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Soulster,
I had a grandson run through something on a computer for me, and by the time he finished, what I learned was to call him when I needed some tech assistance.
Not to put you on the spot, Ralph, but do you think it's true that when most people age, they lose their cognitive abilities?
Not sure what I had in the first place, Soul, but probably so.
Coincidentally a friend sent me this link to an old newspaper article recently.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/scie...w-so-much.html
Maybe that's the reason why so many of us find it hard to deal with new stuff?! [[despite the theory subsequently disproved by the technical experts.)
Going back to Ralph's original story, I was slightly surprised that, with all the talk about the vinyl revival, that the young cook didn't really know how records 'worked'. But I suppose even though there's been a mini boom, it's only involves a relatively few people.
By the way, we also need to tell these young folk that a quantity of records is not called 'vinyls' but they are still 'vinyl'! Far too often I hear and see the word 'vinyls' when referring to more than one disc. "I've been playing more vinyls recently." It's plural noun - a shepherd doesn't have 50 sheeps!
I think it is always possible that cognitive abilities can actually increase with age, provided the interest is strong enough, and also the will to actually apply oneself to a new task, not just muse on it.
It's natural to have tried and trusted routines, which become very engrained over decades, so responding to change needs some thought,to override long-established habits [[for example, negative thinking), and to recognise any benefits.
Besides, the young can start each day with a relatively blank canvas. People of our years have many memories which can be triggered by new experiences. Those memories seemingly float in and out of our minds at will, and can really distract us....
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Mr. Soul in the 60s and early 70s are television broadcast days usually ended around 12 midnight. How long was the broadcast day in the UK?
Marv2 it appears about the same, here's the listing on BBC1 from 4th January 1969.
12.00 : THE WEATHER MAN
Graham Parker
Contributors
Unknown: Graham Parker
12.05 : LAUREL AND HARDY
Two of the world's greatest laughter-makers in a selection of their famous short films
The Live Ghost
A Hal Roach film
Directed by Charles Rogers
Stan and Ollie try to get a crew for a haunted ship and find themselves afloat.
Contributors
Unknown: Hal Roach
Directed By: Charles Rogers
12.25 : ZOKKO!
Noise! Adventure! Glitter]
Today's edition includes:
Skayn
10: The Deadly Planet . . . with the voices of SHEELAGH McGRATH
GORDON CLYDE , ANTHONY JACKSON and pictures by LESLIE CASWELL
The breathtaking ...
Eddy Limbo and Pat Zokkol music by BRIAN FAHEY
Animation by TED LEWIS and MALCOLM DRAPER
Directed by PAUL CIANI
Written and produced by MOLLY COX
Contributors
Unknown: Sheelagh McGrath
Unknown: Gordon Clyde
Unknown: Anthony Jackson
Unknown: Leslie Caswell
Unknown: Pat Zokkol
Music By: Brian Fahey
Unknown: Ted Lewis
Unknown: Malcolm Draper
Directed By: Paul Ciani
Produced By: Molly Cox
12.45 : GRANDSTAND
See panel below
TODAY'S TIMETABLE
12.55 Fight of the Week
1.10 Racing
1.2S F.A. Cup preview
1.35 Racing
1.55 Ski-ing
2.5 Racing
2.25 Ski-ing
2.35 Racing
2.55 Swimming
3.10 Rugby League
3.30 Swimming
3.45 Rugby League
4.30 Swimming
4.40 Teleprinter
4.46 Swimming
4.55 Results Service
Classified football results
Racing results, Rugby Union and Rugby League results
These timings mau be altered by events
17.15 : DR WHO
An adventure in space and time starring PATRICK TROUGHTON FRAZER HINES WENDY PADBURY James Copeland, Gilbert Wynne
The Krotons by ROBERT HOLMES
PART 2: The Doctor and Zoe are tested by the Teaching Machines. Their score is high-and they are summoned by the dreaded Krotons...
Cast in order of appearance:
Title music by RON GRAINER and the BBC Radiophonic Workshop
Script editor, Terrance Dicks
Designer, Raymond London
Producer, PETER BRYANT
Directed by DAVID MALONEY
Contributors
Written by: Robert Holmes
Title Music By: Ron Grainer
Script Editor: Terrance Dicks
Designer: Raymond London
Producer: Peter Bryant
Directed By: David Maloney
Dr Who: Patrick Troughton
Zoe: Wendy Padbury
Jamie: Frazer Hines
Setris: James Copeland
Thara: Gilbert Wynne
Vana: Madeleine Mills
Krotons: Robert La'Bassiere, Miles Northover
Kroton voices: Roy Skelton, Patrick Tull
17.40 : THE NEWS
and THE WEATHER MAN Graham Parker
Contributors
Unknown: Graham Parker
17.50 : HERE'S LUCY
a A new comedy film series starring and Mod, Mod Lucy
...finds herself a slice of the action
Contributors
Lucy Carter: Lucille Ball
her children, Craig: Desi Armaz Jr
her children, Kim: Lucie
Harrison Carter: Gale Gordon
18.15 : HAPPENING FOR LULU
A series of programmes of music and laughter featuring the world of LULU her special guests and friends
•
Johnny Harris and his Orchestra
Vocal backing
Sue and Sunny with Kay and Pan's People
Choreography, Flick Colby
Design, J. Roger Lowe
Production, STANLEY DORFMAN
Among the guests Lulu will welcome tonight is Jimi Hendrix whose sensational rendering of Dylan's song ' All along the watch-tower ' recently rocketed him back into the Top Ten.
Contributors
Unknown: Johnny Harris
Design: J. Roger Lowe
Unknown: Stanley Dorfman
Unknown: Jimi Hendrix
19.00 : THE MORECAMBE AND WISE SHOW
Written by DICK HILLS and SID GREEN starring
ERIC MORECAMBE and ERNIE WISE
Guest artists, GEORGIA BROWN, LOS ZAFIROS
With Jenny Lee-Wright, Bettine Le Beau
Orchestra directed by ALYN AINSWORTH
Design, Brian Tregidden
Produced by JOHN AMMONDS
First shown on BBC-2
Contributors
Written By: Dick Hills, Sid Green
Artists: Georgia Brown
Artists: Los Zafiros
Unknown: Jenny Lee-Wright
Unknown: Bettine Le Beau
Directed By: Alyn Ainsworth
Design: Brian Tregidden
Produced By: John Ammonds
19.30 : THE ROLF HARRIS SHOW
starring
ROLF HARRIS with THE YOUNG GENERATION
VALERIE BARRETT BOBBY BANNERMAN HEATHER BECKERS Chris COOPER MARlEFINCH
ANN CHAPMAN DANNY GROVER
ANNCHAPMAN
JACKIE DALTON HARRY HIGHAM JANE HERBERT ROGER HOWLETT LINDA HERBERT ERIK-JACK
LINDA JOLI. IFF SCOT MACKEB
LESLEY JUDD DENNIS MORRISEY KAY KORDA PETER NEWTON LINDA LAWRENCE BRIAN ROGERS PATRICIA LOVETT BARRY STEVENS SANDY PENSON RICKY STRATFUL TERRY ROBINSON DONALD TORR
WEI WEI WONG TREVOR WILLIS
Choreography, DOUGLAS SQUIRES
Guest artists,
ESTHER and ABI OFARIM PAUL JONES
TONY CAWLEY
MARIE LAFORET
Orchestra directed by ALYN AINSWORTH
Musical arrangements by Alan Roper and Norman Percival
Script by Spike Mullins , Joe Steeples
Costumes, Rupert Jarvis
Design, Victor Meredith and Roger Murray-Leach
Production, STEWART MORRIS See page 27
Contributors
Unknown: Rolf Harris
Unknown: Linda Herbert Erik-Jack
Unknown: Linda Joli.
Unknown: Abi Ofarim
Unknown: Paul Jones
Unknown: Tony Cawley
Unknown: Marie Laforet
Directed By: Alyn Ainsworth
Arrangements By: Alan Roper
Arrangements By: Norman Percival
Script By: Spike Mullins
Script By: Joe Steeples
Unknown: Rupert Jarvis
Design: Victor Meredith
Design: Roger Murray-Leach
Unknown: Stewart Morris
20.15 : THE SATURDAY THRILLER: TENSION
Feature films with suspense, danger, excitement
Tension starring
RICHARD BASEHART
AUDREY TOTTER with Cyd Charisse , Barry Sullivan Lloyd Gough
Screenplay by ALLEN RIVKIN Produced and directed by John Berry
A jealous husband plans the murder of his wife's lover by assuming a false identity, with a result very different from that Intended. Richard Basehart gives a characteristically sensitive and Intelligent performance as the man in question.
Contributors
Unknown: Richard Basehart
Unknown: Cyd Charisse
Unknown: Barry Sullivan
Unknown: Lloyd Gough
Unknown: Allen Rivkin
Directed By: John Berry
Unknown: Richard Basehart
Warren Quimby: Richard Basehart
Claire Quimby: Audrey Totter
Mary Chanler: Cyd Charisse
Lt Collier Bonnabel: Barry Sullivan
Barney Daeger: Lloyd Gough
Freddie: Tom D'Andrea
Lt Edgar Gonsales: William Conrad
Narco: Tito Renalde
21.45 : TILL DEATH US DO PART
In sickness and in health
When we are ill, few of us make good patients at home or in hospital. Alf, understandably, is one of the worst....
Written by JOHNNY SPEIGHT starring
Guest star, Graham Stark featuring
Anthony Sharp and Mark Eden with Tommy Godfrey and Valerie Murray Music by DENNIS WILSON
Designed by Martin Collins
Produced by DENNIS MAIN WILSON
Contributors
Written By: Johnny Speight
Unknown: Graham Stark
Unknown: Anthony Sharp
Unknown: Mark Eden
Unknown: Tommy Godfrey
Unknown: Valerie Murray
Music By: Dennis Wilson
Designed By: Martin Collins
Produced By: Dennis Main Wilson
Alf: Warren Mitchell
Else: Dandy Nichols
Mike: Anthony Booth
Rita: Una Stubbs
22.15 : THE NEWS
with Richard Baker followed by THE WEATHER
Contributors
Unknown: Richard Baker
22.25 : F.A. CUP SPECIAL
David Coleman reports on today's
F.A. CUP
Third Round
Out cf the 430 Clubs who entered the F.A. Challenge Cup Competition this season, sixty-four remain today to play in this the third round, where the Third and Fourth Division and non-League Clubs are joined by the giants of the First and Second Divisions.
Kenneth Wolstenholme , David Coleman and Alan Weeks report with outside broadcast cameras on three of today's exciting Cup ties.
Television presentation by John McGonagle. Roy Norton
Richard Tilling and Brian Venner Produced by ALEC WEEKS
Contributors
Unknown: David Coleman
Unknown: Kenneth Wolstenholme
Unknown: David Coleman
Unknown: Alan Weeks
Presentation By: John McGonagle.
Presentation By: Roy Norton
Presentation By: Richard Tilling
Presentation By: Brian Venner
Produced By: Alec Weeks
23.15 : BRADEN'S WEEK
Each week
25,000 tons of newsprint
50 hours of news bulletins
One man
BERNARD BRADEN and his team
John Pitman , Esther Rantzen take a look at some of the things that happened-and some of the things that didn't
Song of the week: Jake Thackray
Children of the week:
Harold Williamson
Designer, Don Giles Director, TOM CONWAY
Producer, JOHN LLOYD
Edited by DESMOND WILCOX and BILL MORTON
Contributors
Unknown: Bernard Braden
Unknown: John Pitman
Unknown: Esther Rantzen
Unknown: Jake Thackray
Designer: Don Giles
Director: Tom Conway
Producer: John Lloyd
Edited By: Desmond Wilcox
Edited By: Bill Morton
23.45 : THE WEATHER MAN
Close Down
Thanks for that Soul man. I am not too keen on what those times are, but the breathe of programming seems quite interesting. I can remember watching and interview the Prince Andrew gave while giving a tour of Windsor Castle I believe. He and I are the same age and he was remembering how crazy he was over Dr. Who when he was growing. It being his favorite program. For us, it might have been Batman. LOL
Marv2...Did you notice Jimi Hendrix on the Lulu show...Batman was/is my favourite, in fact I treated myself to the just released blu-ray DVD box set for Christmas.
But, I have a different issue with aging, and that is when among my own age group, and older, I don't feel like I am part of their generation. We were talking about television earlier. I lived through all that, so there is that shared experience. But, I also identify with the younger generations with most things. I will not, and cannot, blame society's ills on the youth, especially when I know how messed up their parents are. Why are their parents messed up? Because our baby-boom generation raised them! The chain goes on down the line. So, the next time you all feel the need to dump on the "kids" for their embrace of technology, their music, movies, ethics, morality, whatever, look at the man in the mirror.
I have to disagree. The Baby Boomers, we were/are great! We weren't just consumers, we stood up and made a difference without any real previous role models [[Anti-War Movement, Civil Rights Movement, Women's Rights Movement,etc.) just to name a few ...............those were OURS!
Nope you're wrong. I sat for nearly 2 hours at a business breakfast and listen to Tom Brokaw drone on and on about "America's Greatest Generation". He was referring to my grandparents generation. The ones that went through the Depression, WWII, built Levittown, etc. and did what they were told to do! These were the parents of the Baby Boom generation and they had very little in common. They were hardly role models for those coming of age in the 60s and 70s! There were no broad-based role models for the counter culture generation. That is why the term "Generation Gap" became popular.
Yes, they were told what to do, but, their children didn't listen. If you look at the definition of "role model", it is that they served as models for how to be, positive or negative. The boomers didn't follow them. But, eventually, most of us turn out like our parents anyway because of how we were nurtured.
That "silent generation" didn't do that good of a job. Just because they lived through a depression and went to war means nothing.
In some respects, I envy my parents' generation. In the pre-television era, because they only had access to 4 BBC radio stations, they shared a common culture. There is so much choice in broadcasting nowadays that it has resulted in society becoming more fragmented.
When I first started this post I had no idea it would evolve the way it has. Very interesting gang. A good conversation.
You are right on the money once more 144man. You see, I can remember in the days when we had fever viewing choices most of all the kids in school would be talking about the same show or shows we all watched the night before. Here in America, EVERYONE seemed to watch "The Ed Sullivan Show" on Sunday nights. The next day all the kids could discuss something we all had in common. Not now, not no way, not no how! 500 channels and still nothing on them. Add in the internet and music downloading, everything is very customized, individualized to the point that we no longer share common memories.
Even the iPod is beginning to loose its hold on the public, as more and more people multi-task on their cellphones.
That said, though I proudly identify as a "child of Motown", I have become so dependent on the various evolutions of mobile music player, I wonder what I did on my first cross country trip to New York without any source of music whatsoever.
And as great mobile music players have become to our lives, we are losing the ability to have a live one on one conversation. That's becoming a lost art, the minute a plane lands 75% of passengers are reaching for their cellphones.
When I was in music, and later in band, they didn't teach us about the people who made the music, they just taught the music itself. In Jr. High and High school band, we played music that was from our own time frame of life, starting in about 1960 forward. If it wasn't classical music in marching and concert band, it was pop/rock/jazz in jazz ensemble. That meant stuff like The Beatles, Cliff Nobels, & Co., Jesus Christ Superstar, Chicago, Billy Joel, MFSB, Carpenters, Maynard Ferguson, Herbie Hancock, and the like.
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In The Netherlands we had only 30 hours of programming per WEEK, as late as 1962, and only 2 channels until 1982, when Sky Channel and Superchannel came in.When TV first started, it was only on sporadically, for an hour or 2 in early evening. When cable came in, all night TV started then. It was pretty much the same in Denmark and Sweden, Germany started some commercial TV alongside the government supported channels a little earlier. But TV in Europe was very limited compared to what was on the airwaves in USA and Canada.
You wanna get a laugh?tell a youngster about[black and white tv]and see the looks you get,priceless,haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
They think 'vertical hold' and 'horizontal hold' are wrestling terms....
Out of those times, the seeds of the digital age was borne by self identified hippies like the late Steve Jobs. The birth of organic foods by visionaries like the conflicted CEO of Whole Foods. Thanks to the hippies, men's fashions expanded from the drab blue and brown suits with the birth of Tom Ford, Yves St. Laurent, Giorgio Armani who would all add flair to their colorful, stylish "designer addicted" haberdashery.
Women freed themselves from the shackles of domestic predictability and would also become CEOs [[though heaven knows with women still paid .77 cents on the dollar, we still have a way to go) Prime Ministers and soon, President of the U.S.A.!
Right on Bokiluis!
Why did the old 'Family Ties' show just pop into my head, where the former hippy parents had the ultra-conservative, far-right leaning teenage son [[Michael J. Fox)?
In the last UK General Election, only half of voters under 25 bothered to register to vote, whereas nearly all of pensioners did. It's obvious who the politicians are going to listen to.
My aunt, who is nearly 70 I think, still works for a major tour company [[Kuoni). As such she is seldom in the country for long, usually just enough time to wash and clean her clothes and pack ready for the next excursion. Similarly, she doesn’t have much time for the usual home comforts. She has a television, but only a black and white set! Every year she goes through the same argument with the television licensing organisation, who simply refuse to believe that in this day and age, any one could still have a black and white television and require a black and white licence [[although their own figures show that there are still some 28,000 homes around the country with a simple black and white set).
The cost of a black and white licence is £49 per annum, compared with £145 for a colour licence. On more than one occasion, she has invited the licensing investigators into her home to check her set and make sure that it is not capable of receiving a colour picture.
That's amazing,nothing wrong with a good ol[black and white tv]i actually have one but it's one of the 5inch screens analoge models but i'm keeping it for old times sake....maybe i'm just and old fuddy duddy but all this techno this and that is a bit much,yes i know this is a new century and we're moving at a breakneck pace,but i long for the days when we moved a little slower and enjoyed it more.
Oh yes, £145.50 for colour, £49.00 for b&w. The BBC is authorised to collect licence payments. Annual licence needs to be paid even if you don't have a TV set, but watch programmes online as they are transmitted....
It's free, if you are 75 years or older. Right now, I'll pay the licence.....:rolleyes:
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The Belgian Superchannel was the "pirate TV station". The Sky Channel came in in 1983. Before then one could get Nederland1 and Nederland 2, and the Belgian public channels [[1 and 2), plus the Belgian French channels [[if you undersood French well enough). In the east and northeast one could also pick up nearby German channels[[3 or 4), if you understood German well enough.
In simple terms, my understanding is that licence money has always gone to the BBC, which was initially our only broadcaster [[it is currently the oldest national and also the largest broadcasting employer in the world), before Independent Television commercial network [[ITV) began in 1955.
The BBC raises funds from licence money, ITV raises funds from advertising.