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    For years she had as a gypsy girl played the violin, somewhere in a courtyard in the populous black Watts poor neighborhood in the south of Los Angeles. Always there were barking dogs, their wails sounded louder with each stroke. It did not take long for somewhere a window opened and someone shouted, "Can that whine stop now?" Now was that girl from Watts, 17 years young and stylishly dressed in an elegant suit, high boots and a hat, a sloppy 3000 kilometers at home, at the airport in Detroit. On the way to an audition as a soul singer. The shimmering excitement she felt at the idea that they are people like Marvin Gaye, The Supremes and The Four Tops, they meet nearly forgot that she had seen for the first snow. She had to pinch himself in the arm.

    Half a year later, in the summer of 1965, Watts was the scene of race riots. The arrest of a 21-year-old African-American boy who is suspected by police of drunken driving puts the city where outrage over discrimination for years slumbers like wildfire in fire flame. There are at least 34 dead and 1000 wounded. Tanks driving through Bandera Street. In the middle of the week of riots, on August 15, 1965, Brenda Holloway is the only woman in the act for The Beatles as the four acts in New York for 55,000 people. When the dust in the city has settled a bit gives label boss Berry Gordy Holloway family, which with sister and brother Patrice Wade still has two children, a down payment on a house in west Los Angeles. A house where her mother until her death will continue to live. He also sends Brenda to a charm school where her social skills are taught, in addition to the etiquette lessons they like the other singers get at Motown Maxine Powell. Brenda Holloway is short, incorporated in the label of 'the sound of young America. "

    Her first single, the wistful Every Little Bit Hurts - later frequently been covered by artists as diverse as The Jam, The Clash, Laura Lee, the Spencer Davis Group and Alicia Keys - is at once its biggest hit. On stage she is initially a sensual piece of dynamite, so much so that Motown-celebrity Smokey Robinson appeals to her on it. He does not want her moves like Tina Turner, he would prefer that they just stopped and sings. Undoubtedly sees avid womanizer Berry Gordy Brenda Holloway in more than a singing talent. "Either I sing or I'm your mistress but it's one or the other," she seems to have told him. While others favor his things to go higher but - a struggle which incidentally won brilliantly by Diana Ross - Holloway tries to keep her boss physically remote. Thereby taking a risk, but it would appear that they get away with it. Gordy presents her a golden future ahead. Brenda Holloway's glory days at Motown between 1964 and 1967. Only 21, she is like the success story ends prompt, after a series of modest hits. For they well and truly broken through Holloway puts himself one point behind. On the appearance of a single plate after gospel [[the total unnoticed Brand New, in 1980) then it will take more than twenty years before they enter again to the outside. Thanks to the northern soul scene in England who spent much of her Motown Songs now cherishes as polished silverware.



    Of all the singers at Motown did Brenda Holloway [[1946), probably the most personal style. Look how many inflections and colors inside them they eenletterig word "I" does not emit in Too Proud To Cry, how they Sad Song smoothly switches from total despair [["Why do not you, why do not you?) To retained resignation. As a universal fluid, a musical prism where even the seasoned listener not get a grip on. Her diction and articulation exactly are unprecedented, especially for the genre, her voice phonetic equivalent of a sultry summer night. Her singing style is largely the result of frequent listening to white singers like Morgana King and Teresa Brewer, she tells me from her home in Los Angeles.

    How did that music into gospel music you grew up with?
    "I did not grow up in the church. I went to church, but we have never been anywhere member. I was anxious, even a little afraid of God. Only in the late sixties, when I was away at Motown, I met one day on Sunset Strip Arthur Blessit, a preacher who was wearing a big heavy cross with which he traveled around the world and showed me the way to the Lord . You can say that I gave my heart to God on Sunset Strip, but when I was well into his twenties. Until that time I tried to stay just a little away from him. I did not really know what it would mean if I were Christian. My background is not churchy, I'm classically trained, played the violin and piano, listening to Morgana King, Teresa Brewer, Sarah Vaughan and Dinah Washington. Religion was not dominant at home. I was raised by my mother. My father was mentally ill and spent most of his time in hospitals and institutions by. My mother had a hard time, she had to raise her own three children. They have sent us to church, but she herself was seldom. She participated in a PTA, Parent-Teacher Association. They moreover believe it though. Her father was Hispanic and a priest. "

    What is striking is that in almost all the songs, even the up tempo songs, echoes something tragic. There's always a sadness in your voice.
    "Yes. I think it had to do with my father. His situation was hopeless, it was painful to see and I was not in a position to say: come on Dad, turn it off! His life was sad, and that of my mother as a single parent actually. That soil is not just my personality, but also shaped my style. "

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    You seem to have a sort of love-hate relationship with Every Little Bit Hurts, the song that you became known.
    [[laughs). "The problem with Every Little Bit Hurts is Barbara Wilson, wife of Motown producer Frank Wilson, had recorded a demo of that song. And Barbara Wilson, who died not long after, was a gospel singer who each number, anywhere, anytime, could sing. I did not because I sing her version was overwhelming. I could never surpass it. And to think that they wanted a deal with Motown, just like me. But my producer Hal Davis, determined to provide me with a great future at Motown, was very tenacious. "You're gonna do this young lady! I'm the manager, you're the singer, get behind THAT MIC "I started to cry, but Hal continued to say: it's your song, Barbara Wilson is not entitled to, you're going to sing. Finally I made the shot. Whatever it was made complicated that it was such a sad mature text. I was sixteen and fell in love with different guys. Confusing crushes piece by piece because I was more concerned with violin playing than with boys. I tried to ignore them all, but of course that did not work so I was always sad. What I mean to say is, I was able to identify with Every Little Bit Hurts. Or with such a number as Hurt A Little Everyday, written to me by Sylvia Moy. So I was, always sad. I do not know ... I just had a mature, sad voice. When I listen to those recordings now I hear there to sob again, that beautiful cracks in her voice that Patrice my sister and I tried to copy Teresa Brewer. The rest of the style, the inflections and so on, according to others it is to be traced back to the African origin of my ancestors. Those styles together, that's me. '

    There was the Motown Years still debate about whether soul was reserved for black musicians. If a white artist signed a contract that was sensitive news.
    "It was the era of the black civil rights movement, so that played plenty. There is no doubt that it was black music. Until songwriters like Smokey Robinson becoming "whiter" music started to write. The Four Tops, The Supremes, those were the acts that were really crossover, but it nevertheless remained black music. Because it comes from our souls, from our church, and our history and ancestors. I've never had any problems with the term black music. Certainly not now black music is everybody's music. "

    Were you in hindsight does such a logical match for Motown? You seemed not completely fit in with your classical training and style.
    [[laughs). "In any case there was a geographical distance of course. I was the first West Coast artist ever signed to Motown. If I were in Detroit, or at least near that city, had grown up than I could fit in just fine. It was a company full of young people who wanted to do it all. For the other young ladies I was with my talent a threat. They were all afraid that I would take their place, or worse, she was rushing. Although I have worked hard to get there, I was not trying to take someone else's place. My goal was to record records and score hits, as simple as that. "

    What does it mean when your peak time as a singer already at such a young age?
    "I had not the mind to think about what would happen in the long term. I walked out halfway through a recording session with Smokey Robinson and left at Motown. That's been one of the biggest mistakes I've made in my life. I was too eager, I wanted hits, be a star, and now. I had the patience to not simply wait for my time. I am convinced that it would have been if I had not run away. Mostly I take myself so blame the Motown story ended there. On the other hand, I took the blame Berry Gordy that he did not come after all his promises. There were so many incredible artists, he could not give all the attention they deserved, especially not because there was a group that he wanted to bring to the highest echelons. The Supremes. It was inevitable that there were people between the cracks. "

    Did you at that time, but wait, I'm going to make it somewhere else?
    "No. I was convinced of my talent, but I also knew that there Motown people walking around who could bring me to full maturity. The writers, the producers that matched the singer Brenda Holloway. So when I left Motown I was done with it. Actually, it took until the nineties before I picked up the thread somewhat, thanks to a multitude northern soul adepts, especially in England. That was awesome. I was never a really big star, no more than I had at the time star potential. The stardom came when I was older and was rediscovered by Europeans.

    It is hard to imagine that you were done with it, after Motown. You did not only as a singer but as a songwriter or producer to continue.
    "I had everything to do, indeed. But I did not. If I had been a little older, I had probably had more foresight. I had taken a deep breath and thought my time will come. Then I had thought of my more distant future, and realized that those songs would survive me so that my future children would benefit from the proceeds. If I had been less stubborn, I had become the star that Berry Gordy saw in me. I was so tired every time I arrived in Detroit again to find out that Gladys Knight or another singer the night before had already recorded the songs that were promised to me. Again and again that disappointment, I felt that there was messed with me. And I will not be trifled with me, so it was: the greetings! I think my impatience had something to do with my heritage. I come from Watts, at which time a ghetto. My mother was not as if we lived in a ghetto, she had a soft spot for people with handeltjes. When I first went to Motown hoisted me into a package that they came from a kledingboetiekje of one of her friends. Without paying a penny that I could choose what I wanted: a hat, boots, and so on. I came from a ghetto but looked like a star. Motown everyone thought that I had everything I wanted. In reality I had only connections, but no further penny. They lived in an apartment, I was in a house. Unlike the others I was classically trained, I loved genres that she barely knew and had my whole childhood long violinist want to be. I think I was a threat in that sense, because nobody knew - not myself - what mine would be. "

    "When I was away at Motown I was more interested in singing. From the rebound, I focused on family, I wanted to marry, start a family. And the church suddenly began to play a big role in my life. The problem is that we often have a delusional picture of what a Christian should be. Too often it means to lead a retired life, going to church, reading the Bible again. As if you can do nothing more than praise the Lord blah blah blah. A total misconception of course, as a God-given talent to use you. Instead, I buried it. The only thing I did was still backing vocals. Background Singing with my sister Patrice, sessions jan-and-everybody, stay up all night. I worked hard but everything that had to do with my own talent I denied. I listened sometimes to Brenda Holloway, her inflections, her moans and her diction, but I never gave myself the more credits. That only came back through the northern soul revival. When I first got the feeling that I had done something special. In the States you imagine anything more for you if not every six months got a hit. "

    You bury not only your talent, you buried Brenda Holloway.
    "Yes. I thought she was a bad girl. She was unable to have proved the star which they thought to be when she was seven or ten years old. I had not really big hits on bag so I felt unsuccessful in that sense. For someone who is not as strong in the shoes of the church is a safe refuge harbor. But the result was that I threw my talent in the dirt. I believed there really, you could not work on a career as a star as a good Christian. My self-confidence was nothing left. I was just as uncertain as ever. My mother told me that Patrice was beautiful, and I ugly. Later I understood it. Then she said, "Sorry, I do not mean it that way. You look very like your father, I was angry at him and I responded it out on you. " And you must also imagine that they already had me when she was still in high school. I was the oldest of three, and had to endure the sometimes because I was too much like my father. "

    Motown had meanwhile issued a press release stating that the door you left because you wanted to sing for God.
    "Nonsense, they forced me. It also makes no sense because the gospel world is pretty clannish. There really is not just between such backgrounds as I had. I had not the papers at all. In most cases, you are not totally accepted as you make the transition from R & B to gospel. Conversely either way. So I was feeling pretty in trouble. I've still been with the producer trio Holland-Dozier-Holland to work after Motown, but they could give me a hit. "

    Your departure had nothing to do with the lifestyle you were drawn in, as is sometimes suggested?
    "Not directly, although of course there was a lot going on. Many drug use, many excesses and hassles between people. I knew I did not want the lifestyle that led to a few years later that there were so many deaths, just think of Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin. Drug addiction was a real danger. But a life where nothing you could do, was not tempting. Yet that is exactly what I was driven away. And then helps a personality like mine does not. I cijferde myself away. "

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    Then there is the great unsolved mystery. In 1968 a single, I Can not Make It Without Him, called Brendetta Davis. Produced by Barry White. For years, is rumored that Brendetta Davis is the same as Brenda Holloway and the pseudonym served to circumvent the current contract with Motown. Is that right?
    "You know, it was so long ago ... I have so much background work done with Barry White at that time .. I do not think I was. I dare not say for sure because I even though the Motown time with him working on potential hits, also got far before he hit himself with his own sound. Barry was like a big brother to me. His judgment was so important to me that when I You Made Me So Very Happy had written first called Barry. I did not dare to propose to Motown without his approval. So I left a piece hear over the phone and he said in that deep voice of him: "I think you've got a hit. I'm coming over. "Then I sang it for Berry Gordy and Patrice, who helped me with the text. Only the bridge between the verses and the chorus we were not completely. The bridge was written by Frank Wilson, the man who wrote the song to me in terms text is most dear, I've Got To Find It. The easiest song to sing was When I'm Gone Smokey, the hardest my own You Made Me So Very Happy. I did it myself rather as sung as Blood, Sweat & Tears, which scored a hit, but Berry did it in a different style. Five million copies were sold, not of it. But to come back to your question, I did a lot of background vocals, for everyone here in Hollywood, and it was teeming with singers. When I hear the song I recognize the way I make my voice inflections at all. It could well be that the singer of I Can not Make It Without Him was someone else, one of Barry White's proteges. But for sure I do not. "

    The name Brendetta Davis then again makes it just acceptable. You Davis was called at the time.
    "I was married to a Davis indeed. Albert was a pastor and it was not a happy marriage. After eighteen years we divorced, but my four children named Davis. He is seriously ill now. "



    So while many of your colleagues in the mid-seventies disco records recording ...
    "I was sitting at home with the children, yes. I wish I was just going to sing and act so I broadened their horizons instead of snagging them so. They had much to learn to go with me on tour. Instead, I was a real mother hen, she had little freedom to me. I was an overprotective mother. I've never had anything of me except my children. As a child I had no pets, no dolls, no, I think I compensated for that by devoting my whole life to my children and glorify them. As a result, I had high expectations of them, which of course sometimes not but could lead to disappointment. Eventually they all ended well though. "

    I understood that your children there had no idea that their mother was once so famous.
    'Still not! But they would also not know. "Do not tell us you were a star, you're just Brenda Davis, our mother!". One of my daughters - she lives now over here with me because she is looking for an apartment - only believed I really was a successful singer when she saw a program of the Hal Awards. All those performances, overseas tours, and my daughter just accepted that I was a star when I got a Hall Award. A month ago, she saw my face somewhere in a book. "Wow, Mom, you're such a star," she said. "

    And how do you react now?
    "I give them right now. And say there that there are people who respect my talent and skill. I feel there are good at and have there fun to sing. "

    Have you ever fantasized about what music you had included in the seventies and eighties when your career was not snapped prematurely?
    "It depends of course on what authors I was going to work, but the most likely is that I had continued to work with many Smokey Robinson. He was my favorite songwriter at the time, and I know they saw in me a successor to Mary Wells. I was also received by Motown with a number of her, When I'm Gone, I sounded a bit like her. So it would either have been in line with that style, with smokey on my side, or gospel, if I would have been able to penetrate into that circuit. But in the gospel circuit they were not really waiting for someone who came to Motown. "

    Yet there are plenty of examples of soul singers who made the switch to gospel, like Candi Staton.
    "Yeah, but they really focused on the songs of the pastor. I know Candi, she has really given over to the church. She is very religious, very sweet, a great example of what Christianity can be, but I do not think I could be so. They never need doing her best to be, it is in her nature. That does not apply to me. I would be incredible to do my best to be so. She is in love with God. I, too, but not that way, you know. I prefer to translate it into helping other people. "

    Did you have contact with other Motown artists?
    "A few times I sing with them, most recently during an evening with The Velvelettes and The Contours. The most often I work with Kim Weston. Often the projects producer David Gest or performances and festival under the northern soul flag. A few weeks ago I performed together with the now 85-year-old Mable John in New Orleans. Apart from the performances, I see many former Motown colleagues annually during the party around the Hall awards that Berry Gordy and Janie Bradford organize annually. Next Friday I actually go to Thelma Houston here at the Catalina Club in LA with my boyfriend and some friends, including Freda Payne. "

    I understood that you are also in the choir sits Blinky Williams, another Motown celebrity.
    "Blinky is one of my lifelong friends. Hal Davis was my boyfriend, and Hal Davis was Blinky's boyfriend. "

    At the same time?
    [[laughs). 'I hope not. You never know with men, you know. He would not tell me, haha. No, they came after me. But Blinky and I have much more in common, they also have a Motown history that is not only festive. Her Hollywood Choir unfortunately no longer exists. Coincidentally, yesterday I had to think of her when I drove past the church of her brother. I really need to once again call her. If we have spoken later I call Blinky! "

    What kind of life you lead now?
    "A quiet life, I remember. I sing when I want, I get paid pretty, I see my daughter a lot, especially now that two looking for another house. I can say without any hesitation that this is the happiest time of my life. And I'm addicted to a daily dose of Forensic Files on TV. I like to crawl into the heads. What drives people to go on the path of crime, or to murder someone? And how to solve such a thing, how about the dna evidence? That interests me excessive. Furthermore, I sing gospel, I go to church or out for dinner. And I have a great husband, the love of my life with whom I am reunited after forty years. He is now my manager. I am also working on some new songs, along with the brother of Lamont Dozier. It is a record that I produce myself and that I am supported by my daughters. If you think I can sing, you have my daughter Anysha hear! She is a cross between Aretha Franklin and Brenda Holloway Anita Baker. One of the songs is called The Other Woman. Even my grandchildren cooperate. If I could write a script to map out how my life should look like, it looked just might like it is today. You know, I'd also like to play the violin again. My grandchildren have made the previous broken so I will have to buy a new one. Yes, I am determined. "

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    The only time we hear you play the violin during a live recording of Summertime, in 1966.
    Pleased: "Yes, that's right! Summertime was one of my father's favorite songs. I heard the shot, not so long ago when I was packing for a trip to London. And you know what I thought when I heard back? I thought woho, that sounds not bad, Brenda Holloway

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    From Google translate

    If it hasnt come out 100% right...I'm sorry. It took me ages to copy it all...but as a computer illiterate, I'm quite pleased with myself
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    And, Tbfxt, you did a great job of posting the translation of this lengthy piece. Many thanks--much appreciated. Very interesting reading.

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    This Brendetta Davis song keeps coming up......I asked Brenda myself when she was in London with the Velvelettes...she confirmed that it was NOT her doing the lead vocal.

    Brendetta has a similar style to Brenda on this recording but you can tell it's not Brenda. The flip side of the 45 sounds nothing like Brenda


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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah2 View Post
    And, Tbfxt, you did a great job of posting the translation of this lengthy piece. Many thanks--much appreciated. Very interesting reading.
    You're a quick reader...I'm still going through it. Bit hard going, I have to say!! LOL

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    It goes faster if you read it in Dutch! [[Not that that's what I did, mind you.)

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    Thanks for posting. Always great to read about Brenda Holloway

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    WOW, tbfxt!!! Brendetta Davis -- "I Can't Make It Without Him" -- What a perfect record from start to finish! How these masterpieces managed to slip through the cracks without ever being heard is beyond me. This deserved to be a huge hit! Thanks for making us aware.

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    Nice translation from Dutch, theboyfromxtown!!! Nice article on Brenda in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightman View Post
    Nice translation from Dutch, theboyfromxtown!!! Nice article on Brenda in general.
    Midnightman...I didn't translate it....google did it....blame them for it not making sense in places.

    lol

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    I just meant for posting it. But yeah Google's translation of Dutch is terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightman View Post
    I just meant for posting it. But yeah Google's translation of Dutch is terrible.
    To be fair..google does a MUCH better job than I could do

    lolol

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightman View Post
    I just meant for posting it. But yeah Google's translation of Dutch is terrible.
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    Google Translate's translation of ANY given language is terrible [[despite that program being better than many of the online or computer translation programmes. It translates word-for-word, leaves the translated world in the original language's
    word order [[almost always wrong), cannot translate almost all [[if not all) idiomatic phrases, only translates using the most-frequently-used word definition, cannot use context to decide what the writer is trying to say [[and so, cannot find the proper definition or use of the word.

    Can someone please send me to the original Dutch version?

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    Robb_k

    See post # 1

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    Thanks! Sorry. There's an old Jordanian saying [[translated from the Classical Arabic [[NOT by Google Translate) - for the convenience of the reader), "If it were a snake, it would have bit me!" I skipped clinking on the link, as I saw the article printed in the posts below [[not guessing that it was a translation until I was in the middle of its text of terrible English. By THAT time, I had forgotten that I had even seen the link above. So is the almost non-existent short-term memory of the 70 year-old!

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    Ha!Ha! I WONDERED why I never knew that Brenda had Gypsy blood, and how that fact had escaped me all these years! Now we see that Google Translate is so terrible! The English "translation" reads that Brenda was a Gypsy girl and during her childhood she played violin. But "als" in Dutch language can mean "as" in English, or "like". In this context, it meant "like". She only played violin LIKE [[comparison to) a Gypsy. So, now you see an example of why much of the translation above made no sense, and why using a programmed translator is only a desperation method to get the gist of the general idea of a recount of something, only if there is absolutely no other source of getting that information.
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    I think most of us only got the general gist of the article. I know I certainly did.

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    "If it were a snake, it would have bit me!"

    Smokey must have met that arab too. He uses that phrase in one of my favourite recordings of his!

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    [QUOTE=fatmaninthethirdrow;308186]
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    "If it were a snake, it would have bit me!"

    Smokey must have met that arab too. He uses that phrase in one of my favourite recordings of his!
    Which one was that Fatman?

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    Once I got to know you [[couldn't help but love you)

    x

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatmaninthethirdrow View Post
    Once I got to know you [[couldn't help but love you)

    x
    And for anyone else that wants to know...... Fatmaninthethirdrow,,is a working title for Here Comes Fat Albert Shorty Long

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