DRATS: Reflections

[longtimefan]

"If" I were to assemble MY OWN expanded edition of the "Reflections" LP, what other tracks -- previously unreleased that we now have on various compilations -- could be included, i.e., studio tracks that were recorded in the same time period. Any other relevant tracks, e.g., live cabaret performances, TV shows, interviews, etc?

Note: This is not written to start a campaign for REFLECTIONS: EXPANDED EDITION! If I were to start a campaign, it would be for SUPREMES A GO GO [[smile)!!!!

[TYK1986]

The supremes live at the roostertail in 1967. Two songs of that show were released on the 2000box set. Does anybody else ever heared any other songs of that show?

Heaven must have sent you, All i know about you, am I asking too much. How about the Happening? Would you put that in sing HDH or Reflections?

[JohnnyB]

Also:
Stay In My Lonely Arms
Treat Me Nice John Henry
The Beginning of the End of Love
Going All The Way To True Love
Sweet Thing

[supremester]

I'd love a finished Don't let True love Die [[it seems unfinished and the horrid bg has to be some sort of demo or just sounds to change later - I think there's a hot track buried in there.)

Extended or alt vocals on Bah Bah Bah - my fave on the album.

Anything that sweetheart JBFJr loves


Oh and a gussied up heaven Must Have Sent You

[longtimefan]

Here is what I have come up with for between 1/67 and 3/68. I am not certain, but maybe the cut off date should be 1/68 when "Bah Bah Bah" and "Forever Came Today"[["Reflections" LP) were recorded. The others in 2/68 and 3/68 [[below) may have been considered for the "Love Child" LP sessions. Also, note that I have included neither the Disney tracks nor "The Happening."

All I Know About You 2/67
It's Going All the Way To True Love 5/67
Heaven Must Have Sent You 10/67
Stay in My Lonely Arms 11/67
Everytime I feel the Spirit 12/67
Treat Me Nice John Henry 12/67
A Little Breeze 2/68
The Beginning of the End of Love 3/68
Sweet Thing 3/68
Am I Asking Too Much 3/68

Also, live recording currently available on CD from this period include:
1. "Reflections" [[Roostertail): An Evening With the Supremes
2. "Medley: The Lady Is a Tramp /Let's Get Away From It All " [[Copacabana): The Supremes Sing Rogers and Hart - The Complete Sessions
3. "Somewhere," "Introductions," and "You're Nobody Till Somebody Loves You" [[Copacabana): The Supremes - Box Set 2002

[johnny_raven]

I think that "Everytime I Feel The Spirit" would have been recorded for the In Loving Memory album.

[longtimefan]

By the way, has there ever been an alternate version of "Reflections" [[the song, not the album) released? Also, are there any differences between the stereo and mono versions? Thanks!

[antceleb12]

By the way, has there ever been an alternate version of "Reflections" [[the song, not the album) released? Also, are there any differences between the stereo and mono versions? Thanks!

There are a few different versions. There's an alternate version with Florence and Mary singing a line after Diana sings "All in vain" in the bridge of the song that's omitted in the released version. This alternate version also has a full, non-fade ending, which is cut and faded in the released version. This alternate version is included on their "No. 1's" album.

[rovereab]

I have always felt that Forever Came Today would have benefited from having a more driving drum/tambourine track as heard on Reflections. Somehow FCT sounded too "thin" and needing the extra oooomph!

[longtimefan]

On what compilation is the "best" version of "In and Out of Love?"

[daviddh]

i like the version of IN AND OUT OF LOVE from Talk of The Town, also I would have added the Happening and Beginning Of The End Of Love, Let The Music Play.
I did hear an alt version of FOREVER CAME TODAY ,from a japanese hits lp that I thought was better

[captainjames]

The Supremes were truly blessed to get "Reflections". It was one of HDH best. I have never like "In and Out Of Love" and how "Stay" got scraped is beyond me .

[sup_fan]

there's not a ton of material from this time. at least that i've identified. certainly there could be tracks and material not noted yet. here's what i have that was record

1967
March
3/2/67 Reflections
3/2/67 The Happening
3/8/67 All I Know About You

April
4/20/67 In and Out Of Love
4/21/67 Forever Came Today


May
5/19/67 unreleased Copa lp recorded
5/20/67 unreleased Copa lp recorded
It's Going All The Way [[To True True Love)

August
8/27/67 recorded unreleased live lp at Detroit Roostertail

September
Someday My Prince Will Come
Heigh Ho


October
10/6/67 Heaven Must Have Sent You
10/6/67 Stay In My Lonely Arms
10/11/67 Then
10/14/67 Up Up And Away
10/14/67 Ode To Billie Joe


December
12/13/66 What A Friend We Have In Jesus background vocals
12/13/66 Every Time I Feel The Spirit background vocals
12/18/67 I'm Gonna Make It
12/18/67 Treat Me Nice John Henry
12/19/66 What A Friend We Have In Jesus lead vocals
12/19/66 Every Time I Feel The Spirit lead vocals

1968
February
2/10/68 Am I Asking Too Much
2/17/68 I Can't Shake It Loose
2/17/68 You'll Never Cherish A Love So True
2/24/68 Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You
2/29/68 A Little Breeze

March
Sweet Thing
3/7/68 When It's To The Top
3/9/68 Honey Bee
3/9/68 The Beginning Of The End
3/14/68 If You Should Walk Away
3/15/68 Believe In Me
3/18/68 The Nitty Gritty
3/19/68 Believe In Me lead vocal
3/20/68 Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
3/20/68 The Beginning Of The End Of Love lead vocal
3/26/68 Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You background vocals [[with the Temptations)
3/26/68 The Beginning Of The End Of Love background vocal

April
4/4/68 Will This Be the Day
4/12/68 You've Been So Wonderful To Me
4/15/68 Some Things You Never Get Used To
4/29/68 Hey Hey
4/29/68 Honey Babe
4/30/68 He's My Sunny Boy

May
5/8/68 A House Is Not A Home [[with the Temptations)
5/11/68 Ain't No Mountain High Enough lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
5/21/68 recorded 2 unreleased sides
5/21/68 rerecorded Honey Bee
5/31/68 Don't Break These Chains Of Love

June
6/19/68 Sweet Inspiration lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
6/19/68 Got To Get You Into My Life [[with the Temptations)
6/19/68 If You Should Walk Away
June 22 and 23 Sing and Perform Funny Girl lp sessions lead vocals

July
7/10/68 Sing and Perform Funny Girl lp sessions background vocals
7/28/68 How Long Has That Evening Train Been Gone
7/29/68 Sweet Inspiration additional lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
7/29/68 You Gave Me Something [[And Everything's Alright) [[with the Temptations)
7/30/68 Over The Rainbow lead vocals
7/30/68 Then background vocals [[with the Temptations)
7/30/68 Wish I Knew lead vocals
7/30/68 MacArthur Park lead vocals
7/30/68 I Second That Emotion background vocals [[with the Temptations)
7/30/68 My Guy, My Girl background vocals [[with the Temptations)
7/31/68 Ain't No Mountain High Enough background vocals [[with the Temptations)
7/31/68 I Can't Give Back The Love I Feel For You

August
8/1/68 MacArthur Park lead vocals
8/1/68 You Ain't Livin' Until You're Lovin'
8/1/68 Then lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/1/68 My Guy, My Girl lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/1/68 I Second That Emotion lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/2/68 Ain't No Sun Since You've Been Gone lead vocals
8/5/68 rerecorded I'll Set You Free
8/9/68 Those Precious Memories
8/16/68 In The Evening Of Our Love background vocals
8/19/68 I'm So Glad I Got Somebody [[Like You Around)
8/23/68 TCB sessions [[with the Temptations)
8/26/68 I'm Gonna Make You Love Me lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/26/68 Funky Broadway lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/26/68 This Guy's In Love With You lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/26/68 I'll Try Something New lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/26/68 The Impossible Dream lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/27/68 The Impossible Dream background vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/27/68 This Guy's In Love With You background vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/27/68 Try It Baby background vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/27/68 Funky Broadway background vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/27/68 You Can't Hurry Love/You Keep Me Hangin' On Medley [[with the Temptations)
8/28/68 The Impossible Dream additional background vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/29/68 I'll Try Something New additional vocals [[with the Temptations)
8/29/68 Sweet Inspiration background vocals [[with the Temptations)
unknown recording dates A Place In The Sun [[with the Temptations)
Amen


September
9/2/68 I'll Set You Free lead vocals
9/4/68 Try It Baby lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
9/4/68 I'm Gonna Make You Love Me background vocals [[with the Temptations)
9/4/68 Funky Broadway additional lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
9/5/68 I'll Set You Free additional lead vocals
9/7/68 In The Evening Of Our Love lead vocals
9/8/68 Try It Baby additional lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
9/8/68 This Guy's In Love With You additional lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
9/13/68 I'm Gonna Make You Love Me additional lead vocals [[with the Temptations)
9/16/68 Supremes Medley With Temptations
9/16/68 Funky Broadway additional background vocals [[with the Temptations)
9/17/68 Love Child
9/17/68 Those Precious Memories lead vocals
9/20/68 Love Child additional lead vocals


October
10/2/68 Does Your Mama Know About Me
10/4/68 Those Precious Memories lead vocals
10/8/68 Shadows of Society
10/16/68 rerecorded I'm So Glad I Got Somebody [[Like You Around)

November
11/5/68 It's Unbelieveable

December
12/3/68 rerecorded I'll Set You Free
12/5/68 The Young Folks
12/6/68 rerecorded I'm So Glad I Got Somebody [[Like You Around)
12/20/68 I'm Livin' In Shame version 1 background vocals
12/21/68 I'm Livin' In Shame version 1 lead vocals
12/26/68 I'm Livin' In Shame version 2
12/28/68 Are You Sure Love Is The Name Of This Game
12/28/68 The Composer
12/30/68 I'm Livin' In Shame additional lead and background vocals


looks like a lot of the material in 68 was with the Temps. quite a few of the other tracks - What a friend, sweet thing, john henry, etc have at least been released already. of course they could stand remastering and there might be alt versions. given the personnel changes in the group, looks like summer of 67 was pretty void of recording sessions. they seem to start back up in fall with DMC. a lot of the content in spring 68 ended up on Love Child or planned for the cancelled Something lp. i think A Go Go has the most unused tracks and many of those too have been released.

this doesn't include live material but i don't know that much of that would focus on the "reflections" period. i think a Go Go and HDH have more unique content still out there. Reflections doesn't. Love Child does

[longtimefan]

Supfan,
Wow, what an AMAZING list you have compiled. I am enjoying it! Thanks so much!!
p.s. I never knew they recorded "You'll Never Cherish a Love So True!"

[sup_fan]

well i've just taken the various booklets that have accompanied the expanded editions plus Mary's book. i know mary's book is subject to some errors but it's all we have. so i've entered those in for each year

i have for most of the years if you want me to post more lol