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I agree. But that's Motown for you. Get one right, get six wrong. Rinse and repeat.:cool:

I think pushing them into the disco arena was a big part of this. If the group had settled back into sophisticated soul, some of this mess could have been eliminated.

Cool.

Perfect word to describe Mary. Going back to the 60s, Mary always had this air of "cool" about her. I think someone in the forum once mentioned that Mary seemed to be the hip dresser of the...

Sup what the heck is going on in that pic? Lol

The album could have been so much better. "Reflections" was so special, it would have made sense to build the entire album around it. "Forever", "I'm Gonna Make It", "I Can't Make It Alone", "Bah,...

Well she was drunk. To what degree, who knows? Mary has mentioned Flo had a very low tolerance for alcohol. Flo admits that prior to the show that night she had a few drinks. She also mentions...

I thought there was a photo of the marquee billing them as The Supremes and Diana Ross, or The Supremes With Diana Ross. Sup mentions the Steel Pier, but I was almost certain that this was for the...

I still don't believe the "Cindy Outfit" story. Flo doesn't mention it in her account of that night and I think Dreamgirls fueled someone else's account of what happened.

I think Flo had a bit too...

Three way tie between Flo, Diana and Jean. I love all three of their voices.

After reading Mary's first book, I was interested in hearing Flo's voice, which caused me to pick up Meet the...

Not only that, but Flo was recording with the group as late as June and she was a part of professional photo shoots right up to the day or so before her firing. It would seem strange to have her be a...

I think it was really a probationary period. Gordy never wanted to fire Florence if he didn't have to. I suspect that even in April, the initial firing wasn't serious. The thought is that Cindy was...

It's been a long time since I've watched either of those performances, but I don't recall ever thinking anything was "off". To the contrary, despite all the behind the scenes stuff, the group seems...

I'm 100 percent positive Mary Wilson received no offers for a solo deal, aside from what Motown offered her, for the first few years after leaving the Supremes. The thing is that only the biggest...

I'm sure a comment like that would hurt, but it should be understood that this is the nature of the business. I'm sure Diana heard or read worse than that, but she would use it to fuel herself. Mary...

OMG, yes, about Charlene. Anybody at Motown that thought Charlene was a bigger bet than Mary had to be deaf and dumb.

In 1980 Motown was not in the best of financial situations. Seems like it...

She was definitely naive. She was also desperate. And she was afraid. Motown had Mary by the ovaries. They had the power, she had none. I imagine that had to suck. But she really should have looked...

I agree. Was Mary really asking for too much? Wasn't there a compromise to be made on the name, perhaps sharing it 50/50? Seems like quite a few Motowners were really loyal to Motown. Interesting...

It is an interesting thought: what if Mary had refused to drop her lawsuit? Would she have won? It's a shame that she was fighting such a big machine. Financially they had the upper hand.

With...

Isn't the only person on record suggesting that Mary had a drug habit, Tall Tales? I believe she wrote in her second book that she did some partaking, but I can't recall anyone in the "know" who has...

Picked this one up the other day.

The Hardest Deal of All: the Battle Over School Integration In Mississippi, 1870-1980 by Charles C. Bolton.

I'm on the second page of the Introduction and...

I thought I read this too, but it's also a documentary, so maybe I only saw the doc. Sans you're killing the reading game. I used to read a ton of books. The internet has zapped a lot of my attention...

Sans I think I read this, but can't remember. Saw the movie.

Is this where some guy went nuts and killed a woman and children? Or am I mixing up my architects?

Diana did what Diana was supposed to do. Can't fault her for the work she put in. But you're right, with the big guy in her corner [[and eventually in her bed...or was it his bed?) she knew the sky...

As I suspected. It's always a red flag when someone tries to prevent family from accessing their loved one. But it is a comfort to know that it appears things are being righted for Cindy. Her son is...