[REMOVE ADS]




Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 51 to 100 of 122
  1. #51
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    8,635
    Rep Power
    525
    So no thoughts on my Wanda Rogers scenario?

  2. #52
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    11,248
    Rep Power
    291
    Yes. Wanda has a Diana vibe . I could see it!

  3. #53
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,798
    Rep Power
    350
    Jimmy Ruffin was asked to become a member of the Temptations. Saundra Edwards joined the Downbeats to become the Elgins. There was therefore the precedent for a solo performer to become a group member.

  4. #54
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    1,270
    Rep Power
    255
    Quote Originally Posted by RanRan79 View Post
    If it's 1869, are you sure it wasn't Lewis and Clark on the American Expedition show?

    LOL, that's a good one! That 1869 error shows what happens to me oh so often...typing on that small keyboard on my phone.

  5. #55
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    6,340
    Rep Power
    346
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebrock View Post
    How was she to know that the men she was attracted to would beat her? If she knew she was going to be beaten by these guys why on earth would she associate with them in the first place? I never met Tammi so I had to rely on 2nd hand information with regards to her personality, but there is never a good enough excuse to beat up a woman.
    You are a gentleman and a gentle man my dear friend.

  6. #56
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    3,646
    Rep Power
    317
    Quote Originally Posted by RanRan79 View Post
    If it's 1869, are you sure it wasn't Lewis and Clark on the American Expedition show?
    Too clever

  7. #57
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    4,282
    Rep Power
    349
    Quote Originally Posted by RanRan79 View Post
    So no thoughts on my Wanda Rogers scenario?
    I don’t think it would have worked at all. I was never crazy about Wanda’s voice to begin with and felt it lacked energy. Her voice may have worked on the jazzier end like “Hunter” and “Don’t Mess With Bill,” but I don’t think she had it vocally in her to do the Supremes material/nightclub style show. They may have gotten the attention from Smokey, but that would have taken away all the magnificent work Frank Wilson did.

    Jean was vocally right on, no pun intended.
    Last edited by bradsupremes; 10-04-2018 at 11:06 PM.

  8. #58
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    118
    Rep Power
    167
    Quote Originally Posted by 144man View Post
    Jimmy Ruffin was asked to become a member of the Temptations. Saundra Edwards joined the Downbeats to become the Elgins. There was therefore the precedent for a solo performer to become a group member.
    My opinion is the lady who should have been considered and replace Diana Ross was Saundra Edwards. As a singer she had the best voice to keep it sounding supreme while bringing something new and unique to The Supremes. She had one of the best voices I ever heard. Saundra was the missed chance.Ive said this many times and Im going to repeat it. Jean Terrell great singer that she is was the wrong woman to replace Diana Ross. She did not fit the image at all. She also seemed much to independant to be in a group.

  9. #59
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    11,248
    Rep Power
    291
    Saundra good choice too tho I’m not sure about her stage presence from the couple of clips I’ve seen. Wanda sure sang Forever with energy and i’ ll Keep on Holdin on tho different from Diana’s flair. Recently watching their debut on Ed Sullivan Jean and Mary and Cindy really hit a homerun!

  10. #60
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    43,221
    Rep Power
    600
    Quote Originally Posted by luke View Post
    Saundra good choice too tho I’m not sure about her stage presence from the couple of clips I’ve seen. Wanda sure sang Forever with energy and i’ ll Keep on Holdin on tho different from Diana’s flair. Recently watching their debut on Ed Sullivan Jean and Mary and Cindy really hit a homerun!
    Believe it or not, after the original group, they are who I think of when I hear the name "Supremes".

  11. #61
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    11,248
    Rep Power
    291
    Oh me too definitely.

  12. #62
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,798
    Rep Power
    350
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantellor View Post
    My opinion is the lady who should have been considered and replace Diana Ross was Saundra Edwards. As a singer she had the best voice to keep it sounding supreme while bringing something new and unique to The Supremes. She had one of the best voices I ever heard. Saundra was the missed chance.Ive said this many times and Im going to repeat it. Jean Terrell great singer that she is was the wrong woman to replace Diana Ross. She did not fit the image at all. She also seemed much to independant to be in a group.
    On listening to the records that Ian Levine produced in the nineties, Saundra Edwards was the only female artist whose voice had actually improved.

  13. #63
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    8,754
    Rep Power
    391
    i definitely do NOT think Wanda would have been a good choice. her voice is limited, at best. it's gorgeous in the husky, whispery low range. but can be grating and seriously off pitch in her head voice. she does not have a soprano range and so vocally she wouldn't have added much to the group given M and C ranges.

    i've not seen much of her live appearances since there are so few, but she doesn't really strike me as a major stage presence. she could certainly sing lead on a song but i don't know that she could really be "mistress of the ceremonies"

    plus with her mental decline and drug use...

    frankly Gladys Horton might have been a better choice

    or what about Ann Bogan? she would have added the r&b/gospel to the group!!

  14. #64
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    11,248
    Rep Power
    291
    Cal Gil!! If she could have become a little more animated, she’d be a great choice.

  15. #65
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    118
    Rep Power
    167
    Wanda Young leading the Supremes. I do not think so. All one had to do was put The Andantes behind her and voila,The Supremes are The Marvelettes. Now Anne Bogan is a very different story. Anne could sang.She could have lead The Supremes easily. She is a great singer with a versatile voice.I even feel if Wanda had to leave The Marvelettes that Anne could have taken over the lead,
    and with the right material and a push ,The Marvelettes could have continued very successfully

  16. #66
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    8,754
    Rep Power
    391
    ^i agree. while i've only heard the few tracks with the M's that Ann did, DAMN!!! and going into the 70s with black pride, afros, Soul Train. the Marvelettes could have really updated their image and sound. gone a bit more funky and gospel too.

  17. #67
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    43,221
    Rep Power
    600
    Quote Originally Posted by sup_fan View Post
    i definitely do NOT think Wanda would have been a good choice. her voice is limited, at best. it's gorgeous in the husky, whispery low range. but can be grating and seriously off pitch in her head voice. she does not have a soprano range and so vocally she wouldn't have added much to the group given M and C ranges.

    i've not seen much of her live appearances since there are so few, but she doesn't really strike me as a major stage presence. she could certainly sing lead on a song but i don't know that she could really be "mistress of the ceremonies"

    plus with her mental decline and drug use...

    frankly Gladys Horton might have been a better choice

    or what about Ann Bogan? she would have added the r&b/gospel to the group!!
    Uh, uh, it wouldn't have worked with Wanda. They would have sounded just like the Marvelettes.

  18. #68
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    43,221
    Rep Power
    600
    Quote Originally Posted by luke View Post
    Cal Gil!! If she could have become a little more animated, she’d be a great choice.
    Cal would have been good.

  19. #69
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,018
    Rep Power
    305
    Quote Originally Posted by reese View Post
    She and Marvin also appeared on "Expo'67," the familiar clip where they are singing outside. Too bad there is no other footage. Although I wonder just how much more TV [[if any) they did after her collapse on stage.
    I only mention Hy Lit, Today and Tonight because there were the only U.S. appearances but the Expo one would be #4 in list of total American shows, yes. They never got a chance to do their duets outside of NA as we all know WHY that never happened. I always looked at both Marvin and Tammi's careers as careers of missed opportunities [[though Marvin eventually did become a permanent global music legend thanks to his '70s and '80s recordings). The magic they could've still done but maybe it was fate that Tammi left as early as she did. Cancer sucks.

  20. #70
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,018
    Rep Power
    305
    Quote Originally Posted by marv2 View Post
    Tammi Terrell had been "out there" in the life since she was 14 years old. She use to go with James Brown and he use to beat her up a lot. I always wonder what exactly did she do to make men want to physically harm her?
    Nothing. And she was the victim of a gang rape at 11. Tammi was used and abused in all the ways you can think. She didn't do nothing to make these a-holes beat her, rape her or any of that.

  21. #71
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,018
    Rep Power
    305
    Quote Originally Posted by johnjeb View Post
    I think the Expo 67 performance is from the Today Show.
    These pics were captioned [[from Divided Soul, I think) as being from The Today Show:




    There are two more pics from that appearance with what appeared to be the Today host and they were being interviewed. Can't seem to find them right now but if you see some of Marvin's documentaries, they're in there.

  22. #72
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,018
    Rep Power
    305
    Quote Originally Posted by blackguy69 View Post
    The tonight show clip was on YouTube
    You can see it on YouTube now. Think Johnny Carson's estate uploaded it [[after someone else posted it and they had it yanked initially) but now people can see it on YouTube with the Carson logo.

  23. #73
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,018
    Rep Power
    305
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebrock View Post
    How was she to know that the men she was attracted to would beat her? If she knew she was going to be beaten by these guys why on earth would she associate with them in the first place? I never met Tammi so I had to rely on 2nd hand information with regards to her personality, but there is never a good enough excuse to beat up a woman.
    Tammi Terrell [[aka Thomasina "Tammy" Montgomery) was just a free spirit. Someone who wasn't gonna let a man tell her what to do.

    And some men who wanted to be in control didn't like that. I mean, one man hit Tammi upside the head with an umbrella and threw her down a flight of stairs [[James) and another hit Tammi's face with his motorcycle helmet [[Ruffin). I don't know how some commenters can ask "what attracted Tammi to these men?" as if she knew how these men were [[she didn't).

    She didn't expect James to do what he did to her because of simple mistakes she made DURING PERFORMANCES, MIND YOU [[and remember, she was only between 16 and 18 years of age when she was with James!) and she didn't think David was as messed up as he was [[he lied to her about being single and then she had to find out David had a wife with three kids and a mistress on the side after he pretended Tammi was his only lady). Tammi by all accounts was a sweetheart [[Marvin confirmed this; he also confirmed Tammi was "Ms. Independent").

    I would've said "a better question to ask is what made these men hit her?" But I answered my question. And in the Tammi/James case, James got belligerent because Tammi "didn't come at the right time" onstage with his cape or whatever it was she should've done. You can also ask the families of the late Marva Whitney and Lyn Collins how horrible James treated them during performances too. It was pretty much the same story!

  24. #74
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,018
    Rep Power
    305
    Quote Originally Posted by RanRan79 View Post
    So no thoughts on my Wanda Rogers scenario?
    Cocaine abuse
    Alcoholism
    Unchecked mental issues

    As Kat said in Unsung, dealing with Wanda was a handful! Imagine her as a Supreme, that would've killed the group faster than it did. It took Mary Wilson all of three years to hook up with a man who did play a huge part in killing the Supremes [[thanks Pedro smh), it would've took Wanda all but a year for Motown to be like "yeah let's get rid of the Supremes". That TRULY would've been Berry "washing his hands of the group".

  25. #75
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,018
    Rep Power
    305
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantellor View Post
    Wanda Young leading the Supremes. I do not think so. All one had to do was put The Andantes behind her and voila,The Supremes are The Marvelettes. Now Anne Bogan is a very different story. Anne could sang.She could have lead The Supremes easily. She is a great singer with a versatile voice.I even feel if Wanda had to leave The Marvelettes that Anne could have taken over the lead,
    and with the right material and a push ,The Marvelettes could have continued very successfully
    I agree. Ann Bogan would've been much better. Can you imagine how she would've sounded on Stone Love?! I mean the song is Jean's anthem but imagine it in Ann's hands would've been great and then to hear it live, OMG... Ann, Mary & Cindy would've been a great lineup. Ann had Diana's complexion as well. A beautiful black woman. Definitely would've worked. Also better chemistry since we now know of the clashes between Jean and the others [[particularly Mary).

  26. #76
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    43,221
    Rep Power
    600
    Quote Originally Posted by midnightman View Post
    Tammi Terrell [[aka Thomasina "Tammy" Montgomery) was just a free spirit. Someone who wasn't gonna let a man tell her what to do.

    And some men who wanted to be in control didn't like that. I mean, one man hit Tammi upside the head with an umbrella and threw her down a flight of stairs [[James) and another hit Tammi's face with his motorcycle helmet [[Ruffin). I don't know how some commenters can ask "what attracted Tammi to these men?" as if she knew how these men were [[she didn't).

    She didn't expect James to do what he did to her because of simple mistakes she made DURING PERFORMANCES, MIND YOU [[and remember, she was only between 16 and 18 years of age when she was with James!) and she didn't think David was as messed up as he was [[he lied to her about being single and then she had to find out David had a wife with three kids and a mistress on the side after he pretended Tammi was his only lady). Tammi by all accounts was a sweetheart [[Marvin confirmed this; he also confirmed Tammi was "Ms. Independent").

    I would've said "a better question to ask is what made these men hit her?" But I answered my question. And in the Tammi/James case, James got belligerent because Tammi "didn't come at the right time" onstage with his cape or whatever it was she should've done. You can also ask the families of the late Marva Whitney and Lyn Collins how horrible James treated them during performances too. It was pretty much the same story!
    Why did you leave out the part about Tammi getting David hooked on illegal drugs. This is starting to sound like more of the male bashing that you do around the forum.

  27. #77
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    43,221
    Rep Power
    600
    According to Tammi Terrell's sister Ludie Montgomery, few people know that Tammi was raped and severely beaten by three boys when she was a teenager. So you see she had been getting beat by males most of her life. That is not normal and you cannot get me to believe that she just randomly met and became associated with men that beat women. I'll ask again, what was it about her that cause these things to happen?

  28. #78
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    6,340
    Rep Power
    346
    Quote Originally Posted by marv2 View Post
    According to Tammi Terrell's sister Ludie Montgomery, few people know that Tammi was raped and severely beaten by three boys when she was a teenager. So you see she had been getting beat by males most of her life. That is not normal and you cannot get me to believe that she just randomly met and became associated with men that beat women. I'll ask again, what was it about her that cause these things to happen?
    Not a lick of empathy or feeling for the teenage girl who was raped. You love to blame the woman and support pigs like Pedro Ferrer.

  29. #79
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,018
    Rep Power
    305
    So she should be blamed for a gang rape? She deserved an umbrella aimed at her head? That motorcycle helmet hit?

    Three evil knucklehead ass boys took her virginity WITHOUT her consent. She was only 17 when the James Brown incident occurred and she was dealing with a weirdo who had a wife and kids and a mistress.

    But Tammi is to be blamed?! F*CK THAT SH*T!

  30. #80
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    6,340
    Rep Power
    346
    Quote Originally Posted by midnightman View Post
    So she should be blamed for a gang rape? She deserved an umbrella aimed at her head? That motorcycle helmet hit?

    Three evil knucklehead ass boys took her virginity WITHOUT her consent. She was only 17 when the James Brown incident occurred and she was dealing with a weirdo who had a wife and kids and a mistress.

    But Tammi is to be blamed?! F*CK THAT SH*T!
    Its real shocking to me and that blame the woman mentallity is the reason a rapist is going to be confirmed to sit on the Supreme Court and a sex offender - President Pus*y Grabber mocked a brave woman Christine Blassey Ford at a campaign rally and his ignorant bigoted base cheered him on. Im beyond sick. #Metoo

  31. #81
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,018
    Rep Power
    305
    This is why Tammi, Whitney and Tina are blamed by these men for the f*ck sh*t the men caused and they never are at fault for anything because their behaviors are always excused for "well what did the woman do?" It's a BS mentality that allows ain't crap men to be on top.

  32. #82
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    6,060
    Rep Power
    185
    Quote Originally Posted by marv2 View Post
    Why did you leave out the part about Tammi getting David hooked on illegal drugs. This is starting to sound like more of the male bashing that you do around the forum.
    You really do have a downer on Tammi Terrell don't you? I find the tone of your conversation both sinister and disturbing. I shall leave it at that.

  33. #83
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    8,635
    Rep Power
    525
    Quote Originally Posted by 144man View Post
    Jimmy Ruffin was asked to become a member of the Temptations. Saundra Edwards joined the Downbeats to become the Elgins. There was therefore the precedent for a solo performer to become a group member.
    How many hits did they have? Charting singles? Of course there's always an exception to nearly every rule, but there has never been a point in the history of music during the "rock and roll era" where single artists with any measurable "success" were trying to join singing groups.

  34. #84
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    8,635
    Rep Power
    525
    Quote Originally Posted by bradsupremes View Post
    I don’t think it would have worked at all. I was never crazy about Wanda’s voice to begin with and felt it lacked energy. Her voice may have worked on the jazzier end like “Hunter” and “Don’t Mess With Bill,” but I don’t think she had it vocally in her to do the Supremes material/nightclub style show. They may have gotten the attention from Smokey, but that would have taken away all the magnificent work Frank Wilson did.

    Jean was vocally right on, no pun intended.
    Good point about the Supremes material. While no doubt Wanda would've sounded great on songs like "Where Did Our Love Go" and "My World Is Empty", I don't think her singing "You Can't Hurry Love" or "Hangin On" during the show would've worked. And that would definitely be a part of the equation in trying to replace Diana: what singer could do her famous leads justice. I don't think Wanda could.

  35. #85
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    8,635
    Rep Power
    525
    Quote Originally Posted by sup_fan View Post
    i definitely do NOT think Wanda would have been a good choice. her voice is limited, at best. it's gorgeous in the husky, whispery low range. but can be grating and seriously off pitch in her head voice. she does not have a soprano range and so vocally she wouldn't have added much to the group given M and C ranges.

    i've not seen much of her live appearances since there are so few, but she doesn't really strike me as a major stage presence. she could certainly sing lead on a song but i don't know that she could really be "mistress of the ceremonies"

    plus with her mental decline and drug use...

    frankly Gladys Horton might have been a better choice

    or what about Ann Bogan? she would have added the r&b/gospel to the group!!
    I pointed that out about Wanda maybe being unable to do hosting duties like Ross was so great at doing. Gladys a better replacement? I don't think so. But Ann might have really been a great choice. A very great suggestion.

  36. #86
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    8,635
    Rep Power
    525
    Quote Originally Posted by midnightman View Post

    I would've said "a better question to ask is what made these men hit her?"
    A much better question than the one previously posed. However I do think it's important to point out that there may have been something in Tammi that attracted her to abusive men. Iyanla might ask Tammi about her family, possibly producing a "pathology" that contributed to Tammi's attraction to abusive men. My grandmother would wonder about the spiritual aspect, which would basically be sort of like the pathology thing. Could there have been something in Tammi's first rape as a child that contributed to her inability to navigate toward men who were good for her as she grew older as opposed to those who were bad for her? I've always found it fascinating, listening to or reading about people figuring out the patterns in their lives and why they do the things that they do, or are the way they are. So I definitely think it's inbounds to wonder why Tammi seemed to always end up in these relationships. [[Other than Unsung- much of which I barely remember- I don't know much about Tammi's life outside of the music she left behind.)

    But that's a whole 'nother world than asking what she did to make these men do anything. If you ask that, then you have to also ask what was it about the other women these men abused that made the men want to do that to them also. After all, just like Tammi had a pattern, so did these men. And people wonder why rape victims and other sexual assault and harrassment victims and domestic abuse victims so rarely reach out for help. It has to suck to listen to person after person wonder what you did to deserve being raped/beaten/touched.
    Last edited by RanRan79; 10-06-2018 at 04:07 PM.

  37. #87
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    8,635
    Rep Power
    525
    Quote Originally Posted by midnightman View Post
    Cocaine abuse
    Alcoholism
    Unchecked mental issues

    As Kat said in Unsung, dealing with Wanda was a handful! Imagine her as a Supreme, that would've killed the group faster than it did. It took Mary Wilson all of three years to hook up with a man who did play a huge part in killing the Supremes [[thanks Pedro smh), it would've took Wanda all but a year for Motown to be like "yeah let's get rid of the Supremes". That TRULY would've been Berry "washing his hands of the group".
    Yes Midnight, but in my scenario- as I pointed out- Wanda doesn't have those issues. My scenario is predicated on Wanda being clean and sober because in real life she would never be a contender with her issues.

  38. #88
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    8,635
    Rep Power
    525
    We live in the era of Trump. Why in the world are y'all acting so shocked at the words documented in this thread? This is the real world, ladies and gentlemen, where women can do things that get themselves assaulted.*rolling eyes Smiley without that stupid grin attached*

  39. #89
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    2,386
    Rep Power
    279
    Quote Originally Posted by marv2 View Post
    According to Tammi Terrell's sister Ludie Montgomery, few people know that Tammi was raped and severely beaten by three boys when she was a teenager. So you see she had been getting beat by males most of her life. That is not normal and you cannot get me to believe that she just randomly met and became associated with men that beat women. I'll ask again, what was it about her that cause these things to happen?
    Marv, this is disgusting. I really don't care if it is "just your opinion". It's summarily disgusting. Women do not "cause" men to beat them. Men beat them because the men have problems, not the woman.

  40. #90
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    2,386
    Rep Power
    279
    Quote Originally Posted by RanRan79 View Post
    We live in the era of Trump. Why in the world are y'all acting so shocked at the words documented in this thread? This is the real world, ladies and gentlemen, where women can do things that get themselves assaulted.*rolling eyes Smiley without that stupid grin attached*
    Просто потому, что эта чертова свинья говорит, что это ничего не значит для меня.

  41. #91
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    6,340
    Rep Power
    346
    Quote Originally Posted by thanxal View Post
    Marv, this is disgusting. I really don't care if it is "just your opinion". It's summarily disgusting. Women do not "cause" men to beat them. Men beat them because the men have problems, not the woman.
    Its a real disturbing pattern with him IMO. He defends Cosby and Ike Turner and Pedro Ferrer. Makes me wonder if he supports Kavanaugh and Laur and O'Reilly.

  42. #92
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    8,635
    Rep Power
    525
    Quote Originally Posted by thanxal View Post
    Просто потому, что эта чертова свинья говорит, что это ничего не значит для меня.
    The same goes for the rest of us real men too, my friend.

  43. #93
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    2,386
    Rep Power
    279
    Quote Originally Posted by Roberta75 View Post
    Its a real disturbing pattern with him IMO. He defends Cosby and Ike Turner and Pedro Ferrer. Makes me wonder if he supports Kavanaugh and Laur and O'Reilly.
    I've honestly stopped caring about him, but any statement that a woman deserved a beating can't be left standing.

  44. #94
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    6,340
    Rep Power
    346
    Quote Originally Posted by thanxal View Post
    I've honestly stopped caring about him, but any statement that a woman deserved a beating can't be left standing.
    Exactly. Call em all out. #Metoo

  45. #95
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    10,018
    Rep Power
    305
    Quote Originally Posted by RanRan79 View Post
    Yes Midnight, but in my scenario- as I pointed out- Wanda doesn't have those issues. My scenario is predicated on Wanda being clean and sober because in real life she would never be a contender with her issues.
    Oh...

    Hmm...

    Well now that you put it THAT way...

    I don't know... but maybe there is a place for Wanda if the Supremes headed in another more soulful direction?

  46. #96
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    10,473
    Rep Power
    311
    Quote Originally Posted by ranran79 View Post
    if it's 1869, are you sure it wasn't lewis and clark on the american expedition show?
    hehehehehehehe!!!

  47. #97
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    10,473
    Rep Power
    311
    Tammi was beautiful and talented and i didn't know her,but some women are attracted to abusive men[i've known some who were]it's sad and a bit sick to me but such is life.

  48. #98
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    43,221
    Rep Power
    600
    Quote Originally Posted by arr&bee View Post
    Tammi was beautiful and talented and i didn't know her,but some women are attracted to abusive men[i've known some who were]it's sad and a bit sick to me but such is life.
    Thank you! That is all I was looking for!

  49. #99
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    43,221
    Rep Power
    600
    Quote Originally Posted by thanxal View Post
    Marv, this is disgusting. I really don't care if it is "just your opinion". It's summarily disgusting. Women do not "cause" men to beat them. Men beat them because the men have problems, not the woman.
    I don't care either, but I think you are reading too much into something that is basically simple. Women have caused men to get physically rough to the point of beating them. I saw a woman slap her boyfriend and spit a huge wad in his face at an amusement park once, the guy slapped her back and left her standing there without a ride. Cause and effect. It's up to you to decide if you can deal with that reality of life.

  50. #100
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    2,386
    Rep Power
    279
    Quote Originally Posted by marv2 View Post
    Women have caused men to get physically rough to the point of beating them.
    Marv, lets go back to something you should have learned at about age 5...

    It is never ok for a man to hit a woman.

    See how simple that is?

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

[REMOVE ADS]

Ralph Terrana
MODERATOR

Welcome to Soulful Detroit! Kindly Consider Turning Off Your Ad BlockingX
Soulful Detroit is a free service that relies on revenue from ad display [regrettably] and donations. We notice that you are using an ad-blocking program that prevents us from earning revenue during your visit.
Ads are REMOVED for Members who donate to Soulful Detroit. [You must be logged in for ads to disappear]
DONATE HERE »
And have Ads removed.