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This was ex-Motowner, ex-husband of Mary Wells, Herman Griffin producing his new ladyfriend's group:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgkHL7AXh2M
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This was ex-Motowner, ex-husband of Mary Wells, Herman Griffin producing his new ladyfriend's group:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgkHL7AXh2M
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Here's another Richard Parker production, and another Mary Love song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyXBUsj9GfE&list=PLNTAoASr7COfm9NNTHRQ Xm_a 1T9S2YjNt&index=11
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Here's another J.J. Barnes produced by ex-Motowner, Don Davis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7b3PGR6zDc&list=PLNTAoASr7COfm9NNTHRQ Xm_a 1T9S2YjNt&index=87
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This sounds like a late 1962 or early 1963 Motown cut. Probably several Motown musicians playing on it, and I've heard that songwriter, Dorothy Pierce, was an alias for Holland, Dozier, and Holland, because Dorothy Pierce was the name of Brian Holland's mother-in-law:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxFweeGhtK4
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Here's one from Detroit drummer/producer, Melvin Davis, who also worked on many Motown sessions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljWwjbPqqig
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Clinton and his crew wrote many songs for Jobete Music while working in Motown's New York office [[most in New York, but, a few while in Detroit). Why would only THIS particular song need Holland's and Dozier's name on pt for Motown's copyright protection? That makes no sense. If that were true, why weren't their names on Jobete songs: "You Don't Say Nothing", "If You Can Stand Me", "I Misjudged You", and others??? All members of The Parliaments commented on their time staying in Detroit, and working at Motown's offices there, as well as regular Detroit-based Motown staff and artists mentioning The Parliaments being there for a while. I rather think that George collaborated with Brian and Lamont on this song, while George was in Detroit.
But the difference is that there are parts of melodies and lyrics from existing songs.
This could have been a Four Tops release... Penned by Popcorn Wiley, Tony Hester, and legendary Luther Dixon... Detroit/Motown connections could explain it... https://youtu.be/KO0Zba2Y5Uw
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The instrumental on that Gwen Owens song is quite good, and something of which to be proud.
My Man, A Sweet Man by Millie Jackson. Sounds like the Funk Bros on this one
If it hasn't been mentioned, "Talk It Over" by Grayson Hugh is pure Motown.
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Which original songs have pieces copied in Roy Handy's song? And were ALL of those songs written by only one Holland brother, and Lamont Dozier? Otherwise Holland-Dozier-Holland should ALL be listed along with Clinton.
^^^ Though "Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide" is included in the lyrics, I can hear musical phrases borrowed from "I Can't Help Myself" in the backing.
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So, if THAT is the reason Holland and Dozier are included, then why aren't there BOTH Hollands?
^^^Like I said, it was just an assumption.
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Here's yet another J.J. Barnes cut that sounds like Motown - and why not? It was written and arranged by Motown's band leader of that exact time, Joe Hunter, and all the musicians on it had played for Motown at one time or another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v81nzHMbf1I
I'm sure there are many more by J.J. that we forgot to add to this thread.
a lot of really great songs in this thread
really could/should be a motown sound copycats box set
I'd buy it
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So would a lot of other people. And I'd offer to supply 300 dpi scans of the labels, and write the liner notes/for a gratis set! ;)
Maybe I should run this idea past Ace/Kent? Or would gathering all the rights to the most obscure of them be too difficult, and cost more than they could get back in sales? :[[
HONEY CONE - "It's Better To Have Loved And Lost"
https://youtu.be/6uNv3zn1e-E?si=onzVT0tVgQSSNUhc
How about Tina Britt's "The Real Thing"? Always wondered how H-D-H felt about this song, which is a dance floor stomper to this day?
I must be getting old, I dug out my 45 of "The Real Thing" the song was written by Ashford & Simpson along with Joshie Armstrong on Eastern Records which was a SUE Records subsiderairy. The movie in 1988 is called "The In Crowd" & was pretty good.
Dear lover-mary wells
"Shut up and kiss me" by Marianas Trench is in the vein of "I want you back" and "ABC"
The ad-libs at the end "Don't sound like Mike did, no but it's alright for a white kid"
https://youtu.be/CodDPtokphs?si=28QHS7A7q5k5lCcm