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but she was 42 or so when Dreamgirl came out. that's gonna be tough to sell into a record company that someone at that age is ready to start a pop solo career.

she did try branching into other...

i was thinking if they did it in 72 and if they still really wanted to released IGIMTM, it could have been the single. maybe it would have done a little better if the parent album had been something...

yeah i think the issue was more that there weren't other offers. part of this is that mary didn't have a reputation in the industry. she wasn't the lead of the group. and when she did share a lead...

mary talks in Sup Faith about using cocaine to numb the pain of her life with Pedro. she doesn't go as far as to say that she was a junkie or anything.

was thinking of another take on a GH package. a more deluxe concept. and i know motown would never have bothered with the 70s sups but just for fun. it would be a 2 disc set of Greatest Hits and...

it's so bizarre that it was pulled. motown had long since understood that compilation packages could sell. hell - how many volumes of "Big Package of Hits" did they release in the 60s? and even...

with the disappointing released of Dynamite and Jimmy Webb, both at the holiday time period, it's surprising motown didn't just throw together a quite GH package. that would have certainly sold...

i think the fact of the matter is there just were no other offers. No other label was expressing any interest in Mary. the Supremes hadn't had any hits since the very early 70s. their later-day...

agree - these are really mary at her peak. the songs were extremely commercial and, with a bit of promotion, could have been hits. these are very early 80s in their sound and quite contemporary. ...

by 1979 Mary was in some really troubled time. there was a lot of cocaine, the whole Pedro mess as her manager. the Supremes had been total chaos from 74 - 77 and there was that lingering cloud. ...

donna summer sort of had the work from the opposite side of things - she was an excellent vocalist but was sort of pigeon holed into being a sexpot disco diva. maybe people look down their noses at...

of course all of this is caveated with a big fat "we don't really know." it's all speculation, for the most part. trying to make heads or tails of how things played out. Some of it is based on...

not that i'm aware of. there just wasn't the volume of mental health care officials back then and most people just viewed it as something to "work out yourself"

In addition, lower income had...

and i don't think M and F were being excessively lazy or negligent to their careers. they were normal 22 year olds. they were wanting what is today called work life balance. it's just that in...

i agree. even if mary HAD been in town, it's highly debatable that they'd have bothered to use her and Cindy. they were barely on half of the recordings at this time

and the issue of Mary's...

i'd not heard that before. outside of his work with Diana, i'm not sure familiar with all that Masser did. I know he collaborated with Ron Miller on TMITM but outside of that did he do much? had...

maybe since diana had such a strong public image they didn't want to stray too far. her Masser produced songs are almost torchsong-like. sure they did a hard left with LH but overall things were...

so i think LH was a rather calculated and deliberate effort to move Diana into something more hip and current. She was long established in the ballad and jazz area but needed something new and...

my memory is a bit sketchy on this but disco was already becoming a force in the industry. sure it would explode later in 77 with Sat Night Fever. but it was already really starting to break out. ...

to be honest, i've never dug into the digital charts and all. don't really know how they're calculated vs the "old" charts" not sure if it's an apple to apple comparison or not.

Diana was, is and always will be stuck in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation when it comes to M and F. This isn't to say that her decisions are always the best. but i honestly do...

i think there are more phases than simply the change in 67

when the girls first became huge, they were very much beautiful and glamorous but still retained a "girl next door" image. even when...

she'd probably give some annoyingly MOR response about how valuable the whole "growth" experience was lol. Why Do Fools is [[i'm pretty sure) an all-time fav song of hers. so doing a remake of it...

haha - whoa we agree on something Ollie ;) jk

i've said it before. the BIM project is lovely but just not what was happening at that time. it has a more traditional, innocent pop sound. and...

i don't know how much they'd have been able to resurrect ITITALT. Ain't Nothing But A Maybe or You're Good My Child are strong tracks too that might have done well. obviously nothing like LH but...