Was Andrew Breitbart murdered?

[skooldem1]

I didn't follow this guy, but I was reading an article on him this week. Apparently he had announced that he was going to release a video, or information regarding the President on March 1st. What happened? On March 1st, at only 43 years old, he drops dead. Coincidence?

[Jerry Oz]

Apparently, his "earth-shattering" revelation is that the president had a professor in 1990 who had interesting views on racial equality. It's really no news at all and if he was snuffed to keep it secret, somebody wasted the time and effort that it took to poison him.
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/han...s-team-foxify-

The following was lifted from the Crooks & Liars website [[link above):

In 1990, Barack Obama gave a speech at Harvard in support of the first tenured African-American Harvard Law School professor Derrick Bell. Video of the speech has been available for years. But Sean Hannity, Mediaite's Frances Martel and Breitbart acolytes have decided it's time to make a new bogeyman of Professor Derrick Bell, and by extension, President Obama. The video here is the full video of his speech as recorded by a local NBC affiliate at the time.
Before Andrew Breitbart's death, he was promising earthshattering video that would destroy President Obama. This is, apparently, that video. They needed a new Jeremiah Wright and figured Bell, being dead and all, might be just the person to fill the bill.
Of course, they did not publish the video in its entirety. Buzzfeed published a 77-second excerpt Tuesday morning, which Breitbart.com claims is heavily edited. PBS notes that the editing was likely done by the station itself at the time it was aired in 1991, and Buzzfeed licensed the clip for publication, as is.
Breitbart TV, on the other hand, aired a tiny little clip shown during a lecture by Professor Charles Ogletree which purports to have Ogletree claiming they hid the clip in 2008. Except the clip was not hidden at all, as PBS explains. In fact, part of the video was used in their documentary The Choice, which has been available on the Frontline site and on YouTube since it was aired.
Breitbart's heirs can't resist characterizing a man whose entire career was devoted to fighting for equality and civil rights for black people as a "racialist" as a way of once again emphasizing Obama's "otherness" to viewers and faithful conservatives everywhere. Racialism has several definitions, but is most often associated with racist, supremacist, or separatist views.
That is not who Derrick Bell was. In essence, Derrick Bell argued that it wasn't enough to say blacks were equal, but that equality was more than saying. It was doing. Here's an excerpt from his bio on the Visionary Project:

Bell's scholarly writings have placed him in the forefront of Critical Race Theory [[CRT), a new jurisprudence that explores the influences of society's racism and sexism in the law's policies and precedents. CRT is the theory that race lies at the center of American life. It challenges people to consider in all things the relationship that exists between race, the justice system, and society.

Turning to Hannity's Foxification of then-Harvard Law Review President Barack Obama's speech in defense of Professor Bell, we begin with two wet-behind-the-ears kids who clearly need to study some history and maybe the definition of humility before swaggering onto Hannity's set -- Ben Shapiro, editor-at-large of Breitbart.com and Joel Pollak, failed Skokie Congressional candidate and Breitbart.com Editor-in-Chief.
Hannity's segment begins with Breitbart announcing at CPAC that racial division and class warfare were "central to what hope and change was all about" in 2008. Funny, that. The only folks who seem to want racial division are the Breitbots and Hannitys, those who want to paint Barack Obama as an "other." Those who want to scare their audience and tell people who fear others that don't look like them that they have a reason to be afraid. Those people are not Barack Obama.
Next, Hannity shows the Buzzfeed clip released Tuesday morning. In the interests of time and because I've posted the full unedited video, we edited that part out, but you can see the clip here.
So, are you ready for the deep dark hidden secret? Brace yourselves. Here it is: At the end of Obama's introduction, he embraces Professor Bell. Horrors! Angry Black Lady puts the shock and awe into understandable terms:

Apparently, Negroes hugging is the lesser known fifth horseman of the apocalypse.

I'm sure to these three yahoos, it's more like the lesser known three-fifths horseman of the apocalypse.
Much is also made of Ogletree's introduction and statement that they hid the video in 2008. As I've already pointed out, the video was not hidden. And I'm curious to know why Breitbart & Co. thinks this is such a secret. After all, Ogletree's lectures have been posted online and were covered in the Harvard Crimson, including that specific quote from him as far back as November, 2011. I'm not sure if it was sarcasm or something else, but it wasn't some deep plot, for heavens' sake.
The best part of this Hannity segment is when these Harvard-educated intrepid "editors-in-chief" and lawyers admit that this video footage has been in the public square forever. So while Hannity and Co. claim that Obama wasn't vetted properly in 2008, they've produced some video that's been easily obtained by anyone who cared. If Hannity and his neocon "journalist" brothers cared so much, why are they just "discovering" it now? [[Hint: The Fox Effect applies here)
No matter how hard Hannity whips this thing, it's going nowhere. There's just no there, there. It's a southern strategy that will appeal to the hard-core haters, but they were haters before this video was aired and they'll be haters afterward. For the rest, it's a big, giant ho-hum.
Here's what I take away from the unedited video, and what Hannity forgot to mention. First, that speech was given without a TelePrompter anywhere in sight. And second, he was just as gifted at giving a speech then as he is today. In fact, that video could just as easily have been shot yesterday as twenty years ago.
Hannity just proved the old saw about the wisdom of keeping one's mouth shut and being thought a fool. He has now removed all doubt. That won't stop Roger Ailes and Fox from ginning it up, and then asking why other media outlets aren't covering it, and then making an even bigger deal of it. Only this time, it won't stick. We're onto them.

[skooldem1]

Was he murdered?

[Jerry Oz]

In my opinion? Self-murdered by too much hate, which caused stress-related [[and well-deserved) early onset heart disease. And although I'm no doctor, I've watched them on television, so I feel qualified to offer this opinion.

[ms_m]

The video was aired nationally on PBS just a few days before the 2008 Presidential election.

[stephanie]

I didnt agree with his tactics and political views but I was sorry to hear he passed away. Everything he said and did was with conviction.

[Jerry Oz]

It's never good when someone dies, but this guy had no problem with poisoning the well for the rest of us for his own selfish reasons and not caring about the consequences. From that standpoint, although I wouldn't wish him dead, I'm not sorry that he's gone.

[smark21]

What he did to Shirley Sherrod, editing parts out of her speech to portray her as a black racist was despicable. She lost her job and her reputation was slimed. Breithbart played with karma with such stunts and karma paid him back.

[Jerry Oz]

He also edited the video of ACORN and thousands of people who might otherwise have been encouraged to register and vote may have lost an advocate.

[stephanie]

Out of curiosity I looked at some of the liberal blogs and they were happy he is gone. To their credit 90 percent of the people on the Huffington Post which is a HUGE liberal blog were extremely kind and sensitive to this issue and a lot of right wingers posted thanking them for their kindness. I was proud to be a lefty that day because there was no Breitbart bashing [[with the exception of a few). I dont want the Democratic party to be known for cutting and editing tapes and spreading lies like the Republicans do. No offense to Republicans on this board I know all of them are not like that and I have respect for a lot of them until this Tea Party stuff started. Kudos to the right and left wingers who have been kind regarding this mans death.

[soulster]

Hey Breitbart! Hope you didn't let the casket lid hit you on your way out!

[stephanie]

Come on Soulster! Have respect for the dead but not their policies!

[Jerry Oz]

Off topic a little, but I am unfortunately laughing my butt off right now.

[Roberta75]

Hey Breitbart! Hope you didn't let the casket lid hit you on your way out!

What a disgustingly vile thing to post. I am the polar opposite of the man politically but lest we forget he left 4 young kids without a father.

Shame on you.

[soulster]

What a disgustingly vile thing to post. I am the polar opposite of the man politically but lest we forget he left 4 young kids without a father.

Shame on you.

I don't care.

I only hope that his family are better people than what Breitbart was.

[soulster]

Come on Soulster! Have respect for the dead but not their policies!

Do you have now respect for, uh..Adolf Hitler?

My point is that if I had no respect for them in life, what makes their death any different? Am I supposed to feel bad a vile, racist, liar like Andrew Breitbart's time came? I'm not gloating about it. It's unfortunate that his kids lost their father so soon, but the family will never get a sympathies card from me.

[Roberta75]

I don't care.

I only hope that his family are better people than what Breitbart was.

It's obvious that you don't care. May God forgive you for dancing on someone's grave.

Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers. The wicked are not so, but are like chaff that the wind drives away. Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

[Jerry Oz]

I'm not happy that he's gone, nor sad that he no longer breathing [[and fouling) the same air that I breathe. I cannot feign condolences for someone who would spit in my face, let alone on my grave. I am aware that he had children, but I also wonder if he poisoned their minds to be like his in the time that he was here. I don't believe there is justice to be served in this life and God may judge him to be more righteous in the end than I am, but in my understanding of how things SHOULD work, one man is gone and millions are ultimately better for it.

Rest in peace, Andrew Breitbart. May God have mercy on your soul.

[soulster]

It's obvious that you don't care. May God forgive you for dancing on someone's grave.

I'm not dancing. I just have no feeling about it one way or the other. When I heard the news of his passing, I seriously just shrugged my shoulders, and i'm an emotional guy. I will say that the world is one less far-right conservative/republiKKKan operative. He has his fans and supporters, Let them mourn his loss.

Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers. The wicked are not so, but are like chaff that the wind drives away. Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

I do love the Lord Jesus, but i'm not religious, so your quoting bible scriptures has no effect on me. You wanna pray for me now Mr. or Ms. Christian?

Out of curiosity I looked at some of the liberal blogs and they were happy he is gone. To their credit 90 percent of the people on the Huffington Post which is a HUGE liberal blog were extremely kind and sensitive to this issue and a lot of right wingers posted thanking them for their kindness. I was proud to be a lefty that day because there was no Breitbart bashing [[with the exception of a few). I dont want the Democratic party to be known for cutting and editing tapes and spreading lies like the Republicans do. No offense to Republicans on this board I know all of them are not like that and I have respect for a lot of them until this Tea Party stuff started. Kudos to the right and left wingers who have been kind regarding this mans death.

So, let someone else be the better person. I don't have to.

[Roberta75]

I'm not dancing. I just have no feeling about it one way or the other. When I heard the news of his passing, I seriously just shrugged my shoulders, and i'm an emotional guy. I will say that the world is one less far-right conservative/republiKKKan operative. He has his fans and supporters, Let them mourn his loss.



I do love the Lord Jesus, but i'm not religious, so your quoting bible scriptures has no effect on me. You wanna pray for me now?

And in spite of your callousness, the Lord loves you and I am praying for you.

Roberta

[soulster]

I'm not happy that he's gone, nor sad that he no longer breathing [[and fouling) the same air that I breathe. I cannot feign condolences for someone who would spit in my face, let alone on my grave. I am aware that he had children, but I also wonder if he poisoned their minds to be like his in the time that he was here. I don't believe there is justice to be served in this life and God may judge him to be more righteous in the end than I am, but in my understanding of how things SHOULD work, one man is gone and millions are ultimately better for it.

Rest in peace, Andrew Breitbart. May God have mercy on your soul.

This is a bit closer to where my head is on the matter. But, I am happy he will no longer to do awful things in the name of his neo-conservatism.

[Roberta75]

This is a bit closer to where my head is on the matter. But, I am happy he will no longer to do awful things in the name of his neo-conservatism.

Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

[soulster]

And in spite of your callousness, the Lord loves you and I am praying for you.

Roberta

Whatev...knock yourself out. Nothing's gonna make me feel bad for the loss of one evil dude like Andrew Breitbart.

When my father passed away last year from complications his kidney cancer, I felt nothing. he was a rotten father and person. I feel bad that he went out the way he did, but it would have been different if her had been a better person in life. I did my duty and made sure he was put in the ground with military honors and all that. He has to deal with God now. It's not my problem.

So, go preach to someone who cares.

[Roberta75]

Whatev...knock yourself out. Nothing's gonna make me feel bad for the loss of one evil dude like Andrew Breitbart.

When my father passed away last year from complications his kidney cancer, I felt nothing. he was a rotten father and person. I feel bad that he went out the way he did, but it would have been different if her had been a better person in life. I did my duty and made sure he was put in the ground with military honors and all that. He has to deal with God now. It's not my problem.

So, go preach to someone who cares.

You will care on judgment day.

But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

[soulster]

Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Your insistent preaching just pisses people off. Go preach your bible to someone who cares.

And, since you love to preach your christianity so much to things you don't know about, you will unfortunately have to go on my ignore list.

Nice talking to you.

[Roberta75]

Your insistent preaching just pisses people off. Go preach your bible to someone who cares.

For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the Lord, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.

[Roberta75]

Your insistent preaching just pisses people off. Go preach your bible to someone who cares.

And, since you love to preach your christianity so much to things you don't know about, you will unfortunately have to go on my ignore list.

Nice talking to you.

These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Do not soweth discord amongst thy brethren Soulster.

[soulster]

Oh, and remember your own words and your bible scriptures about judging others when you start bashing Marv2.

[Roberta75]

Oh, and remember your own words and your bible scriptures about judging others when you start bashing Marv2.

marv2 is on my ignore and in my prayers. You are also in my prayers.

For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied: yea, he warmeth himself, and saith, Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire: And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god. They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; [and] their hearts, that they cannot understand. And none considereth in his heart, neither [is there] knowledge nor understanding to say, I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten it and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree? He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, Is there not a lie in my right hand.

[Jerry Oz]

Roberta, agree to disagree in this instance. You cannot determine whether Soulster [[or anyone else) is rotten because he doesn't feel bad for a stranger's death. It's not like he killed him. Breitbart has sown the seeds of hatred and if Soulster feels anything other than ambivalence for him, it's more because of Breitbart than because of Soulster. Nobody would even know who Breitbart is except for his vile history.

I am a Christian and I have struggled at times to love people who have done me wrong. What I find to be most helpful during those times is to pray for those people and to pray for myself. Rather than quote scripture for someone who clearly is rejecting it in this context, perhaps you should pray for him instead of trying to change his mind in this way. We're on a message board and we're all going to have different opinions. That's what makes it interesting. However, only God will determine whether one person's opinion is more righteous than another.

[soulster]

Roberta, agree to disagree in this instance. You cannot determine whether Soulster [[or anyone else) is rotten because he doesn't feel bad for a stranger's death. It's not like he killed him. Breitbart has sown the seeds of hatred and if Soulster feels anything other than ambivalence for him, it's more because of Breitbart than because of Soulster. Nobody would even know who Breitbart is except for his vile history.

I am a Christian and I have struggled at times to love people who have done me wrong. What I find to be most helpful during those times is to pray for those people and to pray for myself. Rather than quote scripture for someone who clearly is rejecting it in this context, perhaps you should pray for him instead of trying to change his mind in this way. We're on a message board and we're all going to have different opinions. That's what makes it interesting. However, only God will determine whether one person's opinion is more righteous than another.

So, what are you going to pray for me about? For me to come around to yours or her belief? Don't hold your breath.

I think Roberta should leave it alone because I am, or was a christian. I've been there, know all about it. I used to be one of those fundamentalists who quoted bible scriptures and preached to people. I found that all I did was piss people off, they tune out, and I push them away from God. There are a variety of reasons I now reject christianity. have I replaced it with something else? No. I have no intentions to.

I believe in God, and Jesus as my savior. After that, don't even try it. Do what you need to do for yourself and don't try to pester others. If you are gonna pray for someone, keep it to yourself.

[Jerry Oz]

So, what are you going to pray for me about? For me to come around to yours or her belief? Don't hold your breath.

I think Roberta should leave it alone because I am, or was a christian. I've been there, know all about it. I used to be one of those fundamentalists who quoted bible scriptures and preached to people. I found that all I did was piss people off, they tune out, and I push them away from God. There are a variety of reasons I now reject christianity. have I replaced it with something else? No. I have no intentions to.

I believe in God, and Jesus as my savior. After that, don't even try it. Do what you need to do for yourself and don't try to pester others. If you are gonna pray for someone, keep it to yourself.

Whoa! I said that SHE could pray for you, not me. I'm too worried about my own soul to care a whole lot about you. No disrespect intended, but I'm not going to bust a blood vessel because you can't find love for a dead bigot. Especially when I can't either.

[Roberta75]

Roberta, agree to disagree in this instance. You cannot determine whether Soulster [[or anyone else) is rotten because he doesn't feel bad for a stranger's death. It's not like he killed him. Breitbart has sown the seeds of hatred and if Soulster feels anything other than ambivalence for him, it's more because of Breitbart than because of Soulster. Nobody would even know who Breitbart is except for his vile history.

I am a Christian and I have struggled at times to love people who have done me wrong. What I find to be most helpful during those times is to pray for those people and to pray for myself. Rather than quote scripture for someone who clearly is rejecting it in this context, perhaps you should pray for him instead of trying to change his mind in this way. We're on a message board and we're all going to have different opinions. That's what makes it interesting. However, only God will determine whether one person's opinion is more righteous than another.

I pray for all mankind Jerry including Soulster and Andrew Brietbart.

For the bible clearly states "And be ye kind one to another, tender-hearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you."

The Lord is my light, my truth, my voice and my eyes.

God bless you Jerry.

Roberta

[soulster]

I'm too worried about my own soul to care a whole lot about you.

Heh! I pray too. I just can't find the time to pray for a racist. I'm sure someone else will do it for me.

[Roberta75]

Heh! I pray too. I just can't find the time to pray for a racist. I'm sure someone else will do it for me.

Never fear, Roberta's here and she's praying for all mankind and that includes you Soulster.

And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive them, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.”

“If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.”

[gary_james]

interesting thread.

[soulster]

interesting thread.

Was an interesting thread.

[Jerry Oz]

Never fear, Roberta's here and she's praying for all mankind and that includes you Soulster.

And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive them, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.”

“If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.”

Roberta, it's possible to forgive somebody while not respecting them. It's possible to love humanity while hating the vile nature of man. While nobody is happy this hateful man has passed, you shouldn't expect anyone that he offended to mourn him either.

[Roberta75]

Roberta, it's possible to forgive somebody while not respecting them. It's possible to love humanity while hating the vile nature of man. While nobody is happy this hateful man has passed, you shouldn't expect anyone that he offended to mourn him either.

I am not expecting anything of the sort Jerry. What I am expecting is not to read vile comments like "Hey Breitbart! Hope you didn't let the casket lid hit you on your way out" which is callous and vile. A man died and left behind four children without a father and while he may have been a vile person, only God should judge him in death.

"The nations were filled with wrath, but now the time of your wrath has come. It is time to judge the dead and reward your servants the prophets, as well as your holy people, and all who fear your name, from the least to the greatest."

[Roberta75]

interesting thread.

Yes it is. The good Lord works in mysterious ways.

[Jerry Oz]

I am not expecting anything of the sort Jerry. What I am expecting is not to read vile comments like "Hey Breitbart! Hope you didn't let the casket lid hit you on your way out" which is callous and vile. A man died and left behind four children without a father and while he may have been a vile person, only God should judge him in death.

"The nations were filled with wrath, but now the time of your wrath has come. It is time to judge the dead and reward your servants the prophets, as well as your holy people, and all who fear your name, from the least to the greatest."

I'm not disagreeing with either of you. However, he made it clear that he understood the Bible scriptures that you quoted to him. I'm about 120% certain quoting more is not going to change his mind. And although Breitbart is dead, we all have opinions of people when they are alive, so it would be hypocritical to suddenly change our opinions when they are dead. If Soulster were to tell you that he's sorry for the passing of someone that he detests when it's not true, he'd be lying. That [[to me) is worse than exclaiming that he's not sorry that he's gone. Maybe the comment was inappropriate [[especially after you were grateful that there were not any such on the message board) but we all make our own beds.

[soulster]

Correct, Jerry. It's like suddenly professing a fondness for Ronald Reagan now that he's dead, than when when he was president, an awful lot of people despised him.