Jackson 5 Era Recording Sessions in Chronological Order

[Johnny Raven]

So, I made a chronological list of Jackson 5 songs according to master number. It's similar to a list [https://www.mjjcommunity.com/threads.../post-4528098] made by forum member @jaorecords. Shout out to you!
Only songs with known master number are included.

J5	Who's Lovin' You	T1-K-B-683M04
J5	I Want You Back	MW-1-RE-1
J5	ABC	MW-2
J5	The Young Folks	MW-3
J5	The Love You Save	MW-4
J5	I Found That Girl	MW-5
J5	Mama's Pearl	C2-M5-D1-M 4001-1
J5	Darling Dear*	R2-K-M5-692M06
J5	One More Chance	Q-Q-Q-802S03
J5	Darling Dear	R2-B8-K-SS-Q-823S09
J5	Santa Claus is Coming to Town	Q-Q-Q-84701
J5	Christmas Won't Be the Same This Year	Q-Q-Q-84702
J5	Up On the Housetop	60108-15B
J5	I'll Be There	60196
J5	I'm So Happy	60198
J5	Never Can Say Goodbye	60238
J5	I WIll Find a Way	60244-6B
J5	If I Have to Move a Mountain	60264
MJ	You Can Cry on My Shoulder	60265
J5	She's Good	60294
J5	Love Song	60370
J5	Maybe Tommorow	60374-2K/60374-3K
J5	You Made Me What I Am	60463
MJ	Got to Be There	60497-4B
MJ	Maria	60498-5A
J5	Sugar Daddy	60573
JJ	I Lost My Love In the Big City	60634
J5	Love Call	60666-1A
MJ	Rockin' Robin	60767
MJ	Love is Here and Now You're Gone	60800
MJ	We've Got a Good Thing	60804
MJ	I Wanna Be Where You Are	60812
JJ	Take Me in Your Arms	60819-2A
MJ	Everybody's Somebody's Fool	60833
J5	To Know	60943-15-A
J5	Little Bitty Pretty One	60959
JJ	That's How Love Goes	61098-2A
J5	Lookin' Through the Windows	61105
MJ	Ben	61234
JJ	Daddy's Home	61286
J5	Corner of the Sky	61511-10A
JJ	Does Your Mama Know About Me	61539-7B
MJ	Morning Glow	61562
MJ	Doggin' Around	61578
MJ	With a Child's Heart	61664-S
J5	Would Ya Would Ya Baby	61679
MJ	Up Again	61691
J5	I Can't Quit Your Love	61807
MJ	Melody/Melodie	61836-6-A
J5	Touch	61879-5B
J5	Hallelujah Day	61899-26C
JJ	You're In Good Hands	62081-S
J5	Mama I Gotta Brand New Thing [[Don't Say No)	62210
J5	I Am Love Pt. 1	62222-RE1
J5	I Am Love Pt. 2	62222-8B
J5	You Need Love Like I Do [[Don't You)	62243
MJ	You've Really Got a Hold on Me	62254-4-A
MJ	Touch the One You Love	62255
MJ	I'll Come Home to You	62263-2-A
J5	It's Too Late to Change the Time	62276
J5	Get It Together	62284-21B
J5	Dancing Machine	62285
MJ/J5	Whatever You Got, I Want	62303
MJ	Girl, You're So Together	62352-6-A
MJ	Farewell [[My Summer Love)	62353-3-A
MJ	Call On Me	62355
Stevie Wonder feat. J5	You Haven't Done Nothin'	62859-17A
MJ	We're Almost There	62934-17A
MJ	Just A Little Bit of You	62936-2A
MJ	One Day in Your Life	62968
MJ	Dear Michael	63035
MJ	Take Me Back	63065
J5	All I Do is Think of You	63118
J5	Forever Came Today	63121
J5	Body Language	63144-S-03A

[mysterysinger]

Excellent, thanks for that, I've added the master numbers to my J5 database [[which is just an Excel version I set up some time ago based on the source you quoted.

There was a good thread on the J5 sessions a while back. It's nice to be able to put the master numbers in from your list into my spreadsheet to help see how everything fits. There have been several CDs of previously unreleased J5 etc recordings and it was quite hard to keep abreast of what I had and didn't [[yet) have plus what could still potentially be awaiting release.

I know there are several members here who have an interest in the J5 recordings and I'm sure they'll be interested in your list [[and may be able to assist with additional info). Obviously it would be fantastic to be able to put master numbers to everything in time [[album tracks too). Maybe a dry subject but for me it's really fascinating.

[Johnny Raven]

I'm glad you like my list Mysterysinger! The Jackson Five's recording sessions are a very interesting subject to me as well!

Correction: The recording date for "That's How Love Goes" is January 6, 1972. I put the wrong date by accident.

If you know anyone who may have more information on their recording dates and master numbers, or any members who are interested in this list, please inform me!

Thanks!

[mysterysinger]

For the first track listed, "Who's Lovin' You" the time on the label states 2:59, but I believe it actually plays for about 4:22 [[according to 45Cat). Also, on the Canadian version of this single, the matrix for "Who's Lovin' You" is shown as X4KM-4323. USA is T1-K-B-683M04.

[Johnny Raven]

Also, various sources, including the Classic Motown Timeline, indicate that "I Want You Back" was recorded after August 11, 1969 when The Jackson 5 relocated to LA and began working on the first single.

https://classic.motown.com/timeline/

[mysterysinger]

So August may be right [[some sources say July). They seem to have recorded some tracks in Detroit [[with Bobby Taylor) before switching to LA.. Maybe they had a go at "I Want You Back" in Detroit but couldn't get the right feel but either way I think the reference MW-1 for this track indicates the first foray for The Jackson 5 at MoWest [[MW). Must be a precursor to the 60000 series which supposedly began in 1970. "I Want You Back" was released 7th October 1969. There's another thread on this.

[Johnny Raven]

What I'm also trying to figure out is how these master numbers relate to when The Jackson 5 recorded their vocals.
I think the master numbers are more so an indication of when the song was first recorded [[since the numbers are assigned to a track after the session ends).
In most cases, the master numbers I found line up with the sound of Michael's vocals, in other cases they don't.

Take "Morning Glow" for example. The numbers indicate that it was recorded before "Doggin' Around", but his voice sounds much deeper and more mature on the latter, which means that lead vocals were probably recorded or overdubbed later.

But take "Touch" and "Hallelujah Day". The numbers indicate they were recorded soon after "Melody", which would've been around January 1973. Michael's vocals on those songs, however, sound like they could've been recorded earlier between August and November 1972. "Hallelujah Day" in particular sounds similar to "If I Can't Nobody Can" [[which was recorded November 1972 according to the CD booklet). The list jaorecords made [https://www.mjjcommunity.com/threads...6/post-4528098]] also estimates those songs were recorded between August and November 1972.

Then again, CD liner notes are misleading sometimes. Maybe they recorded the track for "If I Can't Nobody Can" in November 1972, but lead vocals were recorded later. Just like " Would Ya Would Ya Baby" [[working title: "When the Real Thing Comes Along"). The track was first recorded in December 1972 [[just as the CD booklet indicated), but Michael's lead vocals were recorded on January 4, 1973. The track sheet below shows the recording dates:

[mysterysinger]

Yes I've seen scans of cards like that in respect of Four Seasons Motown recordings - generally coloured pink. It's worth stating that DFTMC [[Don't Forget The Motor City) shows dates of completion, so to my mind that would be the latest date shown. DFTMC only covers recordings up to 1972.

Others should be able to tell you more but as you're finding out, it doesn't seem to be an exact science - probably due to tracks going over several recording sessions. Nice to know they show when the foot stomps and handclaps were recorded. Perhaps "BG" refers to the backing group.

It's a fascinating subject.

[mysterysinger]

For what it's worth, master 61769 falls between

61764 Charlene Duncan - B side - Give It One More Try Motown 1285FB Released 17 January 1974 and

61770 The Miracles - B side - I Wanna Be With You Tamla 54248FB Released 20 June 1974 [[but already released on the Renaissance album 18 April 1973)