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    All the girls were rough around the ages during...

    All the girls were rough around the ages during that early period and there were definitely songs they shined on and songs they didn't. To me "I Want A Guy" isn't a bad vocal, but it's so damn nasal...
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    The reason why Diana became a Primette was...

    The reason why Diana became a Primette was because Paul Williams heard her sing and thought she was good. Milton Jenkins heard her and came to the same conclusion. Diana's voice, along with...
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    My problem isn't really her stage show. As an...

    My problem isn't really her stage show. As an artist, especially one of her status, she's free to focus on any aspect of her career that she wants to, although I would say it sucks for the fans who...
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    Allow- give the necessary time or opportunity for...

    Allow- give the necessary time or opportunity for

    Mary does not get time for Mary Wilson solo star because her post Supremes career, musically speaking, has resulted in zero successes. Mary gets...
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    Historically? Not really. They racked up ten...

    Historically? Not really. They racked up ten number ones up until mid 1967. Had the group broken up when Flo was fired, the Supremes would still be THE SUPREMES as we know them, today. For the...
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    On this we can agree. However, there's no excuse...

    On this we can agree. However, there's no excuse for mediocre music. Even those artists I named before, that were extending their "shelf life" when Diana had expired, mostly did so through albums...
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    Challenging? Perhaps. Impossible? I don't think...

    Challenging? Perhaps. Impossible? I don't think so. I looked over the Hot 100 number ones for 1991 and I think if Diana had done something worthy, she could've fit in. There's a nice variety of cuts...
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    The 80s really saw a plethora of hit songs with a...

    The 80s really saw a plethora of hit songs with a throwback feel. Think Wham's "Wake Me Up", Katrina and the Sunshines "Walking On Sunshine", Phil Collins' "Two Hearts", New Edition's "Mr. Telephone...
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    A legend of Diana's caliber could never be held...

    A legend of Diana's caliber could never be held to the same standards as most of the rest. After what she did from 1964 (along with Flo, Mary, and later Cindy) thru about 1984/85, she cannot be...
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    Has anyone else noticed how lazy Diana's vocal is...

    Has anyone else noticed how lazy Diana's vocal is for both "17" and the first version of "You're Gonna Come To Me"? At a couple points she mumbles in both songs. Usually she's always been so good at...
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    Diana Ross was an artist. I don't believe for one...

    Diana Ross was an artist. I don't believe for one moment that she approached her career as just a job. Nobody remembers every single detail of their life and I don't think anyone expects Diana to be...
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    I like to think that most of us are over the...

    I like to think that most of us are over the controversies. It has marred the Supremes legacy and, IMO, one of, if not the biggest, contributing factors to why the group doesn't get the credit it...
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    Tina and Patti reinvented themselves and had uber...

    Tina and Patti reinvented themselves and had uber successful careers post 40. Tina released an album in 1999 that went gold...and she was 60 freakin years old. Patti was gold through the 90s. Aretha...
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    I'm not the target of your question, but I'm...

    I'm not the target of your question, but I'm gonna answer anyway: Almost None. As I said before, I'm a bit surprised that "Chain Reaction" in the US didn't mirror the success of the song from around...
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    Exactly. Why she didn't understand this is...

    Exactly. Why she didn't understand this is anyone's guess. For someone so competitive, she was beating herself instead of looking to beat the competition. I don't get it.
  16. Horrible decision that would have been. Everybody...

    Horrible decision that would have been. Everybody and their mama had the "Baby Love" 45 with "Ask" as the B side, and if they didn't, they had the WDOLG album with "Ask" on it. Had this song come...
  17. Absolutely. Honestly, I think that's the last...

    Absolutely. Honestly, I think that's the last single where the track is on fire in a funky way. "No Matter What Sign You Are" comes close later on but doesn't quite get there. I wonder how much...
  18. Interesting to ponder how well the song may have...

    Interesting to ponder how well the song may have done had it been released sometime in 1965. But I definitely disagree that it wasn't "special enough" when it was released. I hardly think anyone in...
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    Number one equals number one money. And for the...

    Number one equals number one money. And for the Supremes to release 14 singles from "Where" to "Reflections", and have ten of those become #1 hits, that's an achievement you don't back down from...
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    If you listen to the version of "Come To Me"...

    If you listen to the version of "Come To Me" recorded during the session, the girls harmonies are probably the tightest it had ever been previously with Barbara. Of course "Star" and "Heavenly" will...
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    Maybe one of the Teen Queens. It doesn't sound...

    Maybe one of the Teen Queens. It doesn't sound like there's a bunch of voices in the background. My money is on Raynoma joining them, though.

    I'm so over Diana's inattentiveness to just about...
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    I'm rather surprised "The Happening" hit #1. To...

    I'm rather surprised "The Happening" hit #1. To my ears, all of the previous #1s sound like #1s to me. And even the three that didn't make it to #1- "Heartaches", "World", "Itchin"- would not have...
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    Age wasn't an issue at the time of Swept Away...

    Age wasn't an issue at the time of Swept Away because Diana had maintained relevancy every year since 1964. I don't think anyone is suggesting that the industry, or more importantly the US public,...
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    We agree about the sound. As I pointed out, I...

    We agree about the sound. As I pointed out, I made that observation months (or years?) ago in this forum. My point now is that Raynoma as producer may have made all the difference. She also, as Reese...
  25. Tim Hauser, one of my favorite voices.

    Tim Hauser, one of my favorite voices.
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