Yep Jerry...""The Black Panther". My brother and I had his comics beginning around 1968! Stan Lee had courage now that I look back. The real Black Panthers were active at that time!
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Remember that[iron man-tony stark]was also black,which means that if somebody had some courage-terrace howard would've had that role.
I only remember him being a white dude but Terrence Howard got screwed for making a power move for more loot playing War Machine in the movies. How did he get fired for asking for more money but Robert Downey, Jr. got a percentage of profits of those movies that netted him hundreds of millions?
Now that the Black Panther already has over $100 million in advance sales [[a record for a comic book movie), I'm hoping that studios stop taking black people for granted. It's been know for years that we spend a disproportionate amount of our income on things like fast food and entertainment. Yet, come Oscar time there's very few black nominees because all of the good roles go to white people.
Denzel Washington is the only black actor who gets roles that are either colorless or written for white men. And now, Octavia Spencer, Viola Davis, and Taraji P. Henson are getting love frequently for the great job they do on a consistent basis. I'm probably going back to the movies this year [[starting with "The Black Panther") but I refuse to patronize productions that have no black characters or producers. That goes for TV shows too, by the way.
Terrence Howard was the one that got Robert Downey Jr. the job on the film Iron Man. When Terrence was having trouble with producers, he went to Downey for support and was refused! They told him that all they essentially needed was Robert Downey and that Terrence could take it [[the low money) or leave it!
That's messed up. I'm a bigger Don Cheadle fan than I am a Terrence Howard fan, but I wish that he hadn't been available to take the part. [[Why is Public Enemy's "Burn Hollywood, Burn!") all of a sudden playing in my head right now?
What is your take on Mo'Nique calling for black people to boycott Netflix after they, in her mind anyway, low-balled her for a comedy special? I want to see her side of it, but I can see it from their perspective as a business as well. They're in the business of maintaining their subscriber base, not adding to it. I'm not sure she would be a priority program their subscribers. So should she be paid for general principle of fairness? And you know that a sister having the nerve to complain about this is likely going to cost her other opportunities. Burn Hollywood, Burn!
I heard that the real T on Mo'Nique/Netflix is that they initially offered her $3 million [[still lowball considering her Oscar and resumé, IMHO) on the condition that she showcase/audition for them. She refused and then the $500K offer was placed.
I want to see her do well, but if that's true, she can't get out of her own way. I mean, if you can make $3 million doing something else, turn it down. But to turn down a payday like that because they gave Amy Schumer's unfunny ass more is a stand on principle that needs to be heavily considered.
Uh uh, nope! How did Netflix go from a $3 million offer to a $ 500,000 offer. The guy Juwan Murray is lying. He is the one that put that out there. I do not know what his profession is, but he said it, along with dragging Mo'nique's husband through the mud. It logically does not make sense. Netflix has made no such statement.
She did not turn down $ 3million. Netflix never made her that type of offer. Some guy named Juwan Murray [[who apparently does not care for women, especially black women) said that. He is trying to cover for certain people that have an axe to grind with Mo'nique.
Ok, I just found this on the guy:
Jawn Murray is a quick-witted TV host, Media Personality and Pop Culture Expert with a cosmic knowledge of entertainment news, celebrity culture, social issues and trending topics.
"Cosmic Knowledge"? If that does not make him suspect, I don't what will.
Check this out:
http://www.stlamerican.com/entertain...62d732627.html
Back to the memories for me.
Stan Lee has been hospitalized:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainm...D=ansmsnnews11
Remember wearing rain slickers to school? A rain slicker and a pair of galoshes made me invincible walking to school in cold wet mornings.
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Hey have you all noticed how happy we are discussing our childhood[teen]days,but when we bring current events in it's get to be a downer?
I noticed. I'm Trumped when I try to figure out why that might be.
Yeah Jerry but that one is a little to modern looking. Now these are the types of rain coats/slickers we wore as kids in the 60s:
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Marv, I forgot about the buckles on the old raincoats. That brings me back. And the world is simpler for kids. Our parents had all kinds of rotten things to deal with and had the same musings about how much better things were when they were young. My best friend from high school told me how his father had been a career Airman who'd served tours in Viet Nam. Somebody in the Air Force tipped him off that he was scheduled for another deployment shortly before he was going to re-up and he chose to leave the service. I remember my folks both working at the same factory when their union called for a wildcat strike, forcing us on food stamps for a month. But neither my friend nor I knew that there was something to worry about but our folks sure did. Parents don't tell their kids about the things that keep them awake at night. Once you grow up and see how scary things are, it's hard to focus on just the good stuff and now, it's hard for us to sleep.
I now give much credit to the parents that raised the kids of my generation. I mean it was pretty common for families to have 4,5, 6 kids and all of them being taken care of very well and out of trouble. It could not have been easy, but as you said, my parents never let on if it were hard.
All memories aren't good, though. Lord, I remember watching the evening news with daily reports of how many American troops were killed in Viet Nam that week. Even as a kid, I wondered about all of the family and loved ones that had to mourn hundreds of dead soldiers. I'll never forget going to the funeral for my cousin, who I never met but was killed in Southeast Asia. I hate war and politicians who declare and fund and support it to this day because of that horrible childhood recollection.
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I'm so old, I remember when raincoats were black and rubber, and no one had other colours. They were hot, as they didn't "breathe".
Jerry you said we sound like we may have had the same childhoods. Well just like you, I use to go to bed and sometimes have nightmares that they would bomb our neighborhood just from seeing the CBS evening news with Walter Cronkite and those grainy black and white films of the combat in Vietnam almost every night. They did not have satellites then, so the fighting was not live . They had to send reporters out to the fields, film it and then fly the film back for network broadcast. Still has a young kid it made it feel like the war and fighting were closer to us than it was. I remember driving through the neighborhoods during Christmas and seeing all of the red, white and blue star decals in the windows of homes that had servicemen in Vietnam. A guy that was a huge track and football star at the my high school I would later attend was killed in Nam in 1970. They had this huge photo put up of him in our fieldhouse.
I remember going to see "Apolcalypse Now" in 1979, a year before having to register for the draft. The character "Clean" who was played by Larry Fishburne [[back then) reminded me of myself and when he was shot dead on the trawler with his mother's voice playing on a cassette in the background, it altered my world view. I can't lie, I had a long debate with myself asking if I would go if called.
And "Platoon" came out a few years later and blew me away. I'll never forget the time my brother wrote to my Mom from the Air Force in the '80s when he asked her if she had my uncle's old letters from Viet Nam. He'd read them a decade earlier and couldn't shake the image in his mind of the one in which my uncle described seeing villagers walking across a bridge that the VC had mined. Especially when he talked about the crying mother picking up pieces of her dead child.
I know that had I been drafted, I would have gone. I know that if there was a war, I'd fight. But I also know that most politicians who declare it for less than the proper defense of the country are cowards. That's how I know that the Moron will be starting a conflict sometime before Summer is up. God bless our vets, but may God damn those for who their lives are something to be toyed with.
Too much information for a light thread. Sorry I brought it up, Marv. But Jai's post about how heavy things are now made me wonder if they were really lighter back then and that put me on track for thinking about it.
I remember when we would go to the firehouse on field trips and they would demonstrate sliding down the pole and we thought it was the coolest thing ever,jerry you and marv are right on about how good our parents raised us and protected us from the bitterness that they had to deal with day to day,i used to watch the news but as a kid that stuff went right over my head,but i would hear my folks talking about it but they kept us happy as we try to do today with our own,i'm blessed to have raised three to adulthood[my wife did most of the work]i just brought home the paycheck like my father before me,our fathers raised us to be men as in responsible and i've tried to instill that in my own.
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Does anybody remember "The Midnight Special"? I don't think I realized it back then but that was one of the greatest shows ever. And I just saw that "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" series is available on DVD. That one was good, too.
Hey jerry,anything besides recess that got us out of the building was a fieldtrip,including the fire drills,hehe.
Yeah, one of the worst things about matriculating to junior high was the loss of recess.
There was no recess in jr.high?...opps!!!
I had to go to my neighborhood Post Office and register for the draft in the Summer of 1981 or I would be able to get my student loan for the Fall Semester. I'll never forget that It was just me and one other guy registering the day I went. I knew the guy from playing basketball at Hyde Park. He had one leg shorter than the other so he did not have to worry about ever getting drafted.
Remember "The Midnight Special"? Of course. I even remember our routine. Pop the popcorn and get the Kool-Aid ready. LOL! Midnight Special was on NBC and "Rock Concert was on ABC. We watched Midnight Special beginning in 1972 until roughly 1980. By that time I was out in Denver in college.
Nope. But that is where I met some of my best friends. I remember the shock to my system of not going through a day-long class with my friends as opposed to having a different class every period. Having to take responsibility for getting from point A to point B in a few minutes with my books and homework was the other big difference. In the eighth grade,
Typing 1 popped up on my schedule and I wondered where in the heck that came from. Turns out, Mom did that. Didn't know why then, but that was one of the most fundamentally important classes that I ever took in my life. Been taking advantage of it since then at work and at home.
I just posted the Power video in the Dennis Edwards music thread. I clearly remember watching them that night. This was when Midnight Special had people dancing on platforms towards the end of the Disco era. I remember seeing the O'Jays, Natalie Cole, EWF, Al Green, ELO, The Bee Gee's just to name a few.
I remember watching Curtis Mayfield on Rock Concert. He was singing "Freddy's Dead" and songs from the Superfly soundtrack. I didn't like the bass line or the words and that song grated on me so bad when he was singing it. Curiously, about ten years later, I became a fan of Curtis Mayfield - the musician and the man - and that song suddenly was one of my favorite songs by him. I understand that as a kid in a world that was far removed from one in Superfly, I was shocked by the imagery of it.
I think that I didn't like being exposed to something as unsavory as that via music. But now, it is a great record and thanks to all these geekers, tweakers, and drug abusing thrill seekers doing all of these drugs out here in 2018, it's just as significant 45 years after it was a hit.
There was a guy name John who rode on my school bus to the career center. He was a cool guy but awfully naive, overly friendly, had no volume control in his voice, and got teased more than a lot of other kids. Almost everybody liked him, though. Well, John was a big fan of the group Foxy, who had a huge hit with "Get Off" and a lesser hit with "Hot Number". One night, they popped up on the Midnight Special and were very very clearly gay in their manner of dress and dancing. And right or wrong, that was taboo at my school [[and definitely on my bus). By the time we took the ride on Monday afternoon, I guess John had already heard about his favorite band all day because his eyes were red and he didn't talk to anybody, even though they were still piling on. John never asked the guy with the boombox to turn up a Foxy song ever again. To my knowledge, Foxy's star stopped rising soon after that and these days, they aren't considered to be more than a marginal disco outfit. Personally, I attribute their drop off to that appearance.