Mary Wilson Reveals She's Open to a Supremes Reunion But Says 'It's Up to Diana' Ross

**marv2** · 09-18-2019, 07:47 PM

From People.com September 18 ,2019 :

https://people.com/music/mary-wilson...on-diana-ross/

**marv2** · 09-18-2019, 07:49 PM

There, Mary confirmed it, she's a cougarrrrr. Growwlllll LOL!

**captainjames** · 09-18-2019, 10:10 PM

How many ways does Diana have to say no ?

**marv2** · 09-18-2019, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by captainjames

How many ways does Diana have to say no ?

Until it catches on with the public and then they'll know who is to blame.........

**Roberta75** · 09-18-2019, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by marv2

Until it catches on with the public and then they'll know who is to blame.........

You come across as a real bit*hy and bitter schoolgirl whos real unhappy and friendless.GROWUP.

**Bluebrock** · 09-19-2019, 02:31 AM

[QUOTE=captainjames;538666]How many ways does Diana have to say no ?[/QUOTE
I don't know James. I really don't know.

**jobeterob** · 09-19-2019, 12:57 AM

Closet case

**Bluebrock** · 09-19-2019, 02:28 AM

Here we go yet again.........

**PeaceNHarmony** · 09-19-2019, 05:44 AM

I think most of us realize that even Wilson knows this return to love will never take place but the fact is mentioning Diana Ross always gets her in the news.

**BigAl** · 09-19-2019, 08:14 AM

Interviewers persist in asking her this question, and others regarding Diane, so what can she do but answer? I'm sure she would prefer not to address those things at all, after all this time, and has alluded to that before. I don't see interviewers asking Diane stuff like this, so there must be a way to keep those questions off the agenda, but then Diane wields a lot more clout with the media than Mary ever will. She and Diane were founding members, however, and are intextricably linked, for better or for worse, in the public's eye. Of course she could always ask interiewers ahead of time not to go there, but that doesn't mean they won't. She could say in a nice way that this ship has sailed, that she and Diane have taken different musical paths, maybe explain that Cindy isn't up to performing, and leave it at that, but she's protective of Cindy's privacy and leaving that out would make simply saying "not gonna happen" sound pretty cold. Shifting the onus to Diane lets Mary off the hook and avoids further explanation.

This makes me remember how George Harrison eventually would answer persistent, annoying questions about a Beatles’ reunion. He got so fed up with the question that he started answering by saying, “There can be no Beatles reunion so long as John Lennon remains dead.” The same could be said of The Supremes: there can be no Supremes’ reunion so long as Florence Ballard remains dead. Of course, Mary’s more diplomatic than that,

**marv2** · 09-19-2019, 10:03 AM

I think it's great that they asked the reunion questions, because that is what the public wants to know. Why haven't they and when will they reunite. Mary has said it is up to Diana Ross. Mary has said that she is all in for it. If one does not happen it will be all Diana Ross fault in the minds of the public and you can just shovel some more mud on her name and reputation.

**TheMotownManiac** · 09-19-2019, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by marv2

I think it's great that they asked the reunion questions, because that is what the public wants to know. Why haven't they and when will they reunite. Mary has said it is up to Diana Ross. Mary has said that she is all in for it. If one does not happen it will be all Diana Ross fault in the minds of the public and you can just shovel some more mud on her name and reputation.

WHAT THE HELL IS MARY TALKING ABOUT??? There cannot be a reunion and she knows it.

Who is the public? Most of the public doesn’t know who they were anymore.

This does nothing to anyone’s reputation with the possible exception of Mary’s. Why doesn’t she tell people the truth? Why doesn’t she tell people there cannot be a reunion because the only two Supremes they could reunite with Are no longer able to reunite resulting in another non-reunion reunion like RTL that made Mary so Unhappy to begin with. She should tell people that, unhappily, there can’t be a reunion because flo is gone and Cindy is retired and that it was a missed opportunity but that folks can still buy Diana Ross and the Supremes ultimate collection and enjoy the music as they originally heard it but the original single mixes in glorious mono Or go see Mary and Diana in their solo shows.

**RanRan79** · 09-20-2019, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by TheMotownManiac

WHAT THE HELL IS MARY TALKING ABOUT??? There cannot be a reunion and she knows it.

Who is the public? Most of the public doesn’t know who they were anymore.

This does nothing to anyone’s reputation with the possible exception of Mary’s. Why doesn’t she tell people the truth? Why doesn’t she tell people there cannot be a reunion because the only two Supremes they could reunite with Are no longer able to reunite resulting in another non-reunion reunion like RTL that made Mary so Unhappy to begin with. She should tell people that, unhappily, there can’t be a reunion because flo is gone and Cindy is retired and that it was a missed opportunity but that folks can still buy Diana Ross and the Supremes ultimate collection and enjoy the music as they originally heard it but the original single mixes in glorious mono Or go see Mary and Diana in their solo shows.

Okay, we all love Cindy, but nobody cares about her. And I don't mean to come across callous. I personally love Cindy and what she means to the story of the Supremes. But Cindy was a replacement. Yes, she sang with Ross. Yes, she participated in high profile television appearances and promoted a couple of Supremes hits that she did not sing on. But when the public thinks SUPREMES, that image is Diana Ross, Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard. So Cindy's participation in any reunion would be welcomed, but that's not who the public cared to see [[because hardly no one cares now). As long as Ross and Wilson take the stage together, with or without a third person, that's the only Supremes reunion the public would give a crap about. So to be fair to Mary, the reunion does hinge on Diana. If Diana called Mary up tonight and said lets do it, Mary would jump at the chance. I think Mary learned her lesson back in 2000 not to cut off her nose to spite her face. She thought the drama of the situation would pay off more than the tour. She probably has yet to be handed or offered a four million dollar check since. I'm sure she's kicking herself.

**TheMotownManiac** · 09-20-2019, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by RanRan79

Okay, we all love Cindy, but nobody cares about her. And I don't mean to come across callous. I personally love Cindy and what she means to the story of the Supremes. But Cindy was a replacement. Yes, she sang with Ross. Yes, she participated in high profile television appearances and promoted a couple of Supremes hits that she did not sing on. But when the public thinks SUPREMES, that image is Diana Ross, Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard. So Cindy's participation in any reunion would be welcomed, but that's not who the public cared to see [[because hardly no one cares now). As long as Ross and Wilson take the stage together, with or without a third person, that's the only Supremes reunion the public would give a crap about. So to be fair to Mary, the reunion does hinge on Diana. If Diana called Mary up tonight and said lets do it, Mary would jump at the chance. I think Mary learned her lesson back in 2000 not to cut off her nose to spite her face. She thought the drama of the situation would pay off more than the tour. She probably has yet to be handed or offered a four million dollar check since. I'm sure she's kicking herself.

you are spot on about Cindy, except a reunion has to be three Supremes - it can’t just be Mary and Ross, so a third will have to be added and then it will not be a true reunion which is what mary was crabbing about for the last 19 years. While I don’t think Diana will do a reunion, I think there’s even less chance that she would go out with mary as a duo…… Make that zero chance.

And there’s more to it. Right now ABC has mary running around doing a ton of publicity and mary is loving it…… She gives sensational interviews and she loves the attention and it’s all wonderful for her and I’m happy for her that for the first time in her entire career she’s getting all this positive press that has nothing to do with ross and there’s more to it. Right now ABC has mary running around doing a ton of publicity and mary is loving it…… She gives sensational interviews and she loves the attention and it’s all wonderful for her and I’m happy for her that for the first time in her entire career she’s getting all this positive press that has nothing to do with ross. Diana, is over giving interviews and being asked questions and doing prayers and doing anything beyond what she wants to do and the reunion would require a ton of press. She doesn’t even change the songs in her shows I absolutely cannot imagine her going to all the trouble to produce any kind of reunion shell whatsoever whether or not she even would want to would be a relevant I believe because I just think she doesn’t want to do the work and she’s not the type to leave it up to someone else to do so The whole concept is just so far-fetched I can’t believe it’s being discussed by Mary as anything other than “it’s just up to Diana“
Who I believe has spoken on the subject for the final time as it’s unlikely if she ever does another interview she’ll be asked that question because I’m sure it’s on the list of 8 million things that cannot be asked. I think Mary should get together with other former supreme‘s if she wants to do a supreme‘s act again. Who knows, maybe if that happened diana would get antsy and want to come in and do one song or something but I don’t see it and I’m not 100% happy with Mary I was not being as forthcoming as I would like on the subject when asked.

**RanRan79** · 09-20-2019, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by TheMotownManiac

you are spot on about Cindy, except a reunion has to be three Supremes - it can’t just be Mary and Ross, so a third will have to be added and then it will not be a true reunion which is what mary was crabbing about for the last 19 years. While I don’t think Diana will do a reunion, I think there’s even less chance that she would go out with mary as a duo…… Make that zero chance.

A tour will never happen. That ship has sailed. I think if we ever see these two women take the stage together again it will be a one time deal. Either a television appearance, like an awards show, which only needs Ross and Wilson to work, or maybe a charity concert, which I'm sure an extra Supreme could be persuaded into participating in. But no tour. Aint gonna happen.

**RanRan79** · 09-20-2019, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by marv2

I think it's great that they asked the reunion questions, because that is what the public wants to know. Why haven't they and when will they reunite. Mary has said it is up to Diana Ross. Mary has said that she is all in for it. If one does not happen it will be all Diana Ross fault in the minds of the public and you can just shovel some more mud on her name and reputation.

You really think the public cares? The general public washed their hands of the two living Supremes [[from the original trio) reuniting after the RTL debacle. Nobody cares except a select few. If it never happens- and it probably won't- no one will blame Diana Ross because nobody cares enough about the subject. When the dirt has been tossed on the grave of Diana Ross, 99.9 percent of what people will be talking about is her legendary career, both as a Supreme and as a soloist. They will speak of her captivating, one of a kind voice. They will talk about her icon status and her trailblazing standard of glamour. They will even talk about how she is the matriarch of a family of creative and intelligent children who have managed to start families of their own, find their own lanes of success, have avoided legal issues, and above all else seem to have a great love and respect for their mother. While so many people are singing her praises, the 0.0001 percent of people will talk about how Diana Ross was the cause of the public being denied a Diana Ross reunion with Mary Wilson.

**marv2** · 09-20-2019, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by RanRan79

You really think the public cares? The general public washed their hands of the two living Supremes [[from the original trio) reuniting after the RTL debacle. Nobody cares except a select few. If it never happens- and it probably won't- no one will blame Diana Ross because nobody cares enough about the subject. When the dirt has been tossed on the grave of Diana Ross, 99.9 percent of what people will be talking about is her legendary career, both as a Supreme and as a soloist. They will speak of her captivating, one of a kind voice. They will talk about her icon status and her trailblazing standard of glamour. They will even talk about how she is the matriarch of a family of creative and intelligent children who have managed to start families of their own, find their own lanes of success, have avoided legal issues, and above all else seem to have a great love and respect for their mother. While so many people are singing her praises, the 0.0001 percent of people will talk about how Diana Ross was the cause of the public being denied a Diana Ross reunion with Mary Wilson.

Evidently, some do still care or the question would not be continually asked.

**RanRan79** · 09-20-2019, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by marv2

Evidently, some do still care or the question would not be continually asked.

Reporters care and they care because they feel like her connection to Diana Ross is always the headline. Had Mary carved out a successful career post Supremes, she would hardly get this question. But after two books about being a Supreme and then the very public deterioration of any working relationship between Mary and Diana back in 2000, that becomes the focus of a lot of Mary interviews. Most people in the world never let the thought cross their mind about a Supremes reunion. Only certain diehards.

**marv2** · 09-20-2019, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by RanRan79

You really think the public cares? The general public washed their hands of the two living Supremes [[from the original trio) reuniting after the RTL debacle. Nobody cares except a select few. If it never happens- and it probably won't- no one will blame Diana Ross because nobody cares enough about the subject. When the dirt has been tossed on the grave of Diana Ross, 99.9 percent of what people will be talking about is her legendary career, both as a Supreme and as a soloist. They will speak of her captivating, one of a kind voice. They will talk about her icon status and her trailblazing standard of glamour. They will even talk about how she is the matriarch of a family of creative and intelligent children who have managed to start families of their own, find their own lanes of success, have avoided legal issues, and above all else seem to have a great love and respect for their mother. While so many people are singing her praises, the 0.0001 percent of people will talk about how Diana Ross was the cause of the public being denied a Diana Ross reunion with Mary Wilson.

The talk that you're talking about sounds nice, but is not reality. If it were, they would not say foul [[and true) things about her while she is still alive.

**RanRan79** · 09-20-2019, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by marv2

The talk that you're talking about sounds nice, but is not reality. If it were, they would not say foul [[and true) things about her while she is still alive.

Trolls will. I'm talking about people without Diana Ross Derangement Syndrome. Trust, Diana will not suffer for lack of beautiful things said about her even now.

**marv2** · 09-20-2019, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by RanRan79

Trolls will. I'm talking about people without Diana Ross Derangement Syndrome. Trust, Diana will not suffer for lack of beautiful things said about her even now.

I like that, "Diana Ross Derangement Syndrome". A few months back when TMZ posted the story of Diana's bad experience with the TSA, more than a thousand people commented on their website and the overwhelming majority of the comments were negative towards Ross. They did not even give her the benefit of the doubt. I believe had it been someone else, the negative to positive ratio of commenters would not have been so high.

**midnightman** · 09-20-2019, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by RanRan79

You really think the public cares? The general public washed their hands of the two living Supremes [[from the original trio) reuniting after the RTL debacle. Nobody cares except a select few. If it never happens- and it probably won't- no one will blame Diana Ross because nobody cares enough about the subject. When the dirt has been tossed on the grave of Diana Ross, 99.9 percent of what people will be talking about is her legendary career, both as a Supreme and as a soloist. They will speak of her captivating, one of a kind voice. They will talk about her icon status and her trailblazing standard of glamour. They will even talk about how she is the matriarch of a family of creative and intelligent children who have managed to start families of their own, find their own lanes of success, have avoided legal issues, and above all else seem to have a great love and respect for their mother. While so many people are singing her praises, the 0.0001 percent of people will talk about how Diana Ross was the cause of the public being denied a Diana Ross reunion with Mary Wilson.

Yeah, most obituaries of her when they come will say things like:

"Diana Ross, Trailblazing Motown Diva Who Broke Racial and Gender Barriers, Dead At XXX Age"

Or...

"Motown pioneer Ross dead"

Or...

"Motown icon who set the world on fire and broke barriers in the civil rights era has passed away"

Or...

"Legendary diva Diana Ross dies".

Diana Ross is one of those iconic figures, not just in Motown, but of rock and roll history. Icons don't become has-beens, they will have a slowdown like most icons do but they'll be regarded as icons/legends anyway. Some will probably bring up the Supremes drama but it won't be many that will especially as memory fades with the other group members.

Diana and Flo to a lesser degree are better known than Mary. Flo mainly for the tragic aspect of her young, short life [[just 32 when she passed). Most of the GP would assume that with Flo and Diana leaving, the Supremes just broke up. Mary wasn't an Otis Williams... and most others who are not Motownphiles would think the Supremes era ended with "Stoned Love".

2019 is a much different world than 1989. You got more folks who say they love Diana than hate her. That's not me just being a fan, that's reality.

**RanRan79** · 09-20-2019, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by midnightman

Yeah, most obituaries of her when they come will say things like:

"Diana Ross, Trailblazing Motown Diva Who Broke Racial and Gender Barriers, Dead At XXX Age"

Or...

"Motown pioneer Ross dead"

Or...

"Motown icon who set the world on fire and broke barriers in the civil rights era has passed away"

Or...

"Legendary diva Diana Ross dies".

Diana Ross is one of those iconic figures, not just in Motown, but of rock and roll history. Icons don't become has-beens, they will have a slowdown like most icons do but they'll be regarded as icons/legends anyway. Some will probably bring up the Supremes drama but it won't be many that will especially as memory fades with the other group members.

Diana and Flo to a lesser degree are better known than Mary. Flo mainly for the tragic aspect of her young, short life [[just 32 when she passed). Most of the GP would assume that with Flo and Diana leaving, the Supremes just broke up. Mary wasn't an Otis Williams... and most others who are not Motownphiles would think the Supremes era ended with "Stoned Love".

2019 is a much different world than 1989. You got more folks who say they love Diana than hate her. That's not me just being a fan, that's reality.

Agree 100 percent. Of course we won't be seeing those headlines until Diana is well past 100. That's not me just being a fan, that's reality.

**midnightman** · 09-20-2019, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by RanRan79

Agree 100 percent. Of course we won't be seeing those headlines until Diana is well past 100. That's not me just being a fan, that's reality.

Let's pray she makes it to that magic number though I know we're not promised tomorrow.

**Bluebrock** · 09-20-2019, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by midnightman

Yeah, most obituaries of her when they come will say things like:

"Diana Ross, Trailblazing Motown Diva Who Broke Racial and Gender Barriers, Dead At XXX Age"

Or...

"Motown pioneer Ross dead"

Or...

"Motown icon who set the world on fire and broke barriers in the civil rights era has passed away"

Or...

"Legendary diva Diana Ross dies".

Diana Ross is one of those iconic figures, not just in Motown, but of rock and roll history. Icons don't become has-beens, they will have a slowdown like most icons do but they'll be regarded as icons/legends anyway. Some will probably bring up the Supremes drama but it won't be many that will especially as memory fades with the other group members.

Diana and Flo to a lesser degree are better known than Mary. Flo mainly for the tragic aspect of her young, short life [[just 32 when she passed). Most of the GP would assume that with Flo and Diana leaving, the Supremes just broke up. Mary wasn't an Otis Williams... and most others who are not Motownphiles would think the Supremes era ended with "Stoned Love".

2019 is a much different world than 1989. You got more folks who say they love Diana than hate her. That's not me just being a fan, that's reality.

Another excellent post. I am loving the positivity despite the best efforts of a certain individual to derail the post and wish bad things on Diana Ross. The man brings shame on himself and his family.

**florence** · 09-20-2019, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bluebrock

Another excellent post. I am loving the positivity despite the best efforts of a certain individual to derail the post and wish bad things on Diana Ross. The man brings shame on himself and his family.

And why has the Moderator made no comment particularly about the broken arm post?

**Bluebrock** · 09-20-2019, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by RanRan79

You really think the public cares? The general public washed their hands of the two living Supremes [[from the original trio) reuniting after the RTL debacle. Nobody cares except a select few. If it never happens- and it probably won't- no one will blame Diana Ross because nobody cares enough about the subject. When the dirt has been tossed on the grave of Diana Ross, 99.9 percent of what people will be talking about is her legendary career, both as a Supreme and as a soloist. They will speak of her captivating, one of a kind voice. They will talk about her icon status and her trailblazing standard of glamour. They will even talk about how she is the matriarch of a family of creative and intelligent children who have managed to start families of their own, find their own lanes of success, have avoided legal issues, and above all else seem to have a great love and respect for their mother. While so many people are singing her praises, the 0.0001 percent of people will talk about how Diana Ross was the cause of the public being denied a Diana Ross reunion with Mary Wilson.

Excellent post. I think you said all that needs to be said on the subject. Much respect.

**lucky2012** · 09-20-2019, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by RanRan79

You really think the public cares? The general public washed their hands of the two living Supremes [[from the original trio) reuniting after the RTL debacle. Nobody cares except a select few. If it never happens- and it probably won't- no one will blame Diana Ross because nobody cares enough about the subject. When the dirt has been tossed on the grave of Diana Ross, 99.9 percent of what people will be talking about is her legendary career, both as a Supreme and as a soloist. They will speak of her captivating, one of a kind voice. They will talk about her icon status and her trailblazing standard of glamour. They will even talk about how she is the matriarch of a family of creative and intelligent children who have managed to start families of their own, find their own lanes of success, have avoided legal issues, and above all else seem to have a great love and respect for their mother. While so many people are singing her praises, the 0.0001 percent of people will talk about how Diana Ross was the cause of the public being denied a Diana Ross reunion with Mary Wilson.

Why would you even go there? And with Mary doing DWTS where some of the contestants actually have gotten injured, you'd really take that chance wishing something like that on Ross? I can't think of anything you've said about Diana Ross that's lower than this.

Most people in the world never let the thought cross their mind about a Supremes reunion. Only certain diehards.

]

Trust, Diana will not suffer for lack of beautiful things said about her even now.

I've never agreed with you more, RanRan.

**Roberta75** · 09-19-2019, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by marv2

I think it's great that they asked the reunion questions, because that is what the public wants to know. Why haven't they and when will they reunite. Mary has said it is up to Diana Ross. Mary has said that she is all in for it. If one does not happen it will be all Diana Ross fault in the minds of the public and you can just shovel some more mud on her name and reputation.

Dianas name and reputation are just fine. 3 nights at the John Kennedy Center in Washington DC in January snd bavk at the Wynn in Vegas fir amothet few weeks in February. Sells out without doing a lick of publicity. Its your name and reputation thats covered in dirty mud everywhere you post and that include youtube.

**jobeterob** · 09-19-2019, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Roberta75

Dianas name and reputation are just fine. 3 nights at the John Kennedy Center in Washington DC in January snd bavk at the Wynn in Vegas fir amothet few weeks in February. Sells out without doing a lick of publicity. Its your name and reputation thats covered in dirty mud everywhere you post and that include youtube.

Brutally frank and honest

**PeaceNHarmony** · 09-19-2019, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by jobeterob

Brutally frank and honest

And factually correct, but while Wilson has her Norma Desmond-as-Salome moment [[hehehe) I suppose we can't expect any better.

**vgalindo** · 09-19-2019, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Roberta75

Dianas name and reputation are just fine. 3 nights at the John Kennedy Center in Washington DC in January snd bavk at the Wynn in Vegas fir amothet few weeks in February. Sells out without doing a lick of publicity. Its your name and reputation thats covered in dirty mud everywhere you post and that include youtube.

Thank you Roberta. You are always the voice of reason.

**Roberta75** · 09-19-2019, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by vgalindo

Thank you Roberta. You are always the voice of reason.

Why would a man whos a senior citizen or darned near one be so obsessed and warped, spend his time thinking and hoping than Diana Ross reputation is gonna be ruined if she wont reunite with with her former singing partner from darned near 50 years ago? Diana and Mary are 75 and both in a good place. Flo is no longer with us and Cindys not fit to tour. Its not gonna happen and nobody but a few hundred fans give a hoot. The venom and energy this one spends on Diana Ross is real disturbed and sick imo.

**marv2** · 09-19-2019, 11:54 AM

Maybe Diana Ross could break her arm. Then she can say that she can't do a Supremes Reunion because her arm is broken........hehehehehehehehehe!

**Roberta75** · 09-19-2019, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by marv2

Maybe Diana Ross could break her arm. Then she can say that she can't do a Supremes Reunion because her arm is broken........hehehehehehehehehe!

You get sicker and more toxic with every posting. Hehehehehehehehehehehehe,.

**Bluebrock** · 09-19-2019, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by marv2

Maybe Diana Ross could break her arm. Then she can say that she can't do a Supremes Reunion because her arm is broken........hehehehehehehehehe!

What a disgusting thing to say. This horrible comment aply illustrates the kind of warped individual that you are.

**RanRan79** · 09-20-2019, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by marv2

Maybe Diana Ross could break her arm. Then she can say that she can't do a Supremes Reunion because her arm is broken........hehehehehehehehehe!

Dude something is seriously wrong with you. Why would you even go there? And with Mary doing DWTS where some of the contestants actually have gotten injured, you'd really take that chance wishing something like that on Ross? I can't think of anything you've said about Diana Ross that's lower than this.

**marv2** · 09-19-2019, 03:25 PM

Maybe Diane can continue to tell people that she doesn't know where Mary Wilson is,but I don't think anyone is going to believe her.............

**captainjames** · 09-19-2019, 03:54 PM

The best answer is Flo is no longer with us and Cindy is just not able to do it for a Supreme reunion or a Diana Ross and Supremes reunion. Or Mary could just say Diana told you that she would never go out on that stage with me again and she meant it !!!

**midnightman** · 09-19-2019, 08:56 PM

I understand Motown acts still do the "answer what you're told" thing but can any of them simply say "no comment"???

It's like if I was Mary, I would be PISSED OFF if I keep getting asked if I wanna reunite with an old singing partner that left my group 50 years ago when I got my own stuff to promote.

MARY SHOULD PUT HER FOOT DOWN.

Come on Mary. They don't ask any other living Supreme including THE ONE, but they keep asking you????

Keep it 100, Mary.

**marv2** · 09-20-2019, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by midnightman

I understand Motown acts still do the "answer what you're told" thing but can any of them simply say "no comment"???

It's like if I was Mary, I would be PISSED OFF if I keep getting asked if I wanna reunite with an old singing partner that left my group 50 years ago when I got my own stuff to promote.

MARY SHOULD PUT HER FOOT DOWN.

Come on Mary. They don't ask any other living Supreme including THE ONE, but they keep asking you????

Keep it 100, Mary.

She use to do what you said, but it comes off rude even if the interviewers want to get a response to that question.

**jobeterob** · 09-20-2019, 01:48 AM

I bet she doesn’t care for the question either but also doesn’t get a lot of national press and what are they supposed to ask her? She’s most known for her connection to Diana Ross and the hits Diana sang all the leads on. I don’t think it’s realistic for Mary to tell off a reporter - she is trying to maintain a career at a fairly old age and she doesn’t have a big catalog of hits to fall back on.

**midnightman** · 09-20-2019, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by marv2

She use to do what you said, but it comes off rude even if the interviewers want to get a response to that question.

Oh please. What's stopping her from doing it NOW?

She's supposed to care what people think? GOH.

**Soulmusic4life** · 09-20-2019, 06:29 AM

Diana is such a stuck up little thing. She's such a sell out.

**captainjames** · 09-20-2019, 07:10 AM

Honestly to say "Its Up Diana and I'll do it if she wants" sounds like she is saying, Diana is responsible for all the hits and Diana is the focus of the group and we can't do it without her. Okay I get it ...but Jean is not going to sing with you either and you keep saying she was the best replacement and we had more hits after Diana left. Oh wait ...........I just mentioned Jean is not going to do it either.

Hmm I guess we could ask Barbara if she would do it.....

**midnightman** · 09-20-2019, 11:55 AM

Mary could be the most famous backup singer in the history of pop music, just because of her history with Diana. While I appreciate her efforts in keeping the Supremes' story going for seven more years albeit with LOTS of struggle especially after 1972 when Berry Gordy left his presidential position to focus on spreading Motown as a business rather than a label and her efforts as a post Supremes solo act afterwards, it'll always be overshadowed by the eleven years she sang as one of the three founding members that set the world on fire in the civil rights era '60s: Diana, Florence and Mary. Those three are linked forever no matter who came after them [[sorry Cindy). Only difference is one of them became one of the biggest stars in the world. We can't dispute it. Hate her or love her, but Miss Ross did that.

**marv2** · 09-20-2019, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by midnightman

Mary could be the most famous backup singer in the history of pop music,

You see, she is not a back up singer. Just because a few, 5-6 guys on this forum do not like her and refuse to acknowledge any of her achievements, does not change facts. Mary Wilson has been singing solo for over 40 years and even led some recordings while in the Supremes. Her career did not begin and end in the 1960s. True the original Supremes [[and Berry Gordy) are eternally linked. When Diana dies, they are going to mention Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard. Same thing for Mary.

**RanRan79** · 09-20-2019, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by marv2

You see, she is not a back up singer. Just because a few, 5-6 guys on this forum do not like her and refuse to acknowledge any of her achievements, does not change facts. Mary Wilson has been singing solo for over 40 years and even led some recordings while in the Supremes. Her career did not begin and end in the 1960s. True the original Supremes [[and Berry Gordy) are eternally linked. When Diana dies, they are going to mention Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard. Same thing for Mary.

I agree to a point. When I think of backup singer, I think of someone like the Waters or the Andantes, who were specifically employed as backup singers to other artists. Mary Wilson is famous for being one third of the most successful female group in the world. Her job in that group was more often than not harmonizing background vocals. So to most of the world that is who Mary Wilson is: a backup singer in the Supremes. And to Midnight's point, I'd say she is the most famous of her kind. Definitely the most successful, outside of those "backup singers" who stepped out of their positions and found solo success in music. Trust, even Roz or Betty from the Vandellas tried to get half the attention Mary manages to get, they would get their feelings hurt.

**sup_fan** · 09-23-2019, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by RanRan79

I agree to a point. When I think of backup singer, I think of someone like the Waters or the Andantes, who were specifically employed as backup singers to other artists. Mary Wilson is famous for being one third of the most successful female group in the world. Her job in that group was more often than not harmonizing background vocals. So to most of the world that is who Mary Wilson is: a backup singer in the Supremes. And to Midnight's point, I'd say she is the most famous of her kind. Definitely the most successful, outside of those "backup singers" who stepped out of their positions and found solo success in music. Trust, even Roz or Betty from the Vandellas tried to get half the attention Mary manages to get, they would get their feelings hurt.

you're correct - mary was a member of a group. not just a studio singer who accompanies someone as background vocalist. huge difference. In theory, a group member should be contributing to the strategy and overall presence/appeal of the group. unlike a background singer that is simply a musician on a recording or standing in the background with the orchestra on stage

most certainly during the DMF years, it was more of a group experience, especially live. given their ages, i don't know how much DMF were involved in the management and strategic direction of the group. D probably was due to her relationship with Berry. and then during the DRATS years, C and M probably weren't highly involved in decisions which is unfortunate

once it was JCM, you would think that each woman would have an equal say in matters but i don't know if that was really the case. from the stories i've heard [[and i'll admit they're stories so i don't know for certain) one of Jean's biggest complaints was that the company was dictating what the group would sing, wear, perform, etc. That she wasn't really able to lead the group into the style or direction she wanted.

and during the Scherrie years, it really was just mary running the show.

**Roberta75** · 09-23-2019, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by sup_fan

you're correct - mary was a member of a group. not just a studio singer who accompanies someone as background vocalist. huge difference. In theory, a group member should be contributing to the strategy and overall presence/appeal of the group. unlike a background singer that is simply a musician on a recording or standing in the background with the orchestra on stage

most certainly during the DMF years, it was more of a group experience, especially live. given their ages, i don't know how much DMF were involved in the management and strategic direction of the group. D probably was due to her relationship with Berry. and then during the DRATS years, C and M probably weren't highly involved in decisions which is unfortunate

once it was JCM, you would think that each woman would have an equal say in matters but i don't know if that was really the case. from the stories i've heard [[and i'll admit they're stories so i don't know for certain) one of Jean's biggest complaints was that the company was dictating what the group would sing, wear, perform, etc. That she wasn't really able to lead the group into the style or direction she wanted.

and during the Scherrie years, it really was just mary running the show.

Mary and Pedro to the detrimment of the group.