It's been said that in 1966 [[?) / 1967 [[?) Berry Gordy wanted to present the Supremes at the Copacabana sans Flo Ballard. Not sure if this means Marlene Barrow would have stepped in? The story goes that Jules Podell said NO. This tells me that Podell was a man that got exactly what he wanted. He sure made Mr. Gordy listen.

So my question is: was Podell a Flo Ballard fan? If so, why didn't he have her appear at his Copa in 1968 after Flo starting releasing solo material? You could say that Berry might have "blacklisted" the Copa from his artists for future engagements, but wasn't the Copa THE place to be? Berry wouldn't have been THAT foolish? Certainly Podell had what it took to stand up to Berry.....and Berry listened.