Diana Ross back in the UK charts.

[tomato tom]

Cant we just enjoy the music she has given us, for Gods sake?.....Paulo xxx

[Hotspurman]

I have noticed a lot of negativity towards Diana ob this thread, but no one seems to have mentioned the one thing for which she is most guilty. As an England fan, I suffered the agonies of 1990, 1996, 1998 and 2006, and as a Tottenham Hotspur fan I’ve seen us lose a few as well, but I have to tell you Diana took the worst penalty I’ve ever seen in my life. Not only was it not on target, an unforgiveable sin from twelve yards, but it almost ruined the opening ceremony for the 1994 World Cup. Harry Redknapp’s wife Sandra would have scored [[maybe not Darren Bent), but Diana’s effort was just pathetic!

[jobeterob]

LOL.........but she did blow the goal apart!

The negativity is just a couple guys who only have an online life and no other; she booted one from a concert, the story goes...........a la Tim McGraw, Bette Midler. It's not worth paying a lot of attention to but can be entertaining.

[smark21]

Cant we just enjoy the music she has given us, for Gods sake?.....Paulo xxx

That's what I've posted before but some fans either get caught up in the drama and the controversery, or they're too much into sales and chart position.

[Constantin]

Here in America, she, Diana Ross has only had one single to chart in the last 27 years and that being "Take Me Higher" which got all the way up to #114 back in 1995.

"Take me higher" was a hit in disco's [[#1 in the US) and if I remember well a song from her 1999 cd was #2 in the dance charts [["Until we meet again").

[marv2]

"Take me higher" was a hit in disco's [[#1 in the US) and if I remember well a song from her 1999 cd was #2 in the dance charts [["Until we meet again").

I live in the U.S., in New York. Where do you live where they still have Disco's? We no longer had them here by 1995. Also, the Dance Charts, although nice, mean very little to anyone.

I stand by what I posted.

[Constantin]

I live in the U.S., in New York. Where do you live where they still have Disco's? We no longer had them here by 1995. Also, the Dance Charts, although nice, mean very little to anyone.

I stand by what I posted.

Club, disco, buh... the same.

[captainjames]

You are correct it went to # 1 Hot Club Dance Play.

"Take me higher" was a hit in disco's [[#1 in the US) and if I remember well a song from her 1999 cd was #2 in the dance charts [["Until we meet again").

[skooldem1]

Just to reiterate, Diana Ross has not been absent from the Billboard charts in the last 20 years. These are the facts.


Billboard Charts
Date/Title/Peak Position


Jazz Albums

07/01/2006 Blue #2


Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums

03/14/2009 Playlist your Way #100
02/03/2007 I Love You #16
07/08/2006 Blue #7
06/05/1999 Everyday is a new Day #47
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #38
05/07/1994 Diana Extended/The Remixes #68
01/01/1994 Forever Diana #88
11/02/1991 The Force behind the Power #66
07/22/1989 Workin' Overtime #34
06/27/1987 Red Hot Rhythm & Blues #39
11/30/1985 Eaten Alive #27



R&B/Hip-Hop Songs

03/23/1996 If you're not gonna love me right #67
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #77
10/19/1991 When you tell me that you love me #37
?1991 No matter what you do [[w/Al B.Sure) #4
09/30/1989 This House #64
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #3
07/04/1987 Dirty Looks #12
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #10
07/13/1985 Telephone #13
02/23/1985 Missing You #1



Billboard Top 200 Album Chart

02/03/2007 I Love You #32
07/08/2006 Blue #146
06/06/1999 Every Day is a new Day #108
01/14/1995 Take me Higher #114
09/28/1991 The Force behind the power #102
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #116
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #45


Dance/Club Play Songs

06/19/1999 Until we meet Again #2
05/04/1996 I will Survive #37
12/02/1995 Take me Higher #1
06/04/1994 Someday We'll be together/Remix #7
02/22/1992 You're gonna love it #24
04/08/1989 Love Hangover89 #3
06/24/1989 Workin' Overtime #11
09/09/1989 Paradise #11
03/01/1986 Chain Reaction Remix #7
11/09/1985 Eaten Alive #3





http://www.billboard.com/artist/dian...t-history/5566

[marv2]

Club, disco, buh... the same.

Are you trying to say that Diana Ross was a "Dance Music Artist"?

A 50 year old plus Dance Music Artist = "Novelty Act"! LOL!

There were no hits in the United States after 1984.

[marv2]

Just to reiterate, Diana Ross has not been absent from the Billboard charts in the last 20 years. These are the facts.


Billboard Charts
Date/Title/Peak Position


Jazz Albums

07/01/2006 Blue #2


Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums

03/14/2009 Playlist your Way #100
02/03/2007 I Love You #16
07/08/2006 Blue #7
06/05/1999 Everyday is a new Day #47
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #38
05/07/1994 Diana Extended/The Remixes #68
01/01/1994 Forever Diana #88
11/02/1991 The Force behind the Power #66
07/22/1989 Workin' Overtime #34
06/27/1987 Red Hot Rhythm & Blues #39
11/30/1985 Eaten Alive #27



R&B/Hip-Hop Songs

03/23/1996 If you're not gonna love me right #67
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #77
10/19/1991 When you tell me that you love me #37
?1991 No matter what you do [[w/Al B.Sure) #4
09/30/1989 This House #64
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #3
07/04/1987 Dirty Looks #12
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #10
07/13/1985 Telephone #13
02/23/1985 Missing You #1



Billboard Top 200 Album Chart

02/03/2007 I Love You #32
07/08/2006 Blue #146
06/06/1999 Every Day is a new Day #108
01/14/1995 Take me Higher #114
09/28/1991 The Force behind the power #102
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #116
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #45


Dance/Club Play Songs

06/19/1999 Until we meet Again #2
05/04/1996 I will Survive #37
12/02/1995 Take me Higher #1
06/04/1994 Someday We'll be together/Remix #7
02/22/1992 You're gonna love it #24
04/08/1989 Love Hangover89 #3
06/24/1989 Workin' Overtime #11
09/09/1989 Paradise #11
03/01/1986 Chain Reaction Remix #7
11/09/1985 Eaten Alive #3





http://www.billboard.com/artist/dian...t-history/5566

Yeah? Where are the Pop Charts?

[captainjames]

Diana has been one of the very few original Motown performers that remain visible on the charts, radio and concerts. It is amazing how her longevity continues to reach from generation to generation.

[marv2]

Diana has been one of the very few original Motown performers that remain visible on the charts, radio and concerts. It is amazing how her longevity continues to reach from generation to generation.

Whatever..........hehehehehehehe!

[skooldem1]

The years of Diana charting on the "Pop" chart is over. None of her records appear on the top 40 stations, so to continually go on and on about the one chart you know she won't chart on to bolster an arugment is silly. Her last CD charted on the top 200 album charts, in the top 40- that was a great achievement and one that many of her contemporaries would give anything for.

Just a reminder- just the facts:


Billboard Charts
Date/Title/Peak Position


Jazz Albums

07/01/2006 Blue #2


Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums

03/14/2009 Playlist your Way #100
02/03/2007 I Love You #16
07/08/2006 Blue #7
06/05/1999 Everyday is a new Day #47
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #38
05/07/1994 Diana Extended/The Remixes #68
01/01/1994 Forever Diana #88
11/02/1991 The Force behind the Power #66
07/22/1989 Workin' Overtime #34
06/27/1987 Red Hot Rhythm & Blues #39
11/30/1985 Eaten Alive #27



R&B/Hip-Hop Songs

03/23/1996 If you're not gonna love me right #67
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #77
10/19/1991 When you tell me that you love me #37
?1991 No matter what you do [[w/Al B.Sure) #4
09/30/1989 This House #64
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #3
07/04/1987 Dirty Looks #12
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #10
07/13/1985 Telephone #13
02/23/1985 Missing You #1



Billboard Top 200 Album Chart

02/03/2007 I Love You #32
07/08/2006 Blue #146
06/06/1999 Every Day is a new Day #108
01/14/1995 Take me Higher #114
09/28/1991 The Force behind the power #102
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #116
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #45


Dance/Club Play Songs

06/19/1999 Until we meet Again #2
05/04/1996 I will Survive #37
12/02/1995 Take me Higher #1
06/04/1994 Someday We'll be together/Remix #7
02/22/1992 You're gonna love it #24
04/08/1989 Love Hangover89 #3
06/24/1989 Workin' Overtime #11
09/09/1989 Paradise #11
03/01/1986 Chain Reaction Remix #7
11/09/1985 Eaten Alive #3

[captainjames]

I agree with you
and I am loving it.

The years of Diana charting on the "Pop" chart is over. None of her records appear on the top 40 stations, so to continually go on and on about the one chart you know she won't chart on to bolster an arugment is silly. Her last CD charted on the top 200 album charts, in the top 40- that was a great achievement and one that many of her contemporaries would give anything for.

Just a reminder- just the facts:


Billboard Charts
Date/Title/Peak Position


Jazz Albums

07/01/2006 Blue #2


Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums

03/14/2009 Playlist your Way #100
02/03/2007 I Love You #16
07/08/2006 Blue #7
06/05/1999 Everyday is a new Day #47
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #38
05/07/1994 Diana Extended/The Remixes #68
01/01/1994 Forever Diana #88
11/02/1991 The Force behind the Power #66
07/22/1989 Workin' Overtime #34
06/27/1987 Red Hot Rhythm & Blues #39
11/30/1985 Eaten Alive #27



R&B/Hip-Hop Songs

03/23/1996 If you're not gonna love me right #67
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #77
10/19/1991 When you tell me that you love me #37
?1991 No matter what you do [[w/Al B.Sure) #4
09/30/1989 This House #64
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #3
07/04/1987 Dirty Looks #12
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #10
07/13/1985 Telephone #13
02/23/1985 Missing You #1



Billboard Top 200 Album Chart

02/03/2007 I Love You #32
07/08/2006 Blue #146
06/06/1999 Every Day is a new Day #108
01/14/1995 Take me Higher #114
09/28/1991 The Force behind the power #102
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #116
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #45


Dance/Club Play Songs

06/19/1999 Until we meet Again #2
05/04/1996 I will Survive #37
12/02/1995 Take me Higher #1
06/04/1994 Someday We'll be together/Remix #7
02/22/1992 You're gonna love it #24
04/08/1989 Love Hangover89 #3
06/24/1989 Workin' Overtime #11
09/09/1989 Paradise #11
03/01/1986 Chain Reaction Remix #7
11/09/1985 Eaten Alive #3

[carlo]

Someone who receives a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award is hardly a novelty act...just sayin'.

There are plenty of other artists these days who mostly only chart on the dance charts, but I would hardly consider them novelty acts. Jody Watley comes to my mind.

To me, Billboard charts are not an indicator of an artist's overall success. Diana goes so beyond all of that. The Supremes had a # 1 Dance hit with "He's My Man" in 1975. Some people at that time called them a "novelty" or "oldies" act, but I would have hardly considered them as that. There are a lot of talented artists out there who are unsigned and marketing their own music and many of them are hundreds of times more talented than Katy Perry and Britney Spears. I guess it depends on how you define success. Some people value commercial success. I personally value artistic and creative success.

[skooldem1]

I find it so funny, especially since some, in trying to support the notion that the later day Supremes were "successful" because they had a number one disco record, always mention that fact. On that subject, exactly what chart was it, what was it called back then? Was it cashbox or Billboard?

[carlo]

I find it so funny, especially since some, in trying to support the notion that the later day Supremes were "successful" because they had a number one disco record, always mention that fact.

Exactly.....

[Roberta75]

I find it so funny, especially since some, in trying to support the notion that the later day Supremes were "successful" because they had a number one disco record, always mention that fact. On that subject, exactly what chart was it, what was it called back then? Was it cashbox or Billboard?

If Mary Wilson hit the Dance or R&B Charts tomorrow you know who would be screaming her praises and making those charts the most important thing since sliced bread.

Roberta

[Constantin]

Beyond the charts and the figures, people still buy her records, talk about her [[how many threads here are devoted to her, for instance ;-), she appears on tv, in magazines, she's been photographed, she does concerts... Her contemporaries seldom do [[and I don't think of struggling acts like Mary Wilson but widely recognised singers like Dionne Warwick, Marlena Shaw, Thelma Houston, Donna Summer... much more forgotten by the general audience than Ross). She is still a major figure, even in the US, especially in the US.

[RossHolloway]

Regardless of chart positions, Diana Ross can still command an audience and sell out concerts. While there are some posters on this site who wake up every morning just to try and tear Diana Ross down, no one cares about these people and the haters have never stopped Ms. Ross from doing what she loves to do: sing and entertain. We should all be so blessed to be able to do what we love everyday and be as successful.

[Roberta75]

Cant we just enjoy the music she has given us, for Gods sake?.....Paulo xxx

The voice of reason. Amen paulo.

Roberta

[Glenpwood]

It's a little silly to go around crowing about Diana Ross lack of Hot 100 success post 1984 and expect her at 67 years old to go put out an album that would get her back there. Now, no one would love to see her beat the odds more than me but let's be realistic here, short of a Glee collaboration, a Rihanna duet, or a charity single for a natural disaster those days are finished. It's a shame that the ambition/drive/determination that made Diana Ross one of the biggest recording stars of the twentieth century also makes her the easiest target of blame for the lack of the same success for her Motown peers. Online she's treated like a pinata and everyone has a stick to bust her open with. Stevie Wonder was Motown's biggest star in terms of chart success and sales in the seventies but I don't see people bashing him saying he held back Smokey, Marvin, or Rick James from huge success in the same way posters say the sixties Supremes held back the Marvelettes and Martha & The Vandellas from constant chart toppers. There's a myriad of reasons why records succeed as well as fail and this theory that Diana sat around telling Berry to not promote other peoples records or had the weight to make that happen is ridiculous. Do you honestly think Mary Wilson is sitting somewhere at this second stewing over Red Hot barely scraping the R&B chart 33 after the fact or Diana is doing the same today about You're Gonna Love It? These women have let go of things that fan need to take a step back from. Miss Ross has taken all the bashing she gets with a grace and dignity very few people would still posess if the difficult moments of their life were played out in a public forum. It's a lesson I try to follow and wish some others would as well. Not everyone has to love Diana or The Supremes in the same way I do so for the other side of the coin I don't have to worship at the alter of say Metallica, Lady Gaga, or their Motown fave. I understand it's a personal thing when someone criticizes their act of choice. Just respect their right to not love them in the same way and avoid taking the bait. Display the dignity all the Supremes have and walk away from the foolishness. It will feel like you've removed a thirty pound sequined gown when you do.....

[marv2]

Beyond the charts and the figures, people still buy her records, talk about her [[how many threads here are devoted to her, for instance ;-), she appears on tv, in magazines, she's been photographed, she does concerts... Her contemporaries seldom do [[and I don't think of struggling acts like Mary Wilson but widely recognised singers like Dionne Warwick, Marlena Shaw, Thelma Houston, Donna Summer... much more forgotten by the general audience than Ross). She is still a major figure, even in the US, especially in the US.

You're delusional! She plays weddings and birthday parties! LOL!!

[marybrewster]

I don't know what I can add other than: it's funny how the people that dismiss Diana's #1 Dance song "Take Me Higher" have no issue reminding everyone how "He's My Man" reached #1 on the Disco charts. You can't have it both ways.

In my eyes, it's all about the music.

[marv2]

Look, Diane ain't made no good records in a couple of decades! She strayed too far from her roots. She needs Berry! hahahahahahaha.........!

[smark21]

Poor Diane.

[marv2]

Poor Diane.

Exactly! She should have never left Berry Gordy. Now you see how things turned out.

[robbert]

Marv MUST be off his medication, that's for sure. In an other thread I said Marv reminds me of a certain Tony T. I mean: why would he stir up a row again and again [[and then again) I don't know, I don't understand it and must conclude that he must be in deep psychological turmoil.

[thaperson]

I'm not taking the obvious bait. What makes me laugh is this person was complaining in the Motown 25 "Truth" thread about how some posters just come on here to incite arguments.

Pot meet kettle.

And let me say, I've taken the bait a couple of times, but they've all taken place in Diana Ross threads. I do not go into a thread that's solely on Mary Wilson and start posting negative comments because I have respect for the people on this board. I realize that she has her fans, and they have the right to talk about her.

Yes, an opinion is an opinion. But when I click on a thread about the reissue of her 1976 album, and have to read comments about Flo's death, it gets to be annoying.

[marv2]

Marv MUST be off his medication, that's for sure. In an other thread I said Marv reminds me of a certain Tony T. I mean: why would he stir up a row again and again [[and then again) I don't know, I don't understand it and must conclude that he must be in deep psychological turmoil.

You don't know me. All you know is that you love Diana Ross...... and anyone that doesn't love her [[in your opinion) must be sick! Now who is truly the sick one?

[marv2]

I'm not taking the obvious bait. What makes me laugh is this person was complaining in the Motown 25 "Truth" thread about how some posters just come on here to incite arguments.

Pot meet kettle.

And let me say, I've taken the bait a couple of times, but they've all taken place in Diana Ross threads. I do not go into a thread that's solely on Mary Wilson and start posting negative comments because I have respect for the people on this board. I realize that she has her fans, and they have the right to talk about her.

Yes, an opinion is an opinion. But when I click on a thread about the reissue of her 1976 album, and have to read comments about Flo's death, it gets to be annoying.

Thank Constantine for bumping this old thread back up for discussion........!

[atcsm]

You're delusional! She plays weddings and birthday parties! LOL!!

You need to edit your response...........

You're delusional! She [[who is a Grammy Lifetime Achievment Award Winner) plays weddings and birthday parties! LOL!!
Full disclosure.

[jobeterob]

Holy............Marv's taking an ass kicking tonight.

I would love to have a #anything dance or adult contemporary hit..........esp. love to have a #1 Dance hit in any year, but #1 Pop will take my cake. But not my cherry...........!

[marv2]

Holy............Marv's taking an ass kicking tonight.

I would love to have a #anything dance or adult contemporary hit..........esp. love to have a #1 Dance hit in any year, but #1 Pop will take my cake. But not my cherry...........!

You would love to have dance hits? and all this time I thought you were a lawyer! Ahemmmmmm.,............ LOL!!!!

[marv2]

You need to edit your response...........

You're delusional! She [[who is a Grammy Lifetime Achievment Award Winner) plays weddings and birthday parties! LOL!!
Full disclosure.

Oh yeah I needed to add she also plays Trade Shows............hehehehehehe......

[captainjames]

That is interesting Rob ~~~
Someone must have smelled like a rotten egg or acted like totally jerk to be booted from a concert.

LOL.........but she did blow the goal apart!

The negativity is just a couple guys who only have an online life and no other; she booted one from a concert, the story goes...........a la Tim McGraw, Bette Midler. It's not worth paying a lot of attention to but can be entertaining.

[marybrewster]

The last time Diana hit the Top 40 Billboard Pop chart was 1984, #10, "Missing You".

So let's take a look at her contemporaries and see how they've faired:

Smokey Robinson, 1987, #10, "One Heartbeat".
Elton John, 1997, #1, "Something About the Way You Look Tonight/Candle in the Wind '97".
Stevie Wonder, 1987, #19, "Skeletons".
Lionel Richie, 1992, #39, "Don't Wanna Lose You".
Tina Turner, 1992, #9, "Don't Wanna Fight".
Gladys Knight, 1987, #13, "Love Overboard".
Dionne Warwick, 1986, #12, "Love Power".
Aretha Franklin, 1996, #26, "A Rose is Still a Rose".
Cher, 1998, #1, "Believe".
The Temptations, 1975, #37, "Glasshouse".
The Four Tops, 1988, #35, "Indestructible".

So it's pretty safe to say, no one has had much chart action in at LEAST a decade.

[carlo]

Thanks MaryBrewster! Well said.

She's also had some recent hits in the UK with "Not Over You Yet" and "When You Tell Me That You Love Me" with Westlife.

[captainjames]

Thanks Mary for doing your homework !!!

The last time Diana hit the Top 40 Billboard Pop chart was 1984, #10, "Missing You".

So let's take a look at her contemporaries and see how they've faired:

Smokey Robinson, 1987, #10, "One Heartbeat".
Elton John, 1997, #1, "Something About the Way You Look Tonight/Candle in the Wind '97".
Stevie Wonder, 1987, #19, "Skeletons".
Lionel Richie, 1992, #39, "Don't Wanna Lose You".
Tina Turner, 1992, #9, "Don't Wanna Fight".
Gladys Knight, 1987, #13, "Love Overboard".
Dionne Warwick, 1986, #12, "Love Power".
Aretha Franklin, 1996, #26, "A Rose is Still a Rose".
Cher, 1998, #1, "Believe".
The Temptations, 1975, #37, "Glasshouse".
The Four Tops, 1988, #35, "Indestructible".

So it's pretty safe to say, no one has had much chart action in at LEAST a decade.

[jobeterob]

Excellent work Mary.

We love all these people.........the Tempts and the Tops and Aretha and Gladys and Diana. And yes, it's been a while since they've hit the big chart, the Hot 100 and not many singles get sold anyway. But most of them still hit a chart here and there and most of these people still get out there and give a few concerts here and there, probably all singing a little less well than they did 30 or 40 years ago.

And we are lucky to have them.

I see Whitney Houston also seems to have made a smart move back to films; and she's getting her most positive press in many years and the pictures from the movie appear to show her alert and strong.

These are just people, like all the rest of us; they have ups and downs. For the most part, we've certainly enjoyed them.

[Sugarchilehoneybaby]

I find it so funny, especially since some, in trying to support the notion that the later day Supremes were "successful" because they had a number one disco record, always mention that fact. On that subject, exactly what chart was it, what was it called back then? Was it cashbox or Billboard?

Actually, Skooldem you are 100% correct. FACT is, "He's My Man" isn't even listed in my Hot Dance/Disco 1974-2003 by Joel Whitburn. Not only did it not hit #1, it didn't land anywhere in the Top 20 in Billboard OR Record World. [[The Dance Chart was initially only 20 positions.)

As for Marv2, I pity you. This is all you have to do, is trip out on the fact that Diana Ross hasn't visited the Billboard Hot 100 since 1986? B F D.

[Sugarchilehoneybaby]

Actually, Skooldem you are 100% correct. FACT is, "He's My Man" isn't even listed in my Hot Dance/Disco 1974-2003 by Joel Whitburn. Not only did it not hit #1, it didn't land anywhere in the Top 20 in Billboard OR Record World. [[The Dance Chart was initially only 20 positions.)

As for Marv2, I pity you. This is all you have to do, is trip out on the fact that Diana Ross hasn't visited the Billboard Hot 100 since 1986? B F D.

Hey Skooldem, you forgot a few! Just to fill in the blanks:

Jazz Albums: 1993 Stolen Moments #10
Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums: 1993 Stolen Moments #73
Classical Crossover Albums: 1993 Christmas In Vienna #1
Billboard Top 200 Album Chart: 1993 Christmas In Vienna #154

Adult Contemporary:

1985 Chain Reaction #25
1989 If We Hold On Together #23
1991 When You Tell Me That You Love Me #26
1996 Voice of The Heart #28
2005 I’ve Got A Crush On You #19 [[with Rod Stewart)

[marv2]

Hey Skooldem, you forgot a few! Just to fill in the blanks:

Jazz Albums: 1993 Stolen Moments #10
Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums: 1993 Stolen Moments #73
Classical Crossover Albums: 1993 Christmas In Vienna #1
Billboard Top 200 Album Chart: 1993 Christmas In Vienna #154

Adult Contemporary:

1985 Chain Reaction #25
1989 If We Hold On Together #23
1991 When You Tell Me That You Love Me #26
1996 Voice of The Heart #28
2005 I’ve Got A Crush On You #19 [[with Rod Stewart)

One more time. Show me the Pop Charts. You know, the Billboard Hot 100. She hasn't placed anything on there since 1984 and her last "Solo Number One" was "Upside Down" in 1980 [[during the Jimmy Carter Administration), gasoline cost $1.25/gallon and a first class postage stamp cost $0.15 cents! It's no wonder why people under the age of 40 have never heard of Diana Ross.

[skooldem1]

Thanks Sugachilehoneybaby. I will revise the list. There are some here who hate "stats". I am not hung up on them, I just feel when people are out there trying to spin things, it is always best to just....hit em with the facts.

Billboard Charts
Date/Title/Peak Position


Classical Crossover Albums:

xx/xx/1993 Christmas In Vienna #1



Jazz Albums


07/01/2006 Blue #2
xx/xx/1993 Stolen Moments #10


Adult Contemporary:

1985 Chain Reaction #25
1989 If We Hold On Together #23
1991 When You Tell Me That You Love Me #26
1996 Voice of The Heart #28
2005 I’ve Got A Crush On You #19 [[with Rod Stewart)



Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums

03/14/2009 Playlist your Way #100
02/03/2007 I Love You #16
07/08/2006 Blue #7
06/05/1999 Everyday is a new Day #47
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #38
05/07/1994 Diana Extended/The Remixes #68
01/01/1994 Forever Diana #88
xx/xx/1993 Stolen Moments #10
11/02/1991 The Force behind the Power #66
07/22/1989 Workin' Overtime #34
06/27/1987 Red Hot Rhythm & Blues #39
11/30/1985 Eaten Alive #27



R&B/Hip-Hop Songs

03/23/1996 If you're not gonna love me right #67
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #77
10/19/1991 When you tell me that you love me #37
?1991 No matter what you do [[w/Al B.Sure) #4
09/30/1989 This House #64
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #3
07/04/1987 Dirty Looks #12
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #10
07/13/1985 Telephone #13
02/23/1985 Missing You #1



Billboard Top 200 Album Chart

02/03/2007 I Love You #32
07/08/2006 Blue #146
06/06/1999 Every Day is a new Day #108
01/14/1995 Take me Higher #114
xx/xx/1993 Christmas In Vienna #154

09/28/1991 The Force behind the power #102
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #116
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #45


Dance/Club Play Songs

06/19/1999 Until we meet Again #2
05/04/1996 I will Survive #37
12/02/1995 Take me Higher #1
06/04/1994 Someday We'll be together/Remix #7
02/22/1992 You're gonna love it #24
04/08/1989 Love Hangover89 #3
06/24/1989 Workin' Overtime #11
09/09/1989 Paradise #11
03/01/1986 Chain Reaction Remix #7
11/09/1985 Eaten Alive #3





http://www.billboard.com/artist/dian...t-history/5566

[marv2]

Thanks Sugachilehoneybaby. I will revise the list. There are some here who hate "stats". I am not hung up on them, I just feel when people are out there trying to spin things, it is always best to just....hit em with the facts.

Billboard Charts
Date/Title/Peak Position


Classical Crossover Albums:

xx/xx/1993 Christmas In Vienna #1



Jazz Albums


07/01/2006 Blue #2
xx/xx/1993 Stolen Moments #10


Adult Contemporary:

1985 Chain Reaction #25
1989 If We Hold On Together #23
1991 When You Tell Me That You Love Me #26
1996 Voice of The Heart #28
2005 I’ve Got A Crush On You #19 [[with Rod Stewart)



Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums

03/14/2009 Playlist your Way #100
02/03/2007 I Love You #16
07/08/2006 Blue #7
06/05/1999 Everyday is a new Day #47
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #38
05/07/1994 Diana Extended/The Remixes #68
01/01/1994 Forever Diana #88
xx/xx/1993 Stolen Moments #10
11/02/1991 The Force behind the Power #66
07/22/1989 Workin' Overtime #34
06/27/1987 Red Hot Rhythm & Blues #39
11/30/1985 Eaten Alive #27



R&B/Hip-Hop Songs

03/23/1996 If you're not gonna love me right #67
10/14/1995 Take me Higher #77
10/19/1991 When you tell me that you love me #37
?1991 No matter what you do [[w/Al B.Sure) #4
09/30/1989 This House #64
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #3
07/04/1987 Dirty Looks #12
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #10
07/13/1985 Telephone #13
02/23/1985 Missing You #1



Billboard Top 200 Album Chart

02/03/2007 I Love You #32
07/08/2006 Blue #146
06/06/1999 Every Day is a new Day #108
01/14/1995 Take me Higher #114
xx/xx/1993 Christmas In Vienna #154

09/28/1991 The Force behind the power #102
07/01/1989 Workin' Overtime #116
11/16/1985 Eaten Alive #45


Dance/Club Play Songs

06/19/1999 Until we meet Again #2
05/04/1996 I will Survive #37
12/02/1995 Take me Higher #1
06/04/1994 Someday We'll be together/Remix #7
02/22/1992 You're gonna love it #24
04/08/1989 Love Hangover89 #3
06/24/1989 Workin' Overtime #11
09/09/1989 Paradise #11
03/01/1986 Chain Reaction Remix #7
11/09/1985 Eaten Alive #3





http://www.billboard.com/artist/dian...t-history/5566

The facts are she has had no hits in America in almost two generations and from a clip I saw recently, she is not sounding too good today on stage. Just live for the memories I guess.

[Glenpwood]

Since the charts mean so much to a certain posters as the only benchmark of success, may I point out that our Lady of Parking Lots Shantel Baker has had a higher charting hit, Love Attack, on the R&B chart, than Mary Wilson had with her single Red Hot. Even Jean Terrell and Scherrie Payne had higher charting solo singles than Mary. Does this mean they are ultimately more important or successful than Mary or any other Supreme, no. I treat all the ladies on a level playing field. They are all talented wonderful individuals who deserve respect. They have all worked hard to maintain the legacy of the Supremes and keep the music alive, even if they didn't neccessarily find a way to regroup to work together in their original lineups to do so. It's this level of foolishness that "fans" and "haters" exhibit that gives the ladies plenty of reasons to stay home or solo. The internet may bring people together but it seems to give the Supremes plenty or reason to stay apart if they read some of the venom on the web. I can't say I would blame them.....

[144man]

Why don't certain Supremes fans [they know who they are] realise that all their tedious infighting is doing is tarnishing the Supremes' memory? Such an outstanding group deserves to have left a better legacy.

[jobeterob]

I so totally agree with Glen and 144Man.

So much damage has been done to the Supremes and the bulk of it has been hurled by fans.

I recall an interview in the year or two after RTL and it said all the Supremes were all damaged by the fallout but that no one was hurt more than Mary Wilson and they all suffered declining bookings and fees.

Let's hope the last 5 years have stopped that and that the ugly fans have returned to their burrows to hibernate for good.

There are about 3 or 4 mean spirited Wilson and Ross haters that chronically post to YouTube that are the prime offenders and I think they've become known to the Wilson camp at least. YAAAAAAHHHH!

[marv2]

I so totally agree with Glen and 144Man.

So much damage has been done to the Supremes and the bulk of it has been hurled by fans.

I recall an interview in the year or two after RTL and it said all the Supremes were all damaged by the fallout but that no one was hurt more than Mary Wilson and they all suffered declining bookings and fees.

Let's hope the last 5 years have stopped that and that the ugly fans have returned to their burrows to hibernate for good.

There are about 3 or 4 mean spirited Wilson and Ross haters that chronically post to YouTube that are the prime offenders and I think they've become known to the Wilson camp at least. YAAAAAAHHHH!

Mary Wilson is not suffering. You are completely out of your mind or just decided to just make stuff up! Mary Wilson performed over 100 concerts here and around the World just last year. It's funny you did not feel this way when you started that thread "Why Didn't Mary Wilson's Career Ever Take Off?" So as far as I am concern, you can go pound salt! The nerve!@