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    The Scientist of Soul - You Can't Help But Fall In Love

    I'm pretty sure that is the groups name and the song came out in the late 60's. The lyrics start out this way:

    The evening summer breeze comes and takes your breath away
    And the one you love sits beside you and you know he's here to stay yeah

    You can'thelp but fall in love, talking about L-O-V-E love

    I'm also pretty sure that this was a local release in Chicago. Anyone know anything about the group?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_june View Post
    I'm pretty sure that is the groups name and the song came out in the late 60's. The lyrics start out this way:

    The evening summer breeze comes and takes your breath away
    And the one you love sits beside you and you know he's here to stay yeah

    You can't help but fall in love, talking about L-O-V-E love

    I'm also pretty sure that this was a local release in Chicago. Anyone know anything about the group?
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    I remember The Scientists of Soul. They were a local Chicago group who had one regional hit with "Be's That Way Sometime" on Kashe Records. Here it is:

    The lyrics you describe are from another song, and it's also not their hit's flip, "Baby, Baby, I Love You". Those lyrics are slightly familiar to me. But, I can't remember the other song, and I don't think I have that record. But I'll look for it. It also doesn't show up on Kashe Records' discography. So, it might have been on a different local Chicago label.

    As to the group, I know that Lee Wells produced them. I think he was a cousin of The Steelers' Kenneth Wells. Thomas Bailey and John Brown were members. I don't remember any of the others, but I think the songwriter, Ira Shy, might have been another. Interesting that they worked with Joe Scott, of The Scott Brothers. He arranged their Kashe cuts.

    Sorry, I can't be of more help, but this was during late 1969 or 1970, when I was only in Chicago for a few months each year, and wasn't listening to the radio much, and wasn't buying many new records.
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    Thanks Robb, I knew you would have some info. I don't think the group nor the song are mentioned in the the Chicago Soul book either. I remember listening to the late DJ, Herb Kent playing the song as I was raking up leaves one fall day back then. The song is a very nice recording by the way. I have it dubbed onto a CD but don't remember the original source.

    Edit: A lady on Youtube said this when she found "Be That Way Sometime" listed there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC2DqYFEKwg.

    Lovin Spirit
    7 years ago
    OMG....I can't believe I found this. This is my uncle and his group. Thomas Bailey was my uncle, he just passed on 12/9. The only other member I know I that still lives is John Brown. He's here in Wilmington, DE. Oh3

    She said would check on "You Can't Help But Fall In Love"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_june View Post
    Thanks Robb, I knew you would have some info. I don't think the group nor the song are mentioned in the the Chicago Soul book either. I remember listening to the late DJ, Herb Kent playing the song as I was raking up leaves one fall day back then. The song is a very nice recording by the way. I have it dubbed onto a CD but don't remember the original source.
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    Can you post a soundfile of it on this thread? Maybe it can trigger my memory. There seems to be no video of The Scientists of Soul - "You Can't Help But Fall In Love", nor does it come up when googled. Was it a fast song like "Be's That Way", or was it a ballad? I recall it as mid-tempo, but it's only a faint memory. Too bad Bob Abrahamian is no longer with us. He'd be able to tell us everything about the record, and probably be in contact with John Brown, the group member who is still with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_june View Post
    Thanks Robb, I knew you would have some info. I don't think the group nor the song are mentioned in the the Chicago Soul book either. I remember listening to the late DJ, Herb Kent playing the song as I was raking up leaves one fall day back then. The song is a very nice recording by the way. I have it dubbed onto a CD but don't remember the original source.

    Edit: A lady on Youtube said this when she found "Be That Way Sometime" listed there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC2DqYFEKwg.

    Lovin Spirit
    7 years ago
    OMG....I can't believe I found this. This is my uncle and his group. Thomas Bailey was my uncle, he just passed on 12/9. The only other member I know I that still lives is John Brown. He's here in Wilmington, DE. Oh3

    She said would check on "You Can't Help But Fall In Love"
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    Great! I look forward to finding out more about it from Tom, and hearing it again.
    Last edited by robb_k; 07-02-2020 at 12:43 AM.

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    Robb, I guess it was more like a ballad than anything else. I've got the song ripped to my PC but am having trouble getting the file copied to SDF. I'll keep trying. In the mean time, here is another song that was probably local to Chicago that I don't know who the group is. The song is titled "The Big Parade" and some of the lyrics are:

    Make me a face in the crowd, one of the lonely who only can cry and watch the big parade go passing by.

    At the end of the song the group sings "Passing by" repeatly while a deep voice repeats this line about 4X: "And watch the big parade go by" That song was played by DJs on WVON in Chicago.
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    That song is "The Big Parade" by The Trends. It sounds so good because it was written by Van McCoy:

    That song was played for awhile on WVON. It charted locally, but wasn't a local hit. The Trends had a few charted records on Smash Records from 1964-65. They were with ABC from 1966-1970.
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    This was The Trends' big early hit in 1963. I should have put it on The Chicago Soul thread. Thomas Dorsey was their main writer (other than their producer/arranger, Johnny Pate. He was one of their 2 main lead singers:

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    This was one The Trends' best ABC records:

    "If You Don't Dig The Blues", another of their best, is on our recent "Chicago Soul" thread.

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    Thanks for the Trends information. Most of the groups and artist like the Trends are all but forgotten. It makes me sad. I always thought The Big Parade would have been a nice song to play during the Bud Bilikin parade. How do you rip a song off of a CD and make it playable here? I have not been able to copy and paste it.

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    I tried dragging an audio file into the text box, but that doesn't work. The only way I know how to get a sound file into a post is to post a link to the file after it's hosted somewhere on The Internet, so you can link to that specific Internet address (URL). But, this website has a special tool to upload soundfiles IF they are also videofiles. That is located in the post toolbar above the text box, when you start to make a text post. The tool is the second from the right (2nd to last). It looks like film, and is mostly turquoise in colour. You will need to go to a "hosting website", and open an "account" with them. You could do that by opening a You-Tube account. It may be easier if you ask someone like Ralph, just to upload the audio file for you. If you send him a personal message on this website, and he agrees to do it for you, you'll just need to send a copy of your digital file to him, and then he can upload it onto this thread.

    Anyone reading this thread, if you are willing to upload Mr. June's soundfile for him, please send him a personal message. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robb_k View Post
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    I tried dragging an audio file into the text box, but that doesn't work. The only way I know how to get a sound file into a post is to post a link to the file after it's hosted somewhere on The Internet, so you can link to that specific Internet address (URL). But, this website has a special tool to upload soundfiles IF they are also videofiles. That is located in the post toolbar above the text box, when you start to make a text post. The tool is the second from the right (2nd to last). It looks like film, and is mostly turquoise in colour. You will need to go to a "hosting website", and open an "account" with them. You could do that by opening a You-Tube account. It may be easier if you ask someone like Ralph, just to upload the audio file for you. If you send him a personal message on this website, and he agrees to do it for you, you'll just need to send a copy of your digital file to him, and then he can upload it onto this thread.

    Anyone reading this thread, if you are willing to upload Mr. June's soundfile for him, please send him a personal message. Thanks in advance.
    Thanks again Robb, I'll ask Ralph first off.

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    Motown01 provided us with a link to an audio file hosting/sharing website which hosts your audio file that is less than 15 MB, and will allow you to post a link to it. I've gone there to check it out, and it seems legitimate.

    Here's a link for you to go to that website:

    https://sndup.net/

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    Quote Originally Posted by robb_k View Post
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    I remember The Scientists of Soul. They were a local Chicago group who had one regional hit with "Be's That Way Sometime" on Kashe Records. Here it is:
    I kind of like this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_june View Post
    TI always thought The Big Parade would have been a nice song to play during the Bud Bilikin parade.
    Yes it would've been!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RanRan79 View Post
    Yes it would've been!
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    We could have recommended it for this year's Parade. But, unfortunately, The Parade has been cancelled for this year. It will be the first year it hasn't been celebrated since it started in 1929. They even held it during World War II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robb_k View Post
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    We could have recommended it for this year's Parade. But, unfortunately, The Parade has been cancelled for this year. It will be the first year it hasn't been celebrated since it started in 1929. They even held it during World War II.
    I know. It sucks but is understandable. The mere mention of the parade reminds me of my childhood.

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    I am now testing the audio file hosting website. Here's the link to the MP3 I uploaded ("Fighting A Losing Battle" by Billy Butler and The 4 Enchanters, from 1963, Okeh Records). It was originally considered for inclusion in Billy's "Right Track" LP, but later dropped:

    https://sndup.net/4vst

    It works for MP3s, OGG files and WAV files only, and the file must be smaller than 15 MB.
    So, we don't need to convert all our sound files to video files just to link them in a post, or use the insert video tool.

    However, IF we want to use SDF's Insert Video tool to have the song's audio accessible here on an SDF post, we can use MP3 Toolbox's free online service, to convert MP3s to videos, here's the link: https://mp3toolbox.net/mp3_to_mp4#.XxciKed7lhE

    Then, we have to find a media hosting website, like You-Tube, to provide a URL - web address for SDF to link to, to be able to use SDF's "insert video" tool. I used my You-Tube channel to host the new MP4 I made.
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    I used a free online service to change my MP3 audio file to an MP4 video file, and uploaded it to my You-Tube channel. Here is the MP4 which you all can see here on this post, or you can go to my channel on You-Tube to watch (actually listen to) it:

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    Well done Robb, the sound is punchy and true. I am assuming/expecting/hoping this is the first of a treasure trove of rate tracks you will post going forwards. I subscribed to your channel so look forward to it!

    Cheers ☺️. Mike

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    Mr. June,
    If you don't want to deal with the new file creation, conversion, uploading and registering for, and using a hosting service, just send me the sound file, and I'll convert it to MP4, upload it to my You-Tube channel, and post the audio/video here onto this thread.

    I look forward to hearing that song, and any other Chicago Soul songs you have that only came out locally, after I moved away from Chicagoland ('66-'67).

    Thanks.

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    Robb, I have converted it to MP4 but the problem I'm having is that I can't copy to paste elsewhere for some reason. I'm working on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_june View Post
    Robb, I have converted it to MP4 but the problem I'm having is that I can't copy to paste elsewhere for some reason. I'm working on it.
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    If you run into too many technical problems, just send me the MP4 in a PM, and I'll upload it to my You-Tube channel, and post it on this thread.

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