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    Mary’s 15 minutes of fame is/was/will always be a matter of conjecture - but I can tell you firsthand that Mary yes very very very happy with whatever level of celebrity she is and she absolutely does not think of anything as her 15 minutes of fame…… She’s a little exhausted right now and, is not necessarily missing the rehearsals for dancing with the stars. That being said, whatever other people feel about her level of fame, she feels very very good about herself and is thrilled with her life other than she would like a little bit better financial security. And ultimately,How one feels about oneself is what’s important and Mary is quite happy with Mary and I say good for her!

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    I did find out that Mary will be on the View on October 29th

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackguy69 View Post
    I did find out that Mary will be on the View on October 29th
    Same here. This should be great. Whoopi wrote the forward to Mary's book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marv2 View Post
    Oh, that's what it is? LOL!!!
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    WTF they bringing up this Glastonbury event in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by detmotownguy View Post
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    WTF they bringing up this Glastonbury event in this thread?
    So you have a better understanding of real fame I imagine

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobeterob View Post
    So you have a better understanding of real fame I imagine
    Or, perhaps, for a similar reason to someone who brought up Freda Payne's ... assets ... in a completely unrelated thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMotownManiac View Post
    Mary’s 15 minutes of fame is/was/will always be a matter of conjecture - but I can tell you firsthand that Mary yes very very very happy with whatever level of celebrity she is and she absolutely does not think of anything as her 15 minutes of fame…… She’s a little exhausted right now and, is not necessarily missing the rehearsals for dancing with the stars. That being said, whatever other people feel about her level of fame, she feels very very good about herself and is thrilled with her life other than she would like a little bit better financial security. And ultimately,How one feels about oneself is what’s important and Mary is quite happy with Mary and I say good for her!
    That's nice to hear, MM! A bit off-topic of the thread, but good news anyway. As I've said before most of us don't wish poorly for Mary when we make cheeky posts here. We are just engaging in a tad o' 'tit-for-tat' for the benefit of some posters who turn pretty much every thread on the forum into a Diana-Denying hate jeremiad and inserting a bit of reality into the state of Mary's endeavours. Best to you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceNHarmony View Post
    Or, perhaps, for a similar reason to someone who brought up Freda Payne's ... assets ... in a completely unrelated thread!
    Good response! He never questioned why Freda was brought into the thread by his leader did he? One rule for one etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceNHarmony View Post
    That's nice to hear, MM! A bit off-topic of the thread, but good news anyway. As I've said before most of us don't wish poorly for Mary when we make cheeky posts here. We are just engaging in a tad o' 'tit-for-tat' for the benefit of some posters who turn pretty much every thread on the forum into a Diana-Denying hate jeremiad and inserting a bit of reality into the state of Mary's endeavours. Best to you!
    Agreed! I am no fan of Mary Wilson's vocal ability, but i don't wish the lady any misfortune. She has enough problems with her obsessed fan and had to take action to keep him at bay. That is not a nice thing to have to do.

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    And I know you guys don’t wish Mary Any ill will - you are human beings who know the difference between fun banter and evil doings - and I am with you in that there is an much about Mary that annoys the hell out of me as she is not truthful, would rather walk over hot coals in her bare feet then pay for a meal or a drink, and can be quite manipulative in her own very charming way. She is also kind, accomplished, inquisitive, friendly, A blast to be with, Is more fun than anyone I know to share a bottle or two of the grape with, plus - SHE’S AN ORIGINAL SUPREME - DUH!!! LOL

    Mary knows I’m a huge fan of Diana and is totally cool with that, but I don’t talk about her much because I know Mary is “issue laden” on the topic of Diana. I do believe she means it when she said she loves her, but I also believe, and understand why mind you, that she is jealous of her. She may not even be aware of it, but it is in her speak and manifested itself frequently back when she was recording and touring and putting out new records all the time…… I never mentioned that stuff to her like but she would bring it up to me always wanting to know what I thought of this or what I thought of that record or album or tour. If I love something I would be truthful but I wouldn’t go on and on end it would be awkward sometimes being in the car and hearing her current hit on the radio. I was also much more generous with my words if it was a project I didn’t care for. That is the side of Mary that wrote her books and went public with RTL…… A side of Mary I do not like at all and I can admit to a certain level of hypocrisy because my condemnation of these subjects has been verbalized - but quite sparsely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebrock View Post
    Good response! He never questioned why Freda was brought into the thread by his leader did he? One rule for one etc etc
    Right??!! And ... not to mention the importance of the image that was posted of Freda, about an inch from soft-core porn, instead of anything regarding her talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMotownManiac View Post
    And I know you guys don’t wish Mary Any ill will - you are human beings who know the difference between fun banter and evil doings - and I am with you in that there is an much about Mary that annoys the hell out of me as she is not truthful, would rather walk over hot coals in her bare feet then pay for a meal or a drink, and can be quite manipulative in her own very charming way. She is also kind, accomplished, inquisitive, friendly, A blast to be with, Is more fun than anyone I know to share a bottle or two of the grape with, plus - SHE’S AN ORIGINAL SUPREME - DUH!!! LOL

    Mary knows I’m a huge fan of Diana and is totally cool with that, but I don’t talk about her much because I know Mary is “issue laden” on the topic of Diana. I do believe she means it when she said she loves her, but I also believe, and understand why mind you, that she is jealous of her. She may not even be aware of it, but it is in her speak and manifested itself frequently back when she was recording and touring and putting out new records all the time…… I never mentioned that stuff to her like but she would bring it up to me always wanting to know what I thought of this or what I thought of that record or album or tour. If I love something I would be truthful but I wouldn’t go on and on end it would be awkward sometimes being in the car and hearing her current hit on the radio. I was also much more generous with my words if it was a project I didn’t care for. That is the side of Mary that wrote her books and went public with RTL…… A side of Mary I do not like at all and I can admit to a certain level of hypocrisy because my condemnation of these subjects has been verbalized - but quite sparsely.
    Great post my friend. I can totally concur with much of what you say. Mary has her good and bad sides just like the rest of us.
    When i have worked with Diana she has very rarely brought up the subject of Mary. She keeps her feelings and opinions of her very much to herself. She usually referred to The Supremes as "the girls". It was very dignified and i respected her so much for taking the high road when she could quite easily have thrown mud in Mary's direction.
    There are three versions of their story. Diana's, Mary's and the truth. Lets just leave it at that.

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    Diana is a woman who does not let herself go into bitterness. I don't know if it's natural for her or if it's a discipline, but she's very strong.
    When Liza Minnelli won the Oscar, which is an opportunity that rarely happens again, Diana took the high road. Barely 4 years later and she was singing with Liza at Studio 54.
    When you think of all the resentment that some singers have towards Diana, because they don't shine as brightly as she does, you can only admire Miss Ross' attitude.


    I can easily understand why this is difficult for Mary Wilson.

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    I believe Mary wants to love Diana, but cannot keg go of the past - despite her appearance to the contrary. She can let a little dig slip sometimes.....

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    DR strikes me as someone who if bad things happen, she lets it simmer for that day and then the next moves on with her head up. It's easy to buy into the media image that she's always impossible but who doesn't have down days? Most determined people are gonna come out a certain way but they mean well. That's who Diana is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightman View Post
    DR strikes me as someone who if bad things happen, she lets it simmer for that day and then the next moves on with her head up. It's easy to buy into the media image that she's always impossible but who doesn't have down days? Most determined people are gonna come out a certain way but they mean well. That's who Diana is.
    I think Diana Ross can probably carry a grudge as well as anyone else can. What she doesn't do is run all around town talking about it to everybody who will listen. She seems to keep her feelings about a lot of people to herself. In my book that's a good thing. That way when they start slinging mud in her direction, they ultimately only make themselves look bad because the lady isn't slinging anything back. She's living her life unbothered and I love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RanRan79 View Post
    I think Diana Ross can probably carry a grudge as well as anyone else can. What she doesn't do is run all around town talking about it to everybody who will listen. She seems to keep her feelings about a lot of people to herself. In my book that's a good thing. That way when they start slinging mud in her direction, they ultimately only make themselves look bad because the lady isn't slinging anything back. She's living her life unbothered and I love it.
    Right. She never takes it to the streets. I respect that about her. I wish some of my other favorite divas, not naming any names, stopped doing that...

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