and my all time favorite Bobby Brown performance.........hehehehehehe!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFI-8CIu6E
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and my all time favorite Bobby Brown performance.........hehehehehehe!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFI-8CIu6E
I remember seeing a Bobby Brown show in the '80s. He was the headliner although I preferred other acts on the lineup [[Brick, Michael Henderson, Zapp). Brown put on a good show but I left dissatisfied because he only performed for about 30-40 minutes and didn't even sing all of the songs on his album that I liked. I know he only had two records up until that point, but if he was on top of a card of seasoned musical vets, I'd have appreciated him taking the show over the top. Of course, nobody can really do that following a Roger Troutman show but still...
With that said, back then he definitely had energy and the crowd got into it. In my personal opinion, he got off to a great start so early in his career and didn't build on it. I couldn't care much less about the drama off the stage because we all have drama and none of us should cast rocks.
That's not an excuse for being a prick and judged by your actions, though. If I had first hand experience with him like Bluebrock, I'd feel exactly the same way.
I agree Jerry and there is an interview where Bobby complains that he was only given 25 mins for his segment of a concert when he wanted more time to entertain "the people". He love being onstage. I look past all the drama because living in Boston, I got a first hand look at how he and the other members of New Edition came up. ROUGH! Similar to Detroit, Philly, Chicago and NYC! For him to come out of that and make a name for himself is commendable in my opinion. I know people like him, that's another reason why I cannot judge his person life and habits too harshly. His job was to entertain and that is what he did and he did it well!
LOL. I think I brought her up as someone, who like Bobby Brown, owed a lot to her producers. There were better singers who never benefited from great songs like Janet and Bobby did. With that said, the "better" singers would have sounded like crap singing "Don't Be Cruel" and "Nasty Boys", so it's unfair for me to suggest that they had no talent.
Oh Bobby had talent. And the drive.
But he also was self-destructive. His ego [[and crimes) overshadowed his talent and he really has no one to blame but himself for that.
He still ain't take no blame in why his marriage to Whitney didn't work, STILL saying Whitney didn't call the cops on him when it was obvious she did!
Teddy Pendergrass grew up in a rough area of North Philly. He didn't do nearly half the stuff Bobby did but that may be because he was raised in a God-fearing Christian household. That would make a difference between how he turned out and how Bobby who grew up in Roxbury turned out. Think his parents were religious too but they were too lenient on their kids. Would explain a lot.
I know, I use to live Philly. Teddy took my friend Beverly to her senior prom in 1967. Yeah, Teddy was a mama's boy, a church boy when he was a kid. He got into things as he got older....we all did. I don't recall hearing that Bobby Brown's parents were that religious, I do know from meeting people when I lived in Boston that knew Bobby and the guys that they were partially raised by the streets! One night while I was still living there, Bobby and his soon to be brother in law were at the bar Barritz [[sp?). They got involved in a fight and a shoot out ensued. The brother in law was killed!
Well Whitney mentioned his parents went to church saying they were as God-fearing as her parents. LOL
I think she was only saying that so people can stop acting like they were so different but truth was there were subtle differences. Some members of Whitney's family were PROFESSIONAL gospel singers and Bobby's family as you mentioned, ran the streets. BIG difference lol
Didn't LaFace get sued by a backup singer who said that she sang the lead vocals on the album over Abdul? If I recall correctly, it was one of Rick James' Mary Jane Girls. To date, nobody has taken credit for singing any of Bobby's songs, so there's that. LOL.
I really don't know much about Bobby's family. I do know the area he came up in was rough! I went everywhere around Boston and nothing shocked me, even the very racist South Boston. I remember for 2 solid weeks, I did not see one black person walking anywhere in Downtown Boston and then at the end of the 2nd week, I saw this kid come up out of the MTA with some other kids and he was black. LOL!
I want you to show ME anywhere in any of my posts where I said that Bobby Brown was a talented vocalist. You need to stop lying. Why are you lying? What point are you attempting to make with your feeble lies on me? I do not like liars or people that put lies in others mouths or attribute what they know to be a lie to someone else. Just stop with the lies now! Stick to something I've said if you are so Hell bent on picking a fight with me.
I am waiting. What is taking you so long to point out where I said that Bobby Brown is a talented vocalist. You know you are lying.
She could dance. A great dancer and choreographer. I always thought it funny that she was a judge on "American Idol". Say what you will about Bobby, Paula or Janet as singers, they all were great performers. With that said, I'm 100% most singers who jump around and put on high energy shows do so with backing vocal tracks, which I abhor. Dancing while singing in the same even voice while sucking in huge breaths, is nearly impossible. If I want to see my favorite artist lip sync, I'll watch the video. I can tell you that Bobby Brown didn't do that at the show I attended. I'm pretty sure Janet augments her shows and I know that Paula Abdul used to.
I don't recall you saying it, Marv. Maybe he confused you with me when I said that although there were better vocalists who couldn't find a hit, I don't think the greatest hits from Janet or Bobby would have been as good if someone like Johnny Gill or Celine Dion sang them. They may not have been fantastic vocalists but they made the most of their opportunities.
Anyway back to Bobby...
Seems like the domestic violence claim against Whitney will continue to be a cloud against him:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a8471336.html
Also he can deny that Whitney called because Bobby hit her because she stopped short but she DID file spousal abuse claims against him at that time so it's in the record!!! Also HE turned himself in for misdemeanor battery.
If he has really changed as he said, he'd admit that he did wrong to Whitney. He can't even admit THAT!
Also Whitney told the world that Bobby spit at her and slapped her. He gonna deny that of course.
If the film shows him being abusive to Whitney, then this fool is stupider than I thought.
Jerry, that's because I've never said that! Uh uh, he did not confuse me with anyone. He has a history with trying to pick fights with me on here for some reason and I am getting very tired of it. I said that Bobby is very talented. He is an overall entertainer. He's even done some acting in a film with Martin Lawrence [[I can't remember the name of the movie at the moment). Bobby also raps at times in his music and his dancing is natural looking. I think some people have a "problem" with his perceived "thug" image [[you know where I am going with this.......) that may or may not actually exist.
I think because he did not come off prim and proper and was unapologetic about what he knew he could do. People did the same thing to Rick James when he first surfaced. There are a ton of huge Rock and Roll stars [[Bob Dylan anyone?) that can't sing shit! They sound like shit whenever I listen to Hard Rock artists trying to sing. They just sound like they are screaming to me. I know Bobby Brown can't do what Howard Hewitt does, but on the other hand, Howard could not do what Bobby did. I could name 3 dozen Rock stars that cannot sing even a little bit!
Look, I know you're young, but let me explain something about the World to you. NO MAN has to admit or explain anything to the public about what went on in his home between him and his wife! We don't know what part Whitney played in all that drama either. Bobby has a new wife that is good looking and intelligent from the interviews I've seen, along with a new family of kids. I really don't care too much at all about what he and Whitney got up to when they were married. Everybody in this country of hypocrites always want to jump on the man, which why we now have this "Me Too" situation. Leave it alone.
There are 10 mediocre-to-awful popular singers for every Luther Vandross out there. Very few artists can go from beautiful ballads to great dance cuts like a Johnnie Wilder, Jr. With that being said, a great producer can make a great artist by handling him or her the right way. So Bobby may not win a blind audition on "The Voice". So what? He sold records because people appreciated what he did, which was plenty. As I said before, my only problem [[which is MY problem) with him is I wish that someone who ascended so fast and so soon could have had a longer and more successful career. God bless that brother for who and what he is, though. Which is no better or worse than any of us.
Jerry I agree 1000%! Bobby [[and some others) were like tools [[as in instruments) for their producers. This is what went on often in the 60s with producers like Phil Spector, Holland-Dozier-Holland, Teddy Randazzo and many more. They took kids off of the streets and created hit records using what could be considered their modest talents. Even the early Beatles. None of them were great singers or musicians, but the producer more than helped create a sound for them that would be popular with the masses. How many times have you seen artists that once scored huge hits only to hit rock bottom once they changed labels and producers. Smokey created magic with Mary Wells. She was not a stellar singer, but she could do more than carry a tune and Smokey wrote and produced around her abilities.
I too wished Bobby could extended his thing a bit longer. I think he started to lapse once he married Whitney. He went out on the road with her instead of being in the studio working on his own music.
I wanted to add. Look at what Prince was able to do with Vanity and Apollonia! Perfect examples of the producer working magic.
You have absolutely no idea about the very important "Me Too" movement and how it is empowering ABUSED women to come forward and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Why would you? You defend and condone Ike Turner and Cosby and Pedro Ferrer and Bobby Brown. That is all! Nuff said!
Yep. Just a side note on Jamie Starr's productions is that I heard that Prince and Morris Day did almost all the songs on the Time's first LP. But it's amazing that their second record is my favorite soul/funk/R&B album from the '80s. But they were clearly the exception and not the rule.
Hmm... Now that I think about it, New Edition blossomed after leaving Maurice Starr [[no relation, LOL). There might be a good thread that can explore performers who left their labels/producers and wound up being better.