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  1. Moving on, if I understand your comment about the...

    Moving on, if I understand your comment about the US dollar based figures I have already addressed that by explaining about the RIAA choosing to use list prices when calculating the industry’s...
  2. A fantastic contribution earlier Roger, and I’m...

    A fantastic contribution earlier Roger, and I’m glad you have found it interesting enough to delve deeper into the topic of record sales generally, even if we are straying far away from those of...
  3. Well that doesn't seemed to have excited too...

    Well that doesn't seemed to have excited too many. No wonder. I guess the 'may be released' will become the epitaph there.
  4. Right, fed and watered and on to the Diana Ross...

    Right, fed and watered and on to the Diana Ross figures from JRT. Again they appear to be gross in the most part, and I see you have a feeling that is the case when you comment they could be...
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    Lol Hotspurman, great anecdote about RCA. It's...

    Lol Hotspurman, great anecdote about RCA. It's funny because they made a lot of noise about 'Shame' on 12" in the States and maybe someone got into bother about not beating you guys to it in the UK?...
  6. Ok Florence, let’s chew over these figures from...

    Ok Florence, let’s chew over these figures from the JRT book that you’ve kindly sourced for us. As I said yesterday, my first impressions are entirely favorable on the whole but, as they say, it all...
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    Lol Hotspurman, good to hear that pedanticism (?)...

    Lol Hotspurman, good to hear that pedanticism [[?) and precision is still highly valued and I'm in your club then guys!

    Like I say the problem is three-fold really;

    1) the swap over period might...
  8. Thanks for the JRT stats Florence. Really...

    Thanks for the JRT stats Florence. Really interesting and I think I can give a full and longwinded [[boring) analysis of what they are and how realistic they are over the next couple of days. My first...
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    Well I suppose it is for others to wonder why I...

    Well I suppose it is for others to wonder why I assume any of the things under discussion is wrong – including what is written in the Virgin books – and whether or not I have answered in a capacity...
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    Hotspurman - I’m assuming you are referring to...

    Hotspurman - I’m assuming you are referring to the Simon Park Orch. single ‘Eye Level’ and the fact Columbia didn’t apply for a Disc silver ‘disc’ with your ‘I don’t think so’ comment? If so, I’m...
  11. Darn, I spent a fair bit of time last night...

    Darn, I spent a fair bit of time last night posting a reply for you Florence on this and when it came to post it logged me out…grrr. It was not bad either, if I say so myself, but now is lost to the...
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    Elsewhere I mentioned that I recalled you...

    Elsewhere I mentioned that I recalled you suggesting the sales for the Four Tops hit 'Reach Out...' were 'confirmed'. I suppose that does go back to the Virgin Book you're quoting on that thread then...
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    Very good Hotspurman. So we got there in the end...

    Very good Hotspurman. So we got there in the end and as you say the 'missing' one I was alluding to was 'I'll Be There' which was notified in Disc 13th February 1971. You also have the 1973 award for...
  14. As I said Roger, there will be the odd 'exception...

    As I said Roger, there will be the odd 'exception that proves the rule'! You have found one, and there are others, yet as with my other comments concerning the occasional big variations between the...
  15. There is no doubt that it is widely believed Cash...

    There is no doubt that it is widely believed Cash Box [[and possibly Record World/Music Vendor) did not include airplay in their respective charts, while equally those that bother with such things are...
  16. Hi jobeterob - cue me I think! The bestselling...

    Hi jobeterob - cue me I think!

    The bestselling [[at least in terms of RIAA awards) is the 1970 version of 'Elvis' Christmas Album' which was a budget release. It did fine at the time but then in...
  17. Well to be honest with you Florence I just don’t...

    Well to be honest with you Florence I just don’t know for sure, which was kinda why I was asking the question of you! I guess it is necessary to track down someone who was active in the Cash Box and...
  18. Continuing on Roger: So back to the Beatles,...

    Continuing on Roger:

    So back to the Beatles, who, as you say, makes it so hard to reconcile the sales of the day. I suppose they should be slung out of the record selling books as they were a...
  19. Yes, interesting indeed Roger although maybe not...

    Yes, interesting indeed Roger although maybe not everyone’s cup of tea as we’re still only scratching the surface on all this sales and chart stuff. I’ll now attempt to send all but those with the...
  20. Indeed that is true Florence, but as I keep...

    Indeed that is true Florence, but as I keep pointing out, if the charts had any value [[and the whole industry used and followed them, so you kinda have to accept they were of some use!) then they do...
  21. Interceding a bit here, but I think Roger was...

    Interceding a bit here, but I think Roger was aware that you were talking about the UK sales of 'Stoned Love', at least that was my understanding from where he went with his original post. Anyway,...
  22. Ha guys, equally stimulating responses! I am...

    Ha guys, equally stimulating responses! I am impressed with the interest and understanding shown and maybe it is time we started a specific thread devoted to all these chart and sales topics that are...
  23. Well motony, you are quite right, that singles...

    Well motony, you are quite right, that singles sales hadn't declined below album & tape sales until 1968. I confirmed this particular statistical breakthrough in another post the other day was in the...
  24. It is interesting how easy it is for people to...

    It is interesting how easy it is for people to fall into the population ratios and proportionality traps when attempting to estimate sales around the world. I was that man once too, so I can...
  25. Please do bother Florence! Any and all figures ...

    Please do bother Florence! Any and all figures should be given an airing, they are very often suspect and come with an 'agenda', but not always and in that regard I feel JRT's numbers can be ...
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