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  1. #201
    Sounding not unlike the Four Tops
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI2cvDN_wpc

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    More of a tribute, but could have easily been mistaken for Motown!

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by timthemod View Post
    Sounding not unlike the Four Tops
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI2cvDN_wpc
    Agree there!

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    Here's another production by Ex-Motowner, Robert Bateman, and ex-Jobete NY bandleader/arranger, Richard Tee:

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    Here's another Don Davis Solid Hitbound Production:

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    Here's a Frank Wilson cut he produced on himself for L.A. Jobete, but Motown didn't want to release it, so he recorded Connie Clark and released it on L.A. KGFJ DJ Herman Griffith's Joker label:

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    Here's an early Norman Whitfield production from late 1963, while he was working for Thelma Records, put out on his own, K.O. (Knockout) Records, which got him noticed by Motown. It sounds very like a Marvelettes' tune:

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    Here's an early Norman Whitfield production from late 1963, while he was working for Thelma Records, put out on his own, K.O. (Knockout) Records, which got him noticed by Motown. It sounds very like a Marvelettes' tune:

    Sounds reminiscent of the Holland, Dozer & Gorman compositions “Strange I Know” and “Someday, Someway.” Definitely a Marvelettes-type song. Not bad at all.

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    Here's Edwin Starr leading The Holidays for Ed Wingate's Golden World:

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    Here's another song related to Motown's Jobete Music L.A. office from Producer Kent Harris. Debra Dion sang some backgrounds for their L.A. sessions:

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    Here's sometimes Andante, PatLewis, singing a song produced by ex-Motowner Don Davis, and future Motowner. Leon Ware:

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    This is purported to be Brenda Holloway, with herself, Patrice and Pat Hunt singing background, and the male voice might be Chester or Gary Pipkin. It was produced by The Pipkin cousins, who had been producers for Motown in L.A. from 1963-67. It is likely that it was a song they wrote while with L.A. Jobete Music Office, which somehow didn't get bought by Motown:

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    Detroiters Romeo Taylor and Thurman Hollis (Sandy Hollis' father, brother or husband?) recorded this Toledo group in Detroit (Specialty Recorders), and released it after setting up their Me-O label in L.A.:

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    Here'a another Theresa Lindsey cut from Ed Wingate's Golden World, produced by ex-Motowner, Don Davis, and played by the Funk Brothers:

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    Quote Originally Posted by robb_k View Post
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    This is purported to be Brenda Holloway, with herself, Patrice and Pat Hunt singing background, and the male voice might be Chester or Gary Pipkin. It was produced by The Pipkin cousins, who had been producers for Motown in L.A. from 1963-67. It is likely that it was a song they wrote while with L.A. Jobete Music Office, which somehow didn't get bought by Motown:
    Now this is a really good one! It does sound a lot like Brenda Holloway but I’m not totally convinced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mowest View Post
    Now this is a really good one! It does sound a lot like Brenda Holloway but I’m not totally convinced.
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    I'm also not sure it is Brenda. It never even occurred to me back when I bought this new in 1965, that it might be Brenda, as she was contracted to Motown. The Pipkins, like all the producers in Jobete Music's L.A. and N.Y. offices did NOT have exclusive contracts with Motown. They were not only allowed to write songs not offerred to Motown, and produce them on non-Motown artists, but also were allowed to record their own, non-Motown artists for other record companies, using Jobete songs they had written, IF Motown didn't release a record using one of their own singers within six months of Jobete's purchase and publication.

    Several sources say it was Brenda, Patrice, and Pat. But, they may all have "researched" that from sources who got that so-called information from one "source", which could have been a rumour.

    However, my thinking is that it IS true, because Motown people produced it. I think it is a similar situation to Darlene love moonlighting with The Blossoms. Brenda, and, especially, Patrice, didn't get much money from Motown. So, they had a reason to moonlight.

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    Here's one of Johnny Mae Matthews' groups:

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    This was mentioned:

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    Here's Witches and The Warlock, a New York group:

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    Here's one produced by Ex-Motowner, Ed Cobb, using another Van McCoy song, and an L.A. group connected with several people from the L.A. Jobete office:

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    Here'a another Correc-Tone cut by ex-Motowners:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmoStTp_MWo

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    Here's another Correc-Tone cut by ex-Motowners:

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    Here's ex-and future Motowner, Freddie Gorman, produced by ex-Motowners, Don Juan Mancha and Bob Hamilton:

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    The Toys recorded in New York, with no Motown people:

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    Here's a Philly group from the 50s singing a mid 60s Motownish song using no Detroit Connections:

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    Here's The Flirtations before they moved to England, written by ex-Motown writer, Sidney Barnes:

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    The Lollipops sounded like Motown before they got there:

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    Yet another Harry Balk Volumes' record:

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    Here's ex-Motown Serenaders' lead singer, Timothy Wilson, produced by ex-Motown producers, George Kerr and Sidney Barnes. This song was recorded by The Monitors, but not released until after 2010. So Kerr and Barnes could use it on their own artist:

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    This is probably cheating, because it was probably an Anna master:

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    This song, produced and arranged by ex-Motowners, Popcorn Wylie and Sonny Sanders, was first recorded by The Velvelettes, but not released till after 2000. So, Wylie used it at Golden World:

  33. #233
    Thanks robb_k! Fascinating stuff! Boy the competition was fierce back then wasn't it.
    All hoping for that elusive HIT. Exciting times.

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    Here's a J.J. Jackson and Sidney Barnes production:

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Size:  21.1 KBThis was written for and first recorded by The Four Tops, but not released till after 2000. So it could be taken by Wilson and Gordon to a local L.A. label:

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    Another Golden World cut:

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    Here's one from New York's Juggy Murray, using no Detroit people:

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    Here's one from New York's Juggy Murray, using no Detroit people:
    This was a big R&B hit in ’66 (Billboard #2) and a moderate Pop hit (Billboard #45). The percussion is a throwback to Sam Cooke’s “Chain Gang."

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    Here's another from L.A.'s Jobete Music Office:

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    Here's another from L.A.'s Jobete Music Office:
    Did any Motown act ever record this tune?

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    Did any Motown act ever record this tune?
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    Yes. I think it was Barbara Randolph. But I can't remember. The only Jobete purchased cut The L.A. Jobete crew recorded as independent producers which came out on an independent label that Motown DIDN'T record on their OWN artist, that I can think of, was Mary Love's "You urned My Bitter Into Sweet" (the BEST of them all-which makes NO sense!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by robb_k View Post
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    Yes. I think it was Barbara Randolph. But I can't remember. The only Jobete purchased cut The L.A. Jobete crew recorded as independent producers which came out on an independent label that Motown DIDN'T record on their OWN artist, that I can think of, was Mary Love's "You urned My Bitter Into Sweet" (the BEST of them all-which makes NO sense!).
    Thanks robb_k. I found Barbara Randolph’s version on YouTube (very good) as well as Mary Love and Linda Lewis doing “...Bitter Into Sweet.” The latter tune certainly should have been given to a Motown act!

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    Here's the other Correc-Tone cut I meant to post above that ended up just a link to The Marvello's cut already placed on another post:

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    Here's another from Johnnie Mae Matthews and Ollie McLaughlin teaming up:

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    And now the obvious:

  46. #246
    Edwin Starr & Blinky also recorded "I'm So Thankful" for their 1969 LP Just We Two

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    Correc-Tone comes back with Wilson Pickett. Robert Bateman, Sonny Sanders and The Supremes on this one:

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    Popcorn Wylie produced this Adorables' cut:

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    Another obvious one from Ed Wingate's factory:

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    1-2-3 by Len Barry

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