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    the evolution of the girls' sound

    as usual, had a Sup playlist going while doing housework and the alt version of Stop came on. it doesn't have the A's on it, the mix is q bit different. so made we sort of stop and pay a bit more attention to it.

    BIMAA was recorded prior and M and F did 2 takes on their vocals and then the vocals were layered together. gave such a nice fat sound. listening to the early Stop version, it is lacking that fullness. plus some of the backing vocals we're quite familiar with weren't on the early one. I wonder if after doing Back they wanted to repeat that big vocal sound but didn't have the time with M and F so they added the A's.

    and CSAM was recorded prior to the released version of BL and it really does sound much more like Where. you can hear more common elements between Where and Come versus the released version of BL.

    It's fascinating to sort of line them up and hear how things grew and evolved

    WDOLG - the starting point. the vocals really bounce back and forth. the "baby baby" in the background pops out in between Diana's parts. like vocal ping pong.
    CSAM - takes the heavy drum intro but switches it around. and the vocal ping pong continues but with more substance to the backing parts.
    BL [[released version) - takes the sound to a more elegant realm. the intro drums and clomping feet have been replaced with vibes and chimes.
    BIMAA - since this was recorded next, it's next in line. takes the heavy beat from Where and starts to add more of what would become the "traditional" motown sounds. more horns and piano. things are more mixed to be a wall rather than individual instrumental sounds. this heavier track required a bigger vocal, hence the doubling of M and F
    Stop - takes the heavier sound of Back and makes it more dramatic. the organ swirl in the intro.

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    I think you're right about "Back" and "Stop". Flo and Mary on the 1st version of "Stop" are good, and if it had been released as is, I'm not sure we would have been talking about if there was a need for a fuller sound. However, when you listen to the 1st version and then listen to the 2nd version, it is glaringly obvious which of the two versions packs the better punch: the 2nd one.

    Motown was definitely forging forward with a big, heavier sound. Makes sense that the backing vocals would have to match the energy and vibe of the track. So sometimes it probably did make sense to add the Andantes to achieve this goal. Of course, Flo and Mary were certainly capable on their own, "Nothing But Heartaches" as a great example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RanRan79 View Post
    I think you're right about "Back" and "Stop". Flo and Mary on the 1st version of "Stop" are good, and if it had been released as is, I'm not sure we would have been talking about if there was a need for a fuller sound. However, when you listen to the 1st version and then listen to the 2nd version, it is glaringly obvious which of the two versions packs the better punch: the 2nd one.

    Motown was definitely forging forward with a big, heavier sound. Makes sense that the backing vocals would have to match the energy and vibe of the track. So sometimes it probably did make sense to add the Andantes to achieve this goal. Of course, Flo and Mary were certainly capable on their own, "Nothing But Heartaches" as a great example.
    and BIMAA is one of my fav sup songs, partly because of the full backing vocals. and how perfectly blended it is. Stop is a bit muddy IMO. sure it's a big full sound but i think the As don't blend as well. They're not added to the track like sweetener as they were with the C&W tracks. They should have simply doubled M and F again on Stop

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    "Back" is a perfect song, IMO. Everything is hitting the top: the Funks, Diana, Flo and Mary, the lyrics. There isn't anything on it that I can criticize.

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    The main singers I hear on the released version of Stop! are Jackie and Flo. I really wouldn't be surprised if there were an extra singer or two with the Andantes, Mary and Flo on that one. There's a lot of voices in the background there and it's obvious especially during the chorus.

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    We have discussed this song to death over the years lol. Once again, version one is just Mary and Flo. Version two is Mary, Flo and the Andantes. We would have known by now if there was someone else on this by now lol

    Quote Originally Posted by floyjoy678 View Post
    The main singers I hear on the released version of Stop! are Jackie and Flo. I really wouldn't be surprised if there were an extra singer or two with the Andantes, Mary and Flo on that one. There's a lot of voices in the background there and it's obvious especially during the chorus.

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