[REMOVE ADS]




Results 1 to 11 of 11
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    2,283
    Rep Power
    203

    Article about Flo vs. Motown

    Name:  ABB20BAB-C28E-45D5-87DC-A613E3B89233.jpg
Views: 294
Size:  16.6 KB

    saw this in my Facebook feed hope y’ Can read it

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    43,221
    Rep Power
    600
    It is hard to read. It looks like a Jet Magazine article.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    3,650
    Rep Power
    317
    Quote Originally Posted by marv2 View Post
    It is hard to read. It looks like a Jet Magazine article.
    The article is about a lawsuit that Flo took against Berry, Mary and Diana for conspiring to oust her from the group.

    The outcome of the suit was that Flo settled with Motown for close to $ 143.000 for rights and royalties.

    I guess this was when she gave up her right to future royalties and the Supremes’ name.

    Flo’s lawyer wanted Diana, Mary and Cindy to stop using the Supremes’ name, which he said was worth a million dollars. I guess in the end, he took the much less Motown offer for settlement.

    Her lawyer was Gerald K Dent. Was he the lawyer who ripped her off?

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    9,299
    Rep Power
    519
    Quote Originally Posted by milven View Post
    The article is about a lawsuit that Flo took against Berry, Mary and Diana for conspiring to oust her from the group.

    The outcome of the suit was that Flo settled with Motown for close to $ 143.000 for rights and royalties.

    I guess this was when she gave up her right to future royalties and the Supremes’ name.

    Flo’s lawyer wanted Diana, Mary and Cindy to stop using the Supremes’ name, which he said was worth a million dollars. I guess in the end, he took the much less Motown offer for settlement.

    Her lawyer was Gerald K Dent. Was he the lawyer who ripped her off?
    This article is from 1971, when Flo sued for $8.7 million. She didn't settle. I believe the suit was dismissed when Flo couldn't give back the $160,000 she had previously received in 1968.

    Leonard Baun was the lawyer who ripped her off. Much later, she managed to get some money out of him.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    9,299
    Rep Power
    519

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    3,650
    Rep Power
    317
    Quote Originally Posted by reese View Post
    This article is from 1971, when Flo sued for $8.7 million. She didn't settle. I believe the suit was dismissed when Flo couldn't give back the $160,000 she had previously received in 1968.

    Leonard Baun was the lawyer who ripped her off. Much later, she managed to get some money out of him.
    Thank you. It is much easier to read the link that you supplied. Do I understand the article correctly? Was she trying to stop Motown from using the Supremes' name? Wasn't it discovered years later when Mary was in a battle with Motown to use the name, that Motown had never actually registered or copyrighted the name and did so on the down-low during the dispute with Mary?

    I'm usually wrong about many of these things, but there are plenty of Supreme fans here who can correct and educate me

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    9,299
    Rep Power
    519
    There's so many twists and turns when it comes to these lawsuits. Without the books in front of me, I'll leave it to someone else. But I do recall reading in Mary's book combo that there were some slick moves made when it came to registering the name. I think she alleged crossed out addresses, letters deliberately not being sent on time, and things like that.

    Excerpts from Flo's 1971 suit:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=iU...20dent&f=false
    Last edited by reese; 09-23-2019 at 10:19 AM.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    21,852
    Rep Power
    461
    Interesting that it says they were selling 750,000 records a month

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    8,816
    Rep Power
    396
    Quote Originally Posted by milven View Post
    Thank you. It is much easier to read the link that you supplied. Do I understand the article correctly? Was she trying to stop Motown from using the Supremes' name? Wasn't it discovered years later when Mary was in a battle with Motown to use the name, that Motown had never actually registered or copyrighted the name and did so on the down-low during the dispute with Mary?

    I'm usually wrong about many of these things, but there are plenty of Supreme fans here who can correct and educate me
    yes - according to Mary's updated release of Dreamgirl/Sup Faith, she talks in more details about the fight for ownership of the name supremes. according to mary's book, she and her lawyer discovered that motown had NOT filed for copyright and so mary quickly did so. this might have late 73 or 74.

    then at a later date her lawyer told her "oops we were wrong, motown DOES have the copywrite." but as mary more recently went through all of the documents, she states that she discovered that her application was submitted first and accepted but that the paperwork was sent to motown. or else when her lawyer got the papers, he sent them to motown. they then changed the application so that THEY were the owner, not mary.

    mary's claim is that the lawyer was dishonest with her and basically in cahoots with motown. if i remember correctly, she ends this part of the story saying that she was looking into what legal action against the lawyer. never heard anything more though

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    21,852
    Rep Power
    461
    Mary’s recollection sounds like she was very mixed up; either that or her and Florence only knew and hired crooked lawyers

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    8,816
    Rep Power
    396
    i've never heard much else about the situation so we only have the 1 viewpoint of Mary's.

    as i've found with most things Supreme, reading all of the different viewpoints allows one to aggregate the info and see all sides of a story.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

[REMOVE ADS]

Ralph Terrana
MODERATOR

Welcome to Soulful Detroit! Kindly Consider Turning Off Your Ad BlockingX
Soulful Detroit is a free service that relies on revenue from ad display [regrettably] and donations. We notice that you are using an ad-blocking program that prevents us from earning revenue during your visit.
Ads are REMOVED for Members who donate to Soulful Detroit. [You must be logged in for ads to disappear]
DONATE HERE »
And have Ads removed.