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    mary really is stunning as she walks, no STRUTS...

    mary really is stunning as she walks, no STRUTS out on the stage. and i know i've bitched about her changing things up. i do agree with the decision for each woman to enter by herself. even if...
  2. i think they were safe with that since M and C...

    i think they were safe with that since M and C weren't on most of the recordings anyway. But if there had been a super hot track with DMC, i don't think Berry would have blinked an eye about...
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    what's the "Stever Hoffman" forum?

    what's the "Stever Hoffman" forum?
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    my guess is the producers were looking at what...

    my guess is the producers were looking at what would be of interest to the broader group of viewers. they wanted big ratings which would hopefully lead to big record sales. and not just of their...
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    from what i've heard it was more of a financial...

    from what i've heard it was more of a financial issue. Cindy was not very well off and didn't have the resources for a high-end glamorous gown. I doubt very much in her personal life she had a...
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    it certainly couldn't have been for the entire...

    it certainly couldn't have been for the entire cast for the finale since others were in various outfits. i think most just stayed in the outfits they performed in. so the Jacksons were in all their...
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    i agree - Scherrie was an extremely talented and...

    i agree - Scherrie was an extremely talented and versatile singer. IMO she also really understood melody and lyric and the importance of conveying that live. like diana. and unlike jean. IMO Jean...
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    you're absolutely right that M and C were really...

    you're absolutely right that M and C were really about the perfect pairing of backing vocalists ever within the group. somehow, someway, their voices were just perfectly matched and blended. they...
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    agreed - had Mary joined up with Scherrie and...

    agreed - had Mary joined up with Scherrie and Lynda, it would have made an excellent situation. their schedules wouldn't have been so full that they wouldn't be able to do some solo things on the...
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    it's definitely a more experimental album than...

    it's definitely a more experimental album than HE. Sweet Dream Machine, Come Into My Life, We Should Be Closer and Don't Wanna Be Tied Down are all amazing tunes that really push the group. SDM is...
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    there are a few times they did some of their...

    there are a few times they did some of their other material

    time changes things and standing at the crossroads were in their early show up through WDOLG. And so they actually ended up doing many...
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    possibly a few reasons. the album was released...

    possibly a few reasons. the album was released in mid to late Oct 76. in early Dec 76 they had their terrible run at Caesar's Palace, where Mary announced she was leaving the group. at that point...
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    Scherrie's voice had a playful quality to it. I...

    Scherrie's voice had a playful quality to it. I never got that from Jean. so songs like He's My Man, Walking, Can't stop a girl, wouldn't have fit Jean

    i do think Jean would have been wildly...
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    yes i believe both were new tunes. A heart...

    yes i believe both were new tunes.

    A heart like mine was dusted off too.
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    great question and i don't know IMO the...

    great question

    and i don't know

    IMO the material on MS&S was specifically crafte for that lineup. after the success of Walking, the Hollands developed Wheel, LYG and other tunes. and given...
  16. from a strategic standpoint, jean was never...

    from a strategic standpoint, jean was never considered a "solo artist" at motown. of course lots of times she recorded songs without M or C. but that's no different than what the label was doing...
  17. i think your point about "intended" is worth...

    i think your point about "intended" is worth discussing. as i see it, other than when the girls set about recording the R&H material or Sam Cooke or Xmas, there was no "intent" with ANY of their...
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    true but that's sort of the point. it was...

    true but that's sort of the point. it was motown's standard for live shows in the 60s to include 4 or 5 hits and then MOR material, showtunes, other top songs, etc. But by the 70s that strategy was...
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    Time To Break is such a studio masterpiece that...

    Time To Break is such a studio masterpiece that it was always going to be a struggle to replicate it live. but maybe it would have worked well at the midpoint of the show as the girls could have let...
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    oh no - i wasn't implying we shouldn't discuss...

    oh no - i wasn't implying we shouldn't discuss this. or that this is an irrelevant point. just trying to be cute in my intro :)
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    y'all seemed to have taken motown's press release...

    y'all seemed to have taken motown's press release of "flo has retired from The Supremes due to the group's hectic schedule" at face value lol.

    what seems to have actually happened was a completed...
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    couldn't agree more. or how about the Flip...

    couldn't agree more. or how about the Flip Wilson episode where they did the medley of SL and Time To Break. I don't really think the two songs worked well in a medley format. frankly they should...
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    Randy and others have written about how frankly...

    Randy and others have written about how frankly the girls were more supportive of and friendly with one another AFTER the split in 1970. during the DRATS years, they were all under so much pressure...
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    very interesting. i knew of the money story but...

    very interesting. i knew of the money story but hadn't put it into the timeline of what the girls were doing. i think you're right - when motown realized the girls weren't blindly devoted to the...
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    for the most part, yes. few, if any, of the PK...

    for the most part, yes. few, if any, of the PK songs would have been ready to release on the Touch lp had Frank looked for a different tune to replace T&L
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