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    wow its like a happy ending to a FAIRY-TALE


    well .... except for ....all the collateral damage caused along the way of course

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    Yeah I guess!!

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    what about the two brothers ......nothing about the brothers??

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    I've skipped all but the first two posts here so that I can read the book for myself but Ruth's book was also very candid and she spilled a lot of her own tea. I knew about this one but didn't know if it would live up to expectations. I guess I will place my order.

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    Glenco This thread is me reviewing both Ruth and Anita's books [[[[I read both back-to-back) and yeah Ruth's book is much more candid. That girl is a free spirit.

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    I am now at 1988 in Ruth's book. Everything is falling apart. Ruth said that the Pointers' high point was Breakout, and it was, but going forward after that huge success was scary. She even wonders how Michael Jackson must have felt with the pressure of having to match Thriller's success. I have to say here that although I liked I'm So Excited, the song, the rest of it to me sounded like gimmicky dance music. I much preferred Priority and Energy. Anyway, by the time Contact was released, Ruth felt it was a "desperate" attempt to have another Break Out and it just didn't work as well. I only ever heard Twist My Arm on the radio back then, and I recall laughing. It was so obviously formulaic. Contact went platinum but sold about a third of what Break Out sold. Meanwhile Richard Perry was trying to build his own Motown with his Planet Records, but none of the other acts on it struck big--some not at all. The Pointer Sisters were his biggest group, but by 1986 they were faltering.The following albums didn't even go gold. Ruth knew their momentum was slowing just a few years after their pinnacle Break Out. Nobody was sure what to do--sound familiar?

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    Serious Slammin' was the group's final LP for RCA, and their last with Richard Perry. Ruth said he was going for a harder funk sound like what Cameo was doing and although she understood the thinking, Richard just didn't know how to pull it off. Ruth describes the songs as "tuneless tunes," a viewpoint she still holds today. She says at this point in 1988, "we were so lost." It is scary to me that once you hit the top, there's nowhere to go but down, regardless of your talent or what you have to offer. There were no new hit singles after that

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    Ruth is on husband #5 at this point and he is a winner. Apparently Miss Ruth got her chit together for the most part, so I say all's well that ends well.

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    So the Pointers move over to Motown, but two years after Berry left. Ruth says the one record they did for Motown, Right Rhythm, was so depressingly average that today she can't recall a single song on that project. One reviewer said of the lp: "substandard songs, only routine production and arrangements, and didn't sound very inspired on any number." Ruth agreed with the review. Yikes!

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    Ruth has trouble remembering her current husband by his right name, much less a single song from that album

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    Really? She gushes about him in the book!

    Anyway, At a Christmas party at June's house, Bonnie showed up with her crazy husband Jeffrey Bowen.At this point June and Bonnie formed a sort of alliance, while Anita and Ruth were on the other side. At some point at the party, Jeffrey informed Bonnie that it was time to go. Bonnie refused, so a "scuffle" between her and her husband exploded --and June tried to intervene. Somehow, Bowen broke Junes nose and sprained one of her fingers. So Miss June decided to rearrange his greasy hair with an ice bucket, and she knocked him out!! The police revived him and took him to jail. Oh wait--no--this passage is not written very well, but it turns out Bonnie was the one who got a broken nose, not June. Sorry. But Bonnie went to the National Enquirer and said she broke her own nose.

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    Okay so two paragraphs later Ruthie said that June missed a bunch of performance "due to her injury." Uhhh what injury? She must be talking about a broken nose but I'm not sure.I mean who got the broken nose? It's not clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyC View Post
    The Pointers released I'm So Excited, and it went Top 30 but then stalled. They then released Jump, Automatic, and Neutron Dance, which was picked up for the soundtrack to Beverly Hills Cop. All these songs went top 5 Pop. Then Anita badgered Richard Perry to re-release I'm So Excited and it hit big. Did you guys know the Pointers recorded Prince's song I Feel For You before Chaka Khan? It's true, apparently.
    Side bar: When the vid. for ISE dropped, initially, it included a very noticeable City Girls/BBMA wardrobe malfunction. The part where Ruth [[?) stands up from her Mr. Bubble - inspired bath, except for one area.... ! Needless to say, the vid was re-edited and re-released about a month later. Nothing was EVER said about it on MTV, BET Video Soul or Friday Night Videos [[?) or any other video music channel of the day!! Meanwhile, a very young, impressionable-minded NativeNY was floored! I couldn't tell Moms or little brother...cause I couldn't believe what I had seen. Mind you, this was decades before that infamous JT/Janet kerfuffle AND wardrobe malfunction wasn't in pop culture back then. But I for one couldn't unsee what I saw...a burden I carried until junior high!!

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    That really happened? That isn't mentioned in either book--I wonder why? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyC View Post
    Wowsee wow wow! On the set of Car Wash, Ruth overheard Norman Whitfield demanding of Gwen Dickey [[Rose Royce) "Why can't you sing like the Pointer Sisters? Come on! Put some guts into it!!" I guess I'm thinking that Norman, who was never exactly known for his tact, should have recorded the Pointers if that was what he wanted. I mean it's not fair IMO to expect Sade to sing like Patti Labelle, you know? I loved Gwen's voice! I think Wishing On a Star is one of the most spine-tingling vocals of the 70's!
    Ditto Gwen's WOAS vocals, BobbyC. Silky and sultry at the same time. I innately knew that even as an adolescent NativeNY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceNHarmony View Post
    Yes, my wise friend! Very well stated. 'We all mess up'. And - forgiveness is a major part of pretty much every established philosophy and/or religion. At the risk of being tiring, I say once again: Thanks to you for your info about this book. The Pointer Sisters survived and thrived through decades, musical styles, family problems, you name it. AND - play Neutron Dance at any social gathering and see if people don't dance! The family irradiated joy, and I never for one second thought you did not agree.
    I Second That Emotion. Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyC View Post
    That really happened? That isn't mentioned in either book--I wonder why? LOL
    I stand 1000% behind my post, BobbyC. Which flummoxed me back then. So I'm not surprised it wasn't mentioned btw the 2 books. Chalk it up to a good video editor and what happens to memories as we age, methinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyC View Post
    That really happened? That isn't mentioned in either book--I wonder why? LOL
    I stand 1000% behind my post, BobbyC. Which flummoxed me back then. So I'm not surprised it wasn't mentioned btw the 2 books. Chalk it up to a good video editor and what happens to memories as we age, methinks.

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    Oh trust me, I believe you. after what I've already read in these two books, That's nothing, really. I'm surprised neither Pointer put that in their books--I mean it's kind of funny and not really scandalous when compared with all the crack insanity. Regardless, I am now at a point where June is totally messing up their careers, not showing up to gigs, having a bad attitude when she did bother to show up, and now Bonnie is back on the scene. It's amazing that after Ruthie cleaned herself up, she's very likeable and funny--but June is hitting a wall. It's clear that June wanted her around as a drug buddy. The ladies got a huge gig playing in some big touring festival in Europe for enormous money and June is treating it with near contempt. They all needed the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyC View Post
    Oh trust me, I believe you. after what I've already read in these two books, That's nothing, really. I'm surprised neither Pointer put that in their books--I mean it's kind of funny and not really scandalous when compared with all the crack insanity. Regardless, I am now at a point where June is totally messing up their careers, not showing up to gigs, having a bad attitude when she did bother to show up, and now Bonnie is back on the scene. It's amazing that after Ruthie cleaned herself up, she's very likeable and funny--but June is hitting a wall. It's clear that June wanted her around as a drug buddy. The ladies got a huge gig playing in some big touring festival in Europe for enormous money and June is treating it with near contempt. They all needed the money.
    That old adage: " The bigger they are, the harder they fall" is so so apprpos here. Yowza!

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    Still lurv The 'Pointy Sisters' as we called them back then. Tee hee

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    I called them the Pointless Sisters

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    Okay I'll admit it--I have tears in my eyes. June is dying. She had a stroke, then a heart attack, and then, while she was in the hospital, the doctors found that cancer had basically spread all over her body. Ruth climbed into bed with her as she lay dying, and she and Anita softly sang Fire to her. Incredibly sad.Ruth said she felt June was at peace. Bonnie was not there, probably because she couldn't handle it. I learned in Anita's book that she and Ruth had a falling out when Anita found out Ruth was writing a book. She said she'd never perform with Ruth again. Is that not sad? They were both there for June. I hope they've reconciled. Life is too short.

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    June is gone and Bonnie magically re-appears, wanting to be part of the burial plans. Ruth and Anita wanted to cremate the body but Bonnie felt that would be resigning June to hell. Then Bonnie really stopped the show by offering an ultimatum: Either Ruth and Anita let her back in the group, or she'd refuse to pay a dime for the funeral. Ugh.

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