelettes, Jimmy Ruffin, Edwin Starr, Marv Johnson, the Contours, Gladys & the Pips. James Jamerson had to scalp a damn ticket to see the special. BG didn't give a shit about anyone who helped make Motown happen except Smokey and "Ms. Ross."

They never mentioned Florence Ballard by name during the broadcast. Mary Wilson did mention her in an impromptu speech that Suzanne DePasse had edited out of the broadcast.

[supremester]

Berry had very little to do with Motown 25 - it was Suzanne DePasse. It sucks that she didn't include everyone on the guest list. I'm still smh that The Marvelettes were left off the bill. How is that possible? They could have been given 3 minutes to do Postman, Beachwood and Don't Mess with Bill. Ditto Martha with Heat Wave and Dancing in The Street - also Queen Mary with Two Lovers and My Guy. Mary & The Marvelettes were essential to Motown surviving the early, cash poor years. They were deserving of better, but that was Suzanne, not Berry. Both acts get their props in Motown Musical.

And none of the Funks were mentioned, OR important artists like the Marvelettes, Jimmy Ruffin, Edwin Starr, Marv Johnson, the Contours, Gladys & the Pips. James Jamerson had to scalp a damn ticket to see the special. BG didn't give a shit about anyone who helped make Motown happen except Smokey and "Ms. Ross."

[carole cucumber]

And none of the Funks were mentioned, OR important artists like the Marvelettes, Jimmy Ruffin, Edwin Starr, Marv Johnson, the Contours, Gladys & the Pips. .."

A couple of points-

In the video segments following Smokey Robinson's 'Motown finishing school' comments, the Marvelettes [[dance moves during Don't Mess With Bill and a 1964 clip performing Please Mr. Postman) are featured as are Gladys Knight & the Pips [[Friendship Train & a Motortown Revue performance )

Some artists may not have been invited due to circumstances. The Marvelettes
had disbanded during a time of considerable tension among members. Wanda's proposed solo album was marketed as by The Marvelettes- Kat rightly refusing to pose for a cover shot of the album on which she had not been invited to sing. Wanda had experienced personal and family tragedies and was likely not in the best of mental heath.
If asked, would they have been able to regroup?...Would they have wanted to?
Jimmy Ruffin... His brother David had just participated in a Temptations' reunion, that according to many accounts started well but ended badly. Would Jimmy appear if David were not invited? Would Motown have to be concerned that David might suddenly appear [[unrehearsed) onstage during the the Temps vs. Tops medley- as David was known to do during some of Dennis' early engagements as a Temptation?
Gladys Knight/the Pips in the late 1970's branched out as 2 separate units. The public wondered if there was any undercurrent of family friction. When they came together again in 1980 they said that there hadn't been. But some still wondered..
At the time of Motown 25, both Edwin Starr and Jimmy Ruffin were residing in Great Britain. Considering that Motown 25 was also a fundraiser, I'm not sure what monies may have been budgeted for transportation by NBC.
According to the Countours with Joe Billingslea's website, Joe revived the group [[ although he does not state who the members were) in 1971 "playing a few dates here and there". Finally by 1981, the group with Council Gay and 3 members who were not part of the group signed to Motown began to play " a lot more dates". How many is a lot more? And how did they fare in keeping alive the same energy/showmanship that was the Contours at Motown?
Sadly , Marv Johnson, after his mid-60's return to Motown, had taken jobs in sales & promotion.
I'm not here championing their non-involvement in Motown 25; I'm only trying to see if there might have been extenuating circumstances that could have steered some from putting them on an official list, if there even was such a list at the time.

[marv2]

A couple of points-

In the video segments following Smokey Robinson's 'Motown finishing school' comments, the Marvelettes [[dance moves during Don't Mess With Bill and a 1964 clip performing Please Mr. Postman) are featured as are Gladys Knight & the Pips [[Friendship Train & a Motortown Revue performance )

Some artists may not have been invited due to circumstances. The Marvelettes
had disbanded during a time of considerable tension among members. Wanda's proposed solo album was marketed as by The Marvelettes- Kat rightly refusing to pose for a cover shot of the album on which she had not been invited to sing. Wanda had experienced personal and family tragedies and was likely not in the best of mental heath.
If asked, would they have been able to regroup?...Would they have wanted to?
Jimmy Ruffin... His brother David had just participated in a Temptations' reunion, that according to many accounts started well but ended badly. Would Jimmy appear if David were not invited? Would Motown have to be concerned that David might suddenly appear [[unrehearsed) onstage during the the Temps vs. Tops medley- as David was known to do during some of Dennis' early engagements as a Temptation?
Gladys Knight/the Pips in the late 1970's branched out as 2 separate units. The public wondered if there was any undercurrent of family friction. When they came together again in 1980 they said that there hadn't been. But some still wondered..
At the time of Motown 25, both Edwin Starr and Jimmy Ruffin were residing in Great Britain. Considering that Motown 25 was also a fundraiser, I'm not sure what monies may have been budgeted for transportation by NBC.
According to the Countours with Joe Billingslea's website, Joe revived the group [[ although he does not state who the members were) in 1971 "playing a few dates here and there". Finally by 1981, the group with Council Gay and 3 members who were not part of the group signed to Motown began to play " a lot more dates". How many is a lot more? And how did they fare in keeping alive the same energy/showmanship that was the Contours at Motown?
Sadly , Marv Johnson, after his mid-60's return to Motown, had taken jobs in sales & promotion.
I'm not here championing their non-involvement in Motown 25; I'm only trying to see if there might have been extenuating circumstances that could have steered some from putting them on an official list, if there even was such a list at the time.

The above is all hogwash! It is desperate spinning in order to defend Suzanne DePasse utter disrespect for just about anything connecting Motown to it's true roots in Detroit!

[carole cucumber]

The above is all hogwash! It is desperate spinning in order to defend Suzanne DePasse utter disrespect for just about anything connecting Motown to it's true roots in Detroit!

So, according to your response, the video segments of the Marvelettes and Gladys Knight & the Pips that attendees and viewers of the broadcast saw wasn't them???? You said 'the above is all hogwash'. Then who were those imposters???? Those gals sure looked, sang & danced like the Marvelous Marvelettes; that fabulous female singer and her 3 male backups sure did one fantastic job of impersonating Gladys Knight & the Pips. Then tell us, Marv, the real truth, [[as you see it) who were they??????

[smark21]

Poor Bobby Taylor! Why did Berry hate him so much? Did Miss Ross dislike him as well?

[marv2]

Poor Bobby Taylor! Why did Berry hate him so much? Did Miss Ross dislike him as well?

Yes Diane disliked him and he, from his interviews very much disliked her.

[thomas96]

Poor Bobby Taylor! Why did Berry hate him so much? Did Miss Ross dislike him as well?

I wouldn't say BG hated him, I just think he had no feelings towards him whatsoever and just did what was best for himself. I don't know if Ms Ross didn't like him, but she definitely thought she was better than him.

[marv2]

I wouldn't say BG hated him, I just think he had no feelings towards him whatsoever and just did what was best for himself. I don't know if Ms Ross didn't like him, but she definitely thought she was better than him.

Well Berry had to force her to go and see him and the band at the Cave in Vancouver. According to Bobby, she just sat there through their show frowning and acting bored. If someone did that to her, she'd have a fit! He calls her a "scub"! LOL!

[thomas96]

Well Berry had to force her to go and see him and the band at the Cave in Vancouver. According to Bobby, she just sat there through their show frowning and acting bored. If someone did that to her, she'd have a fit! He calls her a "scub"! LOL!

Exactly, but I wouldn't consider that hating him. That, to me, is a clear example of her thinking she's better than him. I can picture her saying to BG, "Why in the world should I go see those gosh darn losers?" He's called her a whole lot more than a "scrub"!!!

[marv2]

Exactly, but I wouldn't consider that hating him. That, to me, is a clear example of her thinking she's better than him. I can picture her saying to BG, "Why in the world should I go see those gosh darn losers?" He's called her a whole lot more than a "scrub"!!!

I know he has, but in an effort to keep from being excessively attacked by her fans, I will refrain from repeating some of the things Bobby [[and others) have said about her.

[dvus7]

Poor Bobby Taylor! Why did Berry hate him so much? Did Miss Ross dislike him as well?

@ smark 21...This tread was not started to end up as conversation about Diana Ross!!!!!PLEAE STAY ON TOPIC!!!

[Lulu]

@ smark 21...This tread was not started to end up as conversation about Diana Ross!!!!!PLEAE STAY ON TOPIC!!!

LOL dvus7...doesn't it always turn into a tarring & feathering of Miss Ross? Maybe that's why she wears that key lime feathered coat! Armor!

BTW, LOVE Spectrum's Bobby Taylor 2CD release from a few years back - some really stellar covers and not just the usual 'album filler' --- you can still get it for a good price on an Amazon seller's shops!

[marv2]

@ smark 21...This tread was not started to end up as conversation about Diana Ross!!!!!PLEAE STAY ON TOPIC!!!

There you go Dvus7!!!! Good idea.

[Jimi LaLumia]

it's a dog eat dog world and it ain't no lie..
and in all honesty, the only reason I paid attention to The Jackson 5 at the beginning was thanks to the 'Diana Ross Presents..' thing... me and a million others, so it obviously worked.. and MOTOWN: THE MUSICAL is a 'jukebox musical', one of the most successful ever..all the details of who was who means nothing to the average person in the audience..they just wanna sing,wanna dance and boo ga loo down Broadway, baybeeeee..

[Lulu]

it's a dog eat dog world and it ain't no lie..
and in all honesty, the only reason I paid attention to The Jackson 5 at the beginning was thanks to the 'Diana Ross Presents..' thing... me and a million others, so it obviously worked.. and MOTOWN: THE MUSICAL is a 'jukebox musical', one of the most successful ever..all the details of who was who means nothing to the average person in the audience..they just wanna sing,wanna dance and boo ga loo down Broadway, baybeeeee..

Yeah, I can't say I would have jumped all over them either without seeing her introduce them on television. It was 45 years ago and business - nowadays record execs would have gladly showcased a lesser-known, earthier artist to do the deed.

As for the musical, I haven't seen it yet but haven't heard anything negative from the MOTOWN folks I keep in touch with - all of them seem pretty happy that it's hit the stage and has been such a success!

[midnightman]

it's a dog eat dog world and it ain't no lie..
and in all honesty, the only reason I paid attention to The Jackson 5 at the beginning was thanks to the 'Diana Ross Presents..' thing... me and a million others, so it obviously worked.. and MOTOWN: THE MUSICAL is a 'jukebox musical', one of the most successful ever..all the details of who was who means nothing to the average person in the audience..they just wanna sing,wanna dance and boo ga loo down Broadway, baybeeeee..

So I Want You Back didn't immediately hip you to them? LOL

[Jimi LaLumia]

it's a dog eat dog world and it ain't no lie..
and in all honesty, the only reason I paid attention to The Jackson 5 at the beginning was thanks to the 'Diana Ross Presents..' thing... me and a million others, so it obviously works.. and MOTOWN: THE MUSICAL is a 'jukebox musical', one of the most successful ever..all the details of who was who means nothing to the average person the audience..they just wanna sing,wanna dance and boo ga loo down Broadway, baybeeeee..

[marv2]

it's a dog eat dog world and it ain't no lie..
and in all honesty, the only reason I paid attention to The Jackson 5 at the beginning was thanks to the 'Diana Ross Presents..' thing... me and a million others, so it obviously works.. and MOTOWN: THE MUSICAL is a 'jukebox musical', one of the most successful ever..all the details of who was who means nothing to the average person the audience..they just wanna sing,wanna dance and boo ga loo down Broadway, baybeeeee..

The only reason we paid attention to the Jackson 5 was because they were GOOD! We loved the song "I Want You Back". Most people hated Diana Ross at the time and could not wait for her to get out of the Supremes, sooooooo.....

Motown, the Musical is a fairytale joke! The average person believes beer is a vegatable so that is not saying much!

[marv2]

Now Jobeterob, if you keep bringing her up in every thread that has nothing to do with her, then I have TONS of glorious stories about "Miss Ross".

[thomas96]

The only reason we paid attention to the Jackson 5 was because they were GOOD! We loved the song "I Want You Back". Most people hated Diana Ross at the time and could not wait for her to get out of the Supremes, sooooooo.....

Motown, the Musical is a fairytale joke! The average person believes beer is a vegatable so that is not saying much!

Marv, I agree with you on so many points, it's crazy. I heard I Want You Back on the radio and I never loved it. Then I got their first album as a gift, and stored it away for a while before taking a listen to it, and once I finally did, oh man. Mikey's little voice is so amazing on every single one of those tracks. I saw them on specials with Ms Ross, but that was not what drew me in, it was Mikey's voice. I also remember hearing a radio interview with Bobby and he was talking about how he had actually discovered the Jackson 5 and the DJ was tearing him apart about it saying he was lying. I believed him then and it's very clear now what the truth is.

And marv, you are also right about Motown the Musical. It's pure Broadway...fairytale broadway. Like you said, the average person would jump off a bridge if everyone else did it.

[marv2]

Marv, I agree with you on so many points, it's crazy. I heard I Want You Back on the radio and I never loved it. Then I got their first album as a gift, and stored it away for a while before taking a listen to it, and once I finally did, oh man. Mikey's little voice is so amazing on every single one of those tracks. I saw them on specials with Ms Ross, but that was not what drew me in, it was Mikey's voice. I also remember hearing a radio interview with Bobby and he was talking about how he had actually discovered the Jackson 5 and the DJ was tearing him apart about it saying he was lying. I believed him then and it's very clear now what the truth is.

And marv, you are also right about Motown the Musical. It's pure Broadway...fairytale broadway. Like you said, the average person would jump off a bridge if everyone else did it.

Thomas, I can remember first seeing them on the Hollywood Palace back in 1969. That appearance had no impact on us. A few months later they appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show and BAM! We all liked them and they knocked us out with "Who's Lovin' You", along with " I Want You Back" that night. The next day they were the talk of the school. Even my mom and dad liked their record. For the next few months following that Ed Sullivan Show, we'd sing "I Want You Back" on the school bus until Betty the bus driver would make us all shut up! LOL!!!!

[Roberta75]

Thomas, I can remember first seeing them on the Hollywood Palace back in 1969. That appearance had no impact on us. A few months later they appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show and BAM! We all liked them and they knocked us out with "Who's Lovin' You", along with " I Want You Back" that night. The next day they were the talk of the school. Even my mom and dad liked their record. For the next few months following that Ed Sullivan Show, we'd sing "I Want You Back" on the school bus until Betty the bus driver would make us all shut up! LOL!!!!

hehehehehehehehehehehe. you tell the funniest story marv2. Betty the bus driver is a real cute title for a childrens book.

Roberta