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    Quote Originally Posted by Circa 1824 View Post
    If you want a hit, you cannot sit home in sweats. You have to get your ass out there. It is your fire and your decision to light it or not. If it stays unlit, so be it.
    Well, maybe she doesn't want a hit. Maybe she just wanted to make another -- possibly last -- album to make her audience happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaap View Post
    Well, maybe she doesn't want a hit. Maybe she just wanted to make another -- possibly last -- album to make her audience happy.
    Did she tell this to her team and record label?

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    She's been semi retired for the past decade and a half or so. Sure she does some short tours, primarily in the US, but her focus is her private and family life. She performs because I guess she enjoys the connection she makes with her audience in a live venue. Last year she couldn't tour so she made the album as a means to sing and perform and get a message out that she conveys in her shows and twitter feed.

    I'm sure she wants it to do well, but I don't think at this point in her life she's willing to knock herself out to promote it. She'll do what she wants so long as it doesn't interfere with her main priorities in life at this juncture in her life. Maybe she'll do some promotion [[interviews, or a streaming concert, or some sort of promotional performances pre-recorded somewhere so as not to travel due to pandemic concerns) when it gets closer to date album is officially released. If she goes ahead with her concerts in the UK next year, maybe another push for the album by including a few of the songs in the show. We shall see. But I accept that she's semi retired and she will only do what she wants to do with regards to her singing career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreadinglove21 View Post
    She's been semi retired for the past decade and a half or so.
    We must have very different definitions of what 'semi-retired' means, as Diana had been very active on the tour/residency circuit, pre-pandemic. Just in the January 2019 to March 2020 period alone, she did approximately 60 shows. You can check out all of her previous dates below. I would say someone like Barbra Streisand is semi-retired, in the performing sense. However, I agree with everything else you stated.

    https://www.setlist.fm/search?query=Diana+Ross

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaap View Post
    Well, maybe she doesn't want a hit. Maybe she just wanted to make another -- possibly last -- album to make her audience happy.
    this is exactly what it is we wanted new material told her it doesn’t matter if it’s promoted we knees to hear that voice , all the songs on this new album are absolutely incredible

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    Quote Originally Posted by after you View Post
    All the songs on this new album are absolutely incredible
    “WOW”. It’s great to hear that the other eleven songs are absolutely incredible. Might you share some thoughts on each song. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by after you View Post
    this is exactly what it is we wanted new material told her it doesn’t matter if it’s promoted we knees to hear that voice , all the songs on this new album are absolutely incredible
    Have you heard all the songs after you? Where did you hear them and what are your thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by after you View Post
    All the songs on this new album are absolutely incredible
    Are the rest of the songs all inspirational?. Any ballads?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by after you View Post
    All the songs on this new album are absolutely incredible
    Do you have a favourite song from the album?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by after you View Post
    this is exactly what it is we wanted new material told her it doesn’t matter if it’s promoted we knees to hear that voice , all the songs on this new album are absolutely incredible
    Yes, please give us a detailed report on the 11 remaining songs. I'd love to hear how incredible each one is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreadinglove21 View Post
    I'm sure she wants it to do well, but I don't think at this point in her life she's willing to knock herself out to promote it. She'll do what she wants so long as it doesn't interfere with her main priorities in life at this juncture in her life.
    I think Jean Terrell tried that about 40 years ago.

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    https://www.billboard.com/articles/b...-billboard-200

    It appears both new Abba singles are charting, according to Billboard.

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    They are charting on Billboards global charts and not very high at that and they did not make the Billboard Hot 100 at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepdishus2001 View Post
    They are charting on Billboards global charts and not very high at that and they did not make the Billboard Hot 100 at all.
    Lol. Isn't that what I just said? It appears both of Abba's new singles are charting, according to Billboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by after you View Post
    ... all the songs on this new album are absolutely incredible...
    That's great that you were one of the privileged few to hear all the songs on the album. How did you manage to do that. All I have heard is a few snippets of a few songs on the internet.

    Chart positions mean nothing nowadays. And when they did matter, they were manipulated. What matters is that she took the time to record and release one more album for her fans

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    What matters today and always is that the songs become part of the world’s DNA. They become classics. Her Motown catalog is the perfect example. Most of her subsequent catalog has been quickly forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circa 1824 View Post
    What matters today and always is that the songs become part of the world’s DNA. They become classics. Her Motown catalog is the perfect example. Most of her subsequent catalog has been quickly forgotten.
    Sad but true.

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    As a fan of both Diana and ABBA, I'm surprised to see ABBA brought up here. Like Carlo said above, it's apples to oranges, but some good points made nonetheless. The anticipation around an ABBA reunion has been building for years. The fact that it's being done in this way, basically pioneering another medium in which artists can continue to live well after they're gone, generates the kind of press coverage that I'm not sure Diana is capable of drawing based on a single album release. There's no competing with what is basically a musical resurrection.

    I should add, there's this tendency to think of ABBA, particularly in the US, as nothing more and nothing less than lightweight European fluff. However, this kind of ignores just how well they handled and continue to handle their business. Between ABBA Gold in 1992 and all the Mamma Mia! spinoffs in the last 20 years, there's this great promotional infrastructure which has been in place for years, enabling their music to work for them, even while ABBA wasn't active as a group, per se. This goes all the way back to the 70s, when they sought to minimize the dependency many acts have on an endless cycle of touring, using their earnings to build their own state-of-the-art studio, finance videos and make the most of TV specials etc.. so they could spend as much time as possible writing and recording. So, in a way this new ABBAtar venture continues on that same trajectory.

    That being said, we should be nicer to Diana, I think. She's one woman, a 77 year old woman whose place in pop culture is secure, and who probably doesn't need to put out a new record. Whether it reaches #1 or #101, the fact that she's doing so should be a cause for celebration, not lament. Unlike some of her peers, she's still alive, active and at this stage in her life and career, still has the creative urge in her.
    Last edited by telekin; 10-08-2021 at 12:35 AM. Reason: Typo

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    And, as a over-50-year fan of Diana's, I might add that world-wide it just may simply be that Abba is more popular.

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