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  1. Welcome to the forum. If you have the time to...

    Welcome to the forum. If you have the time to search, and don't mind driving yourself crazy, there are indeed opinions here in Soulful Detroit that either insinuate or downright question whether Mary...
  2. I wouldn't say they needed to grow up. I think...

    I wouldn't say they needed to grow up. I think they were too mature for the general buying public, which was certainly the J5 crowd and the college aged folks. They definitely needed to be more real...
  3. He would have slapped his forehead, and in his...

    He would have slapped his forehead, and in his best Homer Simpson impression before there was ever a Homer Simpson, he would have said "Doh!":p

    All jokes aside, Gordy was a man of the street. He...
  4. Well, some people question whether this happened...

    Well, some people question whether this happened at all. Others, like myself, or maybe I'm the only one:cool:, believe that the conversation did happen, but Gordy was not serious with his suggestion....
  5. Agreed to a point. The J5 factor in, but again,...

    Agreed to a point. The J5 factor in, but again, if Motown was hellbent on the Jean Supremes staying on top, there would have been a push to do something groundbreaking when "Touch" failed to make it....
  6. Agreed. I imagine there was some friendly...

    Agreed. I imagine there was some friendly competition between both of them, but ultimately Mary wanted to continue to succeed, as Diana wanted to do the same. What idiot accomplishes what Mary and...
  7. Where in Mary's book did she manipulate their...

    Where in Mary's book did she manipulate their success? The proof is in the pudding. Those first two Jean years, the Supremes had better success with singles than Diana did, with the exception of...
  8. Oh man, how this lady could sing. Mary and Cindy...

    Oh man, how this lady could sing. Mary and Cindy do a great job as well. But damn, Jean...I love to hear her sing "If My Friends Could See Me Now". This is what Gordy and Co heard that made them...
  9. Sup, I'd argue that all of those things you list...

    Sup, I'd argue that all of those things you list for the 60s Supremes were the result of their massive hits. The DRATS period, which wasn't nearly as prolific hit wise as the Flo period, benefitted...
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    While one can ponder if this would have had any...

    While one can ponder if this would have had any effect on the group's success one way or the other, the fact is that it's a horrible business move on the part of any artist to allow the record label...
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    OMG, how could I forget "Let Yourself Go"? Add...

    OMG, how could I forget "Let Yourself Go"? Add it, along with "Dream" and "Heart", in a three way tie for my fav cuts on the album. I loved LYG from the first listen when I bought the GH and Rare...
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    Honestly, "Teardrops" is the only song during the...

    Honestly, "Teardrops" is the only song during the Scherrie years that I have any confidence in becoming a big hit. Could it have hit #1? Maybe, especially considering some of the schmaltzy ballads...
  13. I'm not crazy about most really high pitched...

    I'm not crazy about most really high pitched female singers, so the way Susaye starts the song off and the way she ends it, with those high notes, I didn't care for it. Found it very annoying. But...
  14. She had/has a right to her opinion...stupid as it...

    She had/has a right to her opinion...stupid as it may be.:p

    I just looked up the original review. She didn't actually say Diana Ross can't sing, but she made it clear she doesn't view Diana's...
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    I agree about "Driving Wheel". I like it, it's a...

    I agree about "Driving Wheel". I like it, it's a really good song, but I don't think it had any type of "wow" factor. "Dream Machine" had it.

    As for Susaye, I think she added an excitement factor...
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    I think it's a tie between "Dream" and "You Are...

    I think it's a tie between "Dream" and "You Are the Heart Of Me" for me. I still think "Sweet Dream Machine" is one of the best cuts from the Scherrie years. They knocked that one out of the park. I...
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    Also "Sleepwalk" and "All Of A Sudden My Heart...

    Also "Sleepwalk" and "All Of A Sudden My Heart Sings" have the group sound.
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    Absolutely a favorite of mine!

    Absolutely a favorite of mine!
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    I would add to that the Sam Cooke album. My...

    I would add to that the Sam Cooke album. My criticism of the decision to use LA musicians instead of the Funks aside, vocally the ladies were spot on. "Cupid", "Chain Gang", "Bring It On Home To Me",...
  20. Yup. "I Want A Twistin Guy", "Popcorn Twist" or...

    Yup. "I Want A Twistin Guy", "Popcorn Twist" or "Buttered Twist", "Who's Twistin You", "Baby Don't Twist", "Because I Love To Twist".:p
  21. You and Ben have more faith in the forward...

    You and Ben have more faith in the forward thinking of Gordy and Co than I do. I don't believe they ever thought about these things. Recording, pressing records and promoting them cost money. You...
  22. Flo's masters were purchased by Motown, probably...

    Flo's masters were purchased by Motown, probably because someone at the label saw the wisdom in Motown holding the option on the recordings for future release. It boggles my mind that, of Motown's...
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    Yeah, that's one of the interesting aspects of...

    Yeah, that's one of the interesting aspects of DRATS. Mary and Cindy were certainly more often than not "drapes", but there was some exceptional live performances planned that showcased them as a...
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    The entire Copa album is Diana doubled if I...

    The entire Copa album is Diana doubled if I recall correctly. After the actual recording, Diana went into the studio to sing along. Can't quite recall whether this was because of a sound issue or...
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    Agreed. Would've been interesting if HDH had...

    Agreed. Would've been interesting if HDH had decided to rework the song into a more upbeat tune for A Go Go.
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