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    not in the US. this was international only

    not in the US. this was international only
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    staging - so a lot have brought up the odd camera...

    staging - so a lot have brought up the odd camera angle with Mary in front. i have to say i kind of like it. yes mary was forward of the group. but i'm guessing the 3 were all staggered. i don't...
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    while i know not everyone is super into the...

    while i know not everyone is super into the gowns, i have to say i was glad when the girls moved out of their "chiffon" phase lol. seems like late 66 and into 67 was all about wide flowing chiffon...
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    yeah i was never much of a radio listener. i...

    yeah i was never much of a radio listener. i always like to control the programming - even back in the lp days. and one of my fav of all tunes is You Can't Hurry Love. i really dislike the single...
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    very interesting how so many people on here tend...

    very interesting how so many people on here tend to prefer the single versions of the hits. I'm almost universally on the side of the album version. i think all [[or almost all) of the singles are...
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    if nothing else it's a grammar thing. there's no...

    if nothing else it's a grammar thing. there's no reason to say "stoned" if we're assuming there aren't any drug references in the song. years ago a book/author mentioned that Stoned Love could have...
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    i've not heard that this performance was ever...

    i've not heard that this performance was ever cancelled or had been attempted to be cancelled. Also i hear M and F pretty clearly in the Millie/Rose/Mame medley. yes they're absolutely lip syncing...
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    but she was 42 or so when Dreamgirl came out. ...

    but she was 42 or so when Dreamgirl came out. that's gonna be tough to sell into a record company that someone at that age is ready to start a pop solo career.

    she did try branching into other...
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    i was thinking if they did it in 72 and if they...

    i was thinking if they did it in 72 and if they still really wanted to released IGIMTM, it could have been the single. maybe it would have done a little better if the parent album had been something...
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    yeah i think the issue was more that there...

    yeah i think the issue was more that there weren't other offers. part of this is that mary didn't have a reputation in the industry. she wasn't the lead of the group. and when she did share a lead...
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    mary talks in Sup Faith about using cocaine to...

    mary talks in Sup Faith about using cocaine to numb the pain of her life with Pedro. she doesn't go as far as to say that she was a junkie or anything.
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    was thinking of another take on a GH package. a...

    was thinking of another take on a GH package. a more deluxe concept. and i know motown would never have bothered with the 70s sups but just for fun. it would be a 2 disc set of Greatest Hits and...
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    it's so bizarre that it was pulled. motown had...

    it's so bizarre that it was pulled. motown had long since understood that compilation packages could sell. hell - how many volumes of "Big Package of Hits" did they release in the 60s? and even...
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    potential Jean-era Greatest Hits lp

    with the disappointing released of Dynamite and Jimmy Webb, both at the holiday time period, it's surprising motown didn't just throw together a quite GH package. that would have certainly sold...
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    i think the fact of the matter is there just were...

    i think the fact of the matter is there just were no other offers. No other label was expressing any interest in Mary. the Supremes hadn't had any hits since the very early 70s. their later-day...
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    agree - these are really mary at her peak. the...

    agree - these are really mary at her peak. the songs were extremely commercial and, with a bit of promotion, could have been hits. these are very early 80s in their sound and quite contemporary. ...
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    by 1979 Mary was in some really troubled time. ...

    by 1979 Mary was in some really troubled time. there was a lot of cocaine, the whole Pedro mess as her manager. the Supremes had been total chaos from 74 - 77 and there was that lingering cloud. ...
  18. donna summer sort of had the work from the...

    donna summer sort of had the work from the opposite side of things - she was an excellent vocalist but was sort of pigeon holed into being a sexpot disco diva. maybe people look down their noses at...
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    of course all of this is caveated with a big fat...

    of course all of this is caveated with a big fat "we don't really know." it's all speculation, for the most part. trying to make heads or tails of how things played out. Some of it is based on...
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    not that i'm aware of. there just wasn't the...

    not that i'm aware of. there just wasn't the volume of mental health care officials back then and most people just viewed it as something to "work out yourself"

    In addition, lower income had...
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    and i don't think M and F were being excessively...

    and i don't think M and F were being excessively lazy or negligent to their careers. they were normal 22 year olds. they were wanting what is today called work life balance. it's just that in...
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    i agree. even if mary HAD been in town, it's...

    i agree. even if mary HAD been in town, it's highly debatable that they'd have bothered to use her and Cindy. they were barely on half of the recordings at this time

    and the issue of Mary's...
  23. i'd not heard that before. outside of his work...

    i'd not heard that before. outside of his work with Diana, i'm not sure familiar with all that Masser did. I know he collaborated with Ron Miller on TMITM but outside of that did he do much? had...
  24. maybe since diana had such a strong public image...

    maybe since diana had such a strong public image they didn't want to stray too far. her Masser produced songs are almost torchsong-like. sure they did a hard left with LH but overall things were...
  25. so i think LH was a rather calculated and...

    so i think LH was a rather calculated and deliberate effort to move Diana into something more hip and current. She was long established in the ballad and jazz area but needed something new and...
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