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    So there wasn’t really anything that could save...

    So there wasn’t really anything that could save the Supremes.

    It’s no wonder it took until 1975 to get the group active again.
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    I’m not an expert and have not researched this...

    I’m not an expert and have not researched this again.

    But they formerly used a reverse system where #100 got one point and #1 gets 100 points plus I believe #1 got a 100 point bonus

    Also for...
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    https://vocal.media/beat/20-most-popular-female-mu...

    https://vocal.media/beat/20-most-popular-female-musicians-of-the-1970s

    Here’s a fun list
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    Diana was Billboards #1 Female Vocalist of the...

    Diana was Billboards #1 Female Vocalist of the year in their year end tabulations for 1970.

    I’ll have to go looking but I also thought she was Cashbox’s #1 Female Vocalist of the year as well
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    No I don’t think so; it’s a channel on Sirius -...

    No I don’t think so; it’s a channel on Sirius - they have hundreds of channels covering music and sports and many other categories

    I think Smokey is completely fine at his channel - I too don’t...
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    I actually don’t mind the stories of the other...

    I actually don’t mind the stories of the other deejays; but I do agree, Smokey doesn’t go in anywhere near as much with his stories.
    That makes me wonder why he had to start talking about his...
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    I thought Smokey would only be around for a...

    I thought Smokey would only be around for a while.

    I listen every day when I’m driving - I think it’s pretty good - not much different than Soul Town
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    And the biggest of all, the Lady Soundtrack

    And the biggest of all, the Lady Soundtrack
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    Also the 70’s were the era of the singer...

    Also the 70’s were the era of the singer songwriter so the groups lost ground
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    We are all just like Mary in 1970 - “Good luck...

    We are all just like Mary in 1970 - “Good luck Diana”

    And we are “Good luck Andrew! We mean Andy”
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    Yes they did not badly - better than the Miracles...

    Yes they did not badly - better than the Miracles without Smokey - I think. Better than the Pips without Gladys.

    As someone said, they veered into uncharted territory with Touch, Jimmy Webb and...
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    Um, is it permissible to say - I think she did,...

    Um, is it permissible to say - I think she did, at least the whacking off part

    She just didn’t take the final step to chop it right off
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    That site is about as good as it gets It...

    That site is about as good as it gets

    It definitely puts Ross and the Supremes and their influence in perspective
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    https://chartmasters.org/the-supremes-albums-and-s...

    https://chartmasters.org/the-supremes-albums-and-songs-sales/#:~:text=All%20of%20them%20were%20released,stunning%2034%20million%20US%20sales.

    Here’s a chart masters page on Supremes singles sale -...
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    Mary Wilson 1971

    4.11.2024 #SUPREMES "Throughout the summer [of 1971] we kept up our frenzied pace, crisscrossing the country. Because the Supremes lacked a monster hit, initial enthusiasm for us started to fade....
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    How about “longer contracts and no hits” or...

    How about “longer contracts and no hits” or longer contracts and sold fewer than 5000 records?
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    So are you saying we should sing “who could ask...

    So are you saying we should sing “who could ask for anything more?”

    I think your comments are fair. So often we hear Motown did this to Mary, Martha, Florence, Brenda, Chris, David etc

    But you...
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    Sadly, not really a voice that was wanted or...

    Sadly, not really a voice that was wanted or associated with the Supremes. And especially there were no takers by the time of MSS.

    But I believe music just moved on from the Supremes and from...
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    If you read Will You Love Me Tomorrow, you will...

    If you read Will You Love Me Tomorrow, you will see these groups were rife with abusive men, drug problems and alcohol problems. It was a different time where some of these issues weren’t even...
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    This really spells out that Motown considered...

    This really spells out that Motown considered Mary as little more than window dressing especially after about 1972
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    The single edit was excellent - especially how...

    The single edit was excellent - especially how there would be a couple seconds of silence and then Jean singing “Stoned Love………”
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    Bayou said Cindy wasn’t ready to perform so she...

    Bayou said Cindy wasn’t ready to perform so she likely had no resources for lawyers or managers. So there she goes along with Mary - who really right through to the end never had great management or...
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    In retrospect, it seems that Mary came to a...

    In retrospect, it seems that Mary came to a similar realization and reckoning to the one Diana had. Diana wanted control and away from Berry’s hands.

    Mary wanted away from the control of Motown...
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    I think this is a case of someone with a...

    I think this is a case of someone with a spectacular voice - but just because Susaye is a great singer doesn’t mean you are going to be commercial and have hits.


    In terms of singing, in her day...
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    I don’t think it was a question of like. I also...

    I don’t think it was a question of like. I also don’t think beautiful could take her very far.

    I think it was about business and there were no hits from Mary herself and as Mary said, the albums...
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