Smokey Robinson accused of sexual assault by ex-housekeepers

[milven]

Smokey Robinson accused of sexual assault by ex-housekeepers

Just tuned to ABC News and they mentioned this.
Guess there will be more details about it later..
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https://nypost.com/2025/05/06/entert...mer-employees/

[Optimal Saint]

More info
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Four housekeepers who worked for Smokey Robinson have filed a civil lawsuit accusing the Motown legend of sexual assault, and claim his wife knew exactly what was happening but never stepped in to stop it.
The women, identified as Jane Does 1-4 in court filings reviewed by The Independent, allege, variously, that Robinson, 85, took advantage of them in areas of his Southern California residence “where closed-circuit cameras weren’t located,” refused to wear a condom, and reveled in humiliating them.


Further, according to the foursome’s complaint, Robinson shorted them on wages and never permitted them rest periods or lunch breaks.
Robinson’s agent and publicist did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Tuesday.

Jane Doe 1 began working for Smokey and Frances Robinson on weekends at their Chatsworth home in January 2023, according to the bombshell complaint, which was filed May 6 in Los Angeles County Superior Court. The first sexual assault occurred that March, when Robinson – as he allegedly did on a “typical Saturday” – would “rush home” after taking his wife to the nail salon, the complaint states.


“Upon returning home… Robinson would call [Jane Doe 1] into his blue bedroom, lock the door and escort their dog Shilo out of the room,” the complaint goes on.
Robinson, clad only in his underwear, would then place a towel on the bed so as “not to soil the bed linens, in preparation for what was about to occur,” the complaint contends. Robinson would then penetrate Jane Doe 1, without protection, while “casually” ignoring her protestations, the complaint continues.……


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2746041.html

[jobeterob]

Sad. Don’t like to hear this or that there are 4 of them saying the same thing.

Wonder how long he’ll stay on Sirius Soultown

[Nothing But Soul]

Sad. Don’t like to hear this or that there are 4 of them saying the same thing.

Wonder how long he’ll stay on Sirius Soultown

I wondered the same thing.

[sansradio]

“How can you be daylight and darkness at the same time” indeed. Allegedly. Goodness alive.

[midnightman]

Sad. Don’t like to hear this or that there are 4 of them saying the same thing.

Wonder how long he’ll stay on Sirius Soultown

He'll likely step down.

As much as I wanna be surprised, I'm actually not.

[sophisticated_soul]

As much as I wanna be surprised, I'm actually not.

My sentiments exactly.

[jobeterob]

I am feeling this is so God bloody awful; I’m so disappointed, much more so than with Michael Jackson because Michael seemed so off course. But Smokey comes off so sincere and so charming.

It’s very difficult not to believe there’s some basic truth when there are multiple people .
providing similar stories.

So disappointing

[mysterysinger]

Sad and worrying reports there.

[DWSheffer]

Whether the allegations are true or not, I'm saddened that this is happening at the twilight of an otherwise legendary 65+ year career....
Darin

[BayouMotownMan]

This wreaks of a setup to me guys.

I always become suspicious when a so-called victim does not report such incidents as described immediately to law enforcement. Instead, they went to a lawyer to get money out of Smokey.

I'd have to hear more but so far, sounds like the shake down of an elderly man

[daviddesper]

I am also suspicious of this whole story. When a woman has been assaulted even once, her natural instinct should kick in and she should run as far away as she can from the situation and/or go straight to the police. The last thing she should do is go right back and say "here I am if you want to do it again." So for any of them to put up with it 20 or more times just doesn't sound logical.

[Starguard4]

This wreaks of a setup to me guys.

I always become suspicious when a so-called victim does not report such incidents as described immediately to law enforcement. Instead, they went to a lawyer to get money out of Smokey.

I'd have to hear more but so far, sounds like the shake down of an elderly man

I'm beginning to see it this way, too.

[BayouMotownMan]

I hesitate to say this stuff because the sympathy immediately goes to the victim and condemnation to the perpetrator is immediate as well.

I just can't see being raped 23 times before speaking out. Smokey was not the only employer in LA. She would have had a stronger case if she had gone to the police immediately after the first encounter, THEN filed the lawsuit. She would have gotten a huge out of court settlement

It was well known that Smokey was a womanizer, he made no secret of that. But if he were a rapist, I think this type of behavior would have been exposed long before he was 85 years of age.

I just don't see a man approaching 90 doing all that he is being accused of.

[DWSheffer]

That was the majority of comments I saw online last evening when the story broke Bayou......and why couldn't these younger women get away from an 85 year old senior citizen? I mean Smoke's in good shape considering, but he IS in his mid-80s for cripe sake!

[BayouMotownMan]

Excellent point DW. I think the ladies are trying to make a Bill Cosby thing out of this. Smokey has admitted to being a womanizer, that is what broke up his marriage to Claudette. But if you let someone "rape" you more than once. Well, I'm sorry, it becomes consensual if you are allowing it.

[BayouMotownMan]

That was the majority of comments I saw online last evening when the story broke Bayou......and why couldn't these younger women get away from an 85 year old senior citizen? I mean Smoke's in good shape considering, but he IS in his mid-80s for cripe sake!

Smokey is actually appearing in Baton Rouge sometime later this month, but I won't go see him. I have seen clips people have posted on Facebook of him in concert. He seems to like to brag about his sexuality [[bet he regrets it now), but when he tries to gyrate in a Tom Jones manner, it's embarrasing. He just looks so arthritic. Also, it's ridiculous the amount of plastic surgery he has had done. Clearly his hair is not his own. I will still say he sounds the same as he did in his 60s, and that's more than most of his Motown contemporaries can do

[midnightman]

^ I think him gyrating and all of that was recent too. I don't get why he thought that was a good idea!

[floyjoy678]

As much as I like Smokey, I cant say I'm surprised. Sexism was extreme back in the Motown days and I'm surprised more of them haven't been exposed.

[1382hitsville]

As much as I like Smokey, I cant say I'm surprised. Sexism was extreme back in the Motown days and I'm surprised more of them haven't been exposed.

Floy, I tend to agree. Smokey has been know to be a cheater. Mr Gordy is known to be a womanizer too, how many affairs? There was a cult of masculine sexuality at Motown, and yes, those were different times.

Still, sad for the victims. Now, I don't do victim blaming, however, these women had to go to the police and file a criminal suit in stead of a civil suit. If you are right, you are right. And perpetrators needs to be held accountable.

[BayouMotownMan]

Floy, I tend to agree. Smokey has been know to be a cheater. Mr Gordy is known to be a womanizer too, how many affairs? There was a cult of masculine sexuality at Motown, and yes, those were different times.

Still, sad for the victims. Now, I don't do victim blaming, however, these women had to go to the police and file a criminal suit in stead of a civil suit. If you are right, you are right. And perpetrators needs to be held accountable.

While I agree, I just don't believe that Smokey is just now being held accountable. At 85?

[marybrewster]

Is this a surprise to anyone?

Smokey has a LONG history of stepping out on his wife, and even fathered at least one child outside of his marriage. He's also been quoted as saying that "loving multiple people "in that way" is natural". I'm sure you've all seen videos of him gyrating on stage. An 85 year old man that could be classy is acting straight up horny. That ain't gonna help his case.

How old was Cosby when his world crumbled? That also went back DECADES. It's never too late to be held accountable for your actions.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

[daviddesper]

With four different accusers, it should be pretty easy to prove or disprove these allegations. Put them in separate rooms, and ask them the same specific questions without any of them knowing what answers the others are giving, and if they all tell essentially the same story with the same details, then that would pretty much prove that it was all true. But if they all hem and haw and act like they are making it up as they go along, then maybe some or all of it is not true.

[BayouMotownMan]

With four different accusers, it should be pretty easy to prove or disprove these allegations. Put them in separate rooms, and ask them the same specific questions without any of them knowing what answers the others are giving, and if they all tell essentially the same story with the same details, then that would pretty much prove that it was all true. But if they all hem and haw and act like they are making it up as they go along, then maybe some or all of it is not true.

Well not necessarily, if all four have rehearsed the same story. The only definitive way to prove is the Monica Lewinsky method...DNA which I am sure is not available. Either way it is there word against his. If other employees or family members come forward with accusations like the ladies were trying to get money from Smokey before filing this, that would be a quick shutdown as well

[Roberta75]

Maybe these 4 women were undocumented and scared to say anything at the time. The truth will come out in court and if Smokeys innocent he shouldnt settle and if the women are telling the truth it will come out in court. Men have gotten away with sexual abuse for decades and one of the women only left his employment last year. It took Jean Carroll 18 years to come out publicly about the vagina grabbing president and she won her lawsuit. Maybe more women will come forward with accusations and maybe Smokey has some proof that he didn't do anything wrong. Let it play out in court. He may be 85 but age doesnt excuse unlawful behavior just ask Harvey Weinstein.

[Optimal Saint]

Sad. Don’t like to hear this or that there are 4 of them saying the same thing.

Wonder how long he’ll stay on Sirius Soultown

as of this this morning still says Smokey's SoulTown and still playing Smokey songs

I don't know if any of the hosts talked about it at all, I'd doubt it though

[BayouMotownMan]

Maybe these 4 women were undocumented and scared to say anything at the time. The truth will come out in court and if Smokeys innocent he shouldnt settle and if the women are telling the truth it will come out in court. Men have gotten away with sexual abuse for decades and one of the women only left his employment last year. It took Jean Carroll 18 years to come out publicly about the vagina grabbing president and she won her lawsuit. Maybe more women will come forward with accusations and maybe Smokey has some proof that he didn't do anything wrong. Let it play out in court. He may be 85 but age doesnt excuse unlawful behavior just ask Harvey Weinstein.

Jean Carroll's lawsuit has no correlation to this. She sued an unpopular presidential candidate in a totally Democratic-run court. Anywhere else, a woman who charged any man of sexual harrasment with absolutely NO proof, including no witness, over 18 years after the event supposedly occurred, the case would have been thrown out of court.

I remind you of Christine Blasy Ford's case against Bret Kavanaugh. It was purely political. She accused him of trying to rape her at a party over 30 years prior. First of all, when she supposedly broke free of Kavanaugh, instead of running downstairs to the party for help, she runs across the hall and locks herself in a bathroom. That doesn't sound like someone who was really afraid of another person. Second she named four supposed witnesses...NONE of whom corroborated her story. Again, in a regular court of law this would have been dismissed for lack of evidence. You can not convict someone on HE said SHE said.

The fact that the USA has apparently started doing this is disturbing and you will see a big increase in cases where a woman accuses a man for something untoward her simply as retribution because the man did not return her advances. I worked at a place and saw that happen to a manager. But mostly this is done to get a monetary windfall. If the victims were afraid to go the police because they are here illegally they need to be doubly afraid to go before a judge as illegal aliens as well. Either way, they have now exposed themselves.

[jobeterob]

Is this a surprise to anyone?

Smokey has a LONG history of stepping out on his wife, and even fathered at least one child outside of his marriage. He's also been quoted as saying that "loving multiple people "in that way" is natural". I'm sure you've all seen videos of him gyrating on stage. An 85 year old man that could be classy is acting straight up horny. That ain't gonna help his case.

How old was Cosby when his world crumbled? That also went back DECADES. It's never too late to be held accountable for your actions.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

I do agree with where there’s smoke, there’s fire

Too many allegations already and there’s already some similarity

There’s already a lawsuit. Civil claims don’t have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt like criminal matters. A lot will have gone into getting this matter as far as it has - the numbers of times when these are all made up are very rare

[Roberta75]

Jean Carroll's lawsuit has no correlation to this. She sued an unpopular presidential candidate in a totally Democratic-run court. Anywhere else, a woman who charged any man of sexual harrasment with absolutely NO proof, including no witness, over 18 years after the event supposedly occurred, the case would have been thrown out of court.

I remind you of Christine Blasy Ford's case against Bret Kavanaugh. It was purely political. She accused him of trying to rape her at a party over 30 years prior. First of all, when she supposedly broke free of Kavanaugh, instead of running downstairs to the party for help, she runs across the hall and locks herself in a bathroom. That doesn't sound like someone who was really afraid of another person. Second she named four supposed witnesses...NONE of whom corroborated her story. Again, in a regular court of law this would have been dismissed for lack of evidence. You can not convict someone on HE said SHE said.

The fact that the USA has apparently started doing this is disturbing and you will see a big increase in cases where a woman accuses a man for something untoward her simply as retribution because the man did not return her advances. I worked at a place and saw that happen to a manager. But mostly this is done to get a monetary windfall. If the victims were afraid to go the police because they are here illegally they need to be doubly afraid to go before a judge as illegal aliens as well. Either way, they have now exposed themselves.

I was never in Brett Kavanaughn or Christine Blasy Fords company and only they know the truth. As far as Trump goes he self admitted, in fact he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy and like Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew the current President was a frequent guest of Jeffrey Epstein. I believe E Jean Carroll over him any day. It takes some women decades to confront and discuss or report the physical or sexual abuse they endured. Whether you were born here are legally here or undocumented secxal abuse is sexual abuse and rape is rape.

[Roberta75]

I am also suspicious of this whole story. When a woman has been assaulted even once, her natural instinct should kick in and she should run as far away as she can from the situation and/or go straight to the police. The last thing she should do is go right back and say "here I am if you want to do it again." So for any of them to put up with it 20 or more times just doesn't sound logical.

Wow............like a lot of men you just dont get it do you.

[BayouMotownMan]

I was never in Brett Kavanaughn or Christine Blasy Fords company and only they know the truth. As far as Trump goes he self admitted, in fact he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy and like Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew the current President was a frequent guest of Jeffrey Epstein. I believe E Jean Carroll over him any day. It takes some women decades to confront and discuss or report the physical or sexual abuse they endured. Whether you were born here are legally here or undocumented secxal abuse is sexual abuse and rape is rape.

It doesn't take anyone THAT long to bring a charge against someone for a violation. Over that amount of time too many things, like memory for instance, are diluted. There are many victims of sexual abuse. But they never asked for $50 million dollars before making a criminal claim. You can be sure the defense will hammer them in court on why they didn't report Robinson, and it will look bad.

[BayouMotownMan]

Wow............like a lot of men you just dont get it do you.

I guess not when there is common sense involved. I have known men and women who sexually abused, and traumatized. They NEVER came forward. Not 30 yrs later, not if that fear is real.

[Roberta75]

I guess not when there is common sense involved. I have known men and women who sexually abused, and traumatized. They NEVER came forward. Not 30 yrs later, not if that fear is real.

I have to disagree with you. I know some ladies who have waited until their abuser is dead like my cousin who waited 37 years to tell that the family that her stepfather was sexually abusing her and a year later her sister came out and said he was molesting her as well. I swear my Aunty Claudine knew it was going on.

[Roberta75]

It doesn't take anyone THAT long to bring a charge against someone for a violation. Over that amount of time too many things, like memory for instance, are diluted. There are many victims of sexual abuse. But they never asked for $50 million dollars before making a criminal claim. You can be sure the defense will hammer them in court on why they didn't report Robinson, and it will look bad.

If may not even make it to court.

[Roberta75]

It doesn't take anyone THAT long to bring a charge against someone for a violation. Over that amount of time too many things, like memory for instance, are diluted. There are many victims of sexual abuse. But they never asked for $50 million dollars before making a criminal claim. You can be sure the defense will hammer them in court on why they didn't report Robinson, and it will look bad.

I bet there are scores of women that Trump has paid off during the years including the First stripper, I mean first Lady.

[jobeterob]

I wish I could feel more doubt and more hope that Smokey is completely blameless in this but I find I agree more with Roberta and Mary Brewster.

More of these situations go unreported rather than being reported.

Even in the news reports, there are similarities in what they say happened.

It’s possible there may still be a criminal investigation but good luck with proving beyond a reasonable doubt, some details of which happened 20 years ago.

This is terribly sad but the chance of all 4 women saying, oh we lied, we made it up, is about zero. There are still plenty of people who believe Michael Jackson did nothing and with him, the evidence was vastly greater.

[midnightman]

I have to disagree with you. I know some ladies who have waited until their abuser is dead like my cousin who waited 37 years to tell that the family that her stepfather was sexually abusing her and a year later her sister came out and said he was molesting her as well. I swear my Aunty Claudine knew it was going on.

Rick James had a posthumous accusation against him that was later thrown out that he allegedly r*ped a 15-year-old girl while in Buffalo, NY. So that definitely holds weight [[I mean we've seen it with MJ; his accusations didn't stop after death either regardless if people believe it or not).

[midnightman]

Maybe these 4 women were undocumented and scared to say anything at the time. The truth will come out in court and if Smokeys innocent he shouldnt settle and if the women are telling the truth it will come out in court. Men have gotten away with sexual abuse for decades and one of the women only left his employment last year. It took Jean Carroll 18 years to come out publicly about the vagina grabbing president and she won her lawsuit. Maybe more women will come forward with accusations and maybe Smokey has some proof that he didn't do anything wrong. Let it play out in court. He may be 85 but age doesnt excuse unlawful behavior just ask Harvey Weinstein.

What stunned me is that one of the accusers claimed Smokey had settled with women in the past... that's what caused me to believe it more than I was already believing it [[4 women!? Look they all can't lie, be it 1 or 100).

[jobeterob]

What stunned me is that one of the accusers claimed Smokey had settled with women in the past... that's what caused me to believe it more than I was already believing it [[4 women!? Look they all can't lie, be it 1 or 100).

Where did you read this midnight?

[Optimal Saint]

Smokey Robinson has denied allegations of sexual assault, after four former housekeepers of the Motown star filed a lawsuit with claims including sexual battery, false imprisonment, negligence and gender violence.


The suit was filed in a Los Angeles court on 6 May. It also alleges a series of labour violations, including that Robinson and his wife, Frances, failed to pay the women minimum wage and overtime, submitted inaccurate wage statements and created a hostile work environment. The women are seeking financial damages.


Robinson’s lawyer Christopher Frost has responded to the lawsuit, saying that “the evidence … will show that this is simply an ugly method of trying to extract money from an 85-year-old American icon – $50m, to be exact.”




He called the allegations against Robinson and his wife “vile, false”, adding that they “defy credulity” and contain “issues relating to purported timelines, inconsistencies and relationships between the plaintiffs and others”.


Frost accused the plaintiffs’ legal team of “bizarre theatrics” and of “trying to enlist the public as an unwitting participant in the media circus they are trying to create”.…….


https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/may/08/smokey-robinson-denies-four-housekeepers-allegations-of-sexual-assault?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[copley]

All I will say is that the truth will come out one way or another. Smokey is a powerful man with friends in very high places. Women have remained silent in such cases for fear of not being believed. Just google the case of UK BBC TV & Radio personality Jimmy Savile. When he died the flood gates opened to release a volcanic eruption of epic proportions revealing that hundreds of boys, girls & women had been raped or sexually molested over a period of about 40 years. Some victims had reported him but were not believed even though there were suspicions. He was also a powerful man who had raised £m's for charity and had unrestricted access to vulnerable people. He got away with it in plain sight!

[jobeterob]

All I will say is that the truth will come out one way or another. Smokey is a powerful man with friends in very high places. Women have remained silent in such cases for fear of not being believed. Just google the case of UK BBC TV & Radio personality Jimmy Savile. When he died the flood gates opened to release a volcanic eruption of epic proportions revealing that hundreds of boys, girls & women had been raped or sexually molested over a period of about 40 years. Some victims had reported him but were not believed even though there were suspicions. He was also a powerful man who had raised £m's for charity and had unrestricted access to vulnerable people. He got away with it in plain sight!

All very true - you never know for sure

But my experience as a lawyer was when you hear the same story again and again, as Mary Brewster said above - where there’s smoke there’s fire.

Didn’t OJ get away with it? Didn’t MJ get away with it?

[carlo]

Didn’t OJ get away with it? Didn’t MJ get away with it?

Things are a little different now. See Jeffrey Epstein, P. Diddy, etc.

It really comes down to what kind of evidence they have and if it holds up. It is harder to fulfill that burden of proof without having filed police reports and perhaps not being able to pinpoint specific dates. The same thing is happening in the case against Nick Carter of the Backstreet Boys. I last read that with at least one of the claims, the alleged victim came forward with the date and approximate time during which she was abused. The Backstreet Boys' tour manager had kept a very detailed log book of the band's schedule from that era, and was able to prove that Nick was not in the place during the time that the victim had alleged. The series of events didn't lineup. The judge dismissed her case and he was permitted to countersue her for defamation. As with Smokey, multiple women have come forward. The strange thing is that I have felt that Nick Carter is more innocent than Smokey is. Maybe it's because he's become a family man in recent years, but that also doesn't equate itself to innocence.

It will be interesting to see what sorts of evidence comes to light, with this case. Either way, I do find it all very sad. My heart has felt heavy, upon reading up on all of this in the news. I'm trying to keep an open mind, without completely deciding one way or another, until I hear more. However, I will acknowledge that Smokey has never had a clean track record, when it comes to women. That works against him in the court of public opinion and rightly so.

[Circa 1824]

Robinson’s lawyer Christopher Frost has responded to the lawsuit, saying that “the evidence … will show that this is simply an ugly method of trying to extract money from an 85-year-old American icon – $50m, to be exact.”

He called the allegations against Robinson and his wife “vile, false”, adding that they “defy credulity” and contain “issues relating to purported timelines, inconsistencies and relationships between the plaintiffs and others”.


Frost accused the plaintiffs’ legal team of “bizarre theatrics” and of “trying to enlist the public as an unwitting participant in the media circus they are trying to create”.…….

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Already the lawyers are working overtime to sway public opinion and a future jury.

My guess is that the allegations are credible; Smokey pushed those women to satisfy his needs. I believe they very very reluctantly agreed due to his constant pressure, using his power and star-status, and their needing to keep their jobs. It was probably a great gig other than occasionally having to satisfy his sexual needs. Was alcohol involved during the ugly moments?

Many pampered celebrities hate the word "no."

[midnightman]

As Carlo said, Smokey doesn't quite have a clean record when it comes to women. Heck, back in the 70s when he was dating Kandi or whatever her name was during her marriage to Claudette, I think when they first met, she was 16 or 17. He claimed he waited until she got older to "fool around" but even that right there is pretty damn skeevy. Then, of course, he had a funny relationship with Berry's second wife Raynoma. Raynoma said that Smokey would stare at her and tried to find a way to get her to sleep with him, which didn't work according to Raynoma because she was loyal to Berry then. Of course, the affair with Diana when Diana was 17/18-ish [[an affair Diana has never publicly confirmed but Smokey confirmed last year but was trying to make it sound "romantic"... he might've been taken advantage of Diana because he knew how Diana wanted a hit song, who knows?).

And usually with someone who has a reputation of being some ladies' man/heartthrob like Smokey, you get your usual "Smokey don't have to r*pe anyone, he's Smokey Robinson" but they said the same about Jackie Wilson and according to Patti LaBelle, he tried to r*pe her until she screamed as loud as she could so she could escape. Plus one of his daughters, Alexis [[sp?) Taylor said she was the product of a r*pe by Jackie. So just because someone is good looking and gets a lot of female attention doesn't mean they're above trying to take advantage of someone.

Smokey has been a celebrity since 1961. I guess he got to the point in his career and life that he thought he was Teflon. Like every other Motown legend has had dirt spilled out on them during and after their deaths except him. Well I guess everyone has a limit and Smokey finally reached his, regardless if these allegations are true or not. Also, the way he tried to stop Claudette from receiving anymore royalties from her work with the Miracles doesn't sit right with me either. Actually a lot of stuff about Smokey never sat right with me...

[midnightman]

Already the lawyers are working overtime to sway public opinion and a future jury.

My guess is that the allegations are credible; Smokey pushed those women to satisfy his needs. I believe they very very reluctantly agreed due to his constant pressure, using his power and star-status, and their needing to keep their jobs. It was probably a great gig other than occasionally having to satisfy his sexual needs. Was alcohol involved during the ugly moments?

Many pampered celebrities hate the word "no."

That's exactly what it sounds like to me too. And yeah I think they gave in to his demands so they wouldn't be fired. They were coerced so to speak. And you're right. I place Smokey no different than the others who thought they were God's gift to the world. Smokey definitely had that aura about him that thought his sh*t didn't stink...

[Spreadinglove21]

I recall Gladys Horton going off on Smokey Robinson at the end of her post humous published autobiography. So she certainly had no admiration for him as a person.

I also recall seeing some sort of Motown 60 related documentary or new piece in which Berry and Smokey were filmed at Hitsville/Motown Museum reminiscing in the Studio and half the time their conversation drifted into the women they bedded and how they always competed to bed a woman first. It was an icky conversation to hear. That doesn't mean charges are true regarding Robinson, but there's that mentality he has.

Anyone know if Smokey's Soul town is still on Serius XM or has he been given the boot and back to plain old Soultown?

[motony]

having affairs is a whole nother ball game then rape. Yes, Smokeys Soul Town is on and plays a lot better music & variety then the old Soul Town, that played the same 40 songs over & over again.

[Thatkliqkid]

Excellent point DW. I think the ladies are trying to make a Bill Cosby thing out of this. Smokey has admitted to being a womanizer, that is what broke up his marriage to Claudette. But if you let someone "rape" you more than once. Well, I'm sorry, it becomes consensual if you are allowing it.

Look I don't know the validity of the claims against Smokey but this is a disgusting comment to make. There is no "let" in rape. Thats why it is rape. Its done against someone's will. Rape is rape by its very nature no matter if it occurs once or one hundred times and to claim it is consensual just because it could have happened multiple times is sickening.

[sansradio]

Look I don't know the validity of the claims against Smokey but this is a disgusting comment to make. There is no "let" in rape. Thats why it is rape. It’s done against someone's will. Rape is rape by its very nature no matter if it occurs once or one hundred times and to claim it is consensual just because it could have happened multiple times is sickening.

THIS. Every word of it. Marital rape is a thing as well. Thank you.