The lyrics of Little Darlin'. Included willing to pay the price...at any sacrifice...
Do they not? Am I dreaming again?
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The lyrics of Little Darlin'. Included willing to pay the price...at any sacrifice...
Do they not? Am I dreaming again?
Just want to politely also assume, for obscure variety?
I highly doubt people would eat up these Ace / Kent Motown Girls / Guys collections for the same old top ten Motown acts that if one searches them up on Amazon, there will be dozens of pages worth of CDs on them.
I do not have any of the the Motown Girls / Guys collections, yet, but I do have all the four volumes of the Cellarful of Motown series; Supremes, Stevie Wonder, Four Tops, even the Marvelettes were nice "bonuses"; but I mainly bought them for Little Lisa, The Lollipops, Carolyn Crawford, Terry Johnson, Tammi Terrell, Marv Johnson, Chris Clark, Barbara McNair, Lewis Sisters, Brenda Holloway, The Blackberries, Fantastic Four, Frank Wilson, Little Miss Soul....
Well, on Amazon US, it shows that the title is released but Temporarily Out Of Stock. My pre-order is still awaiting a ship date. I'm assuming they did not get any deliveries of this titles as of yet. Now I know how all my British & European friends feel when a title is released in the states and they have to wait for it.
<sigh> My order is still listed as:
"Delivery estimate: We need a little more time to provide you with a good estimate. We'll notify you via e-mail as soon as we have an estimated delivery date. "
Congrats on your delivery date! No e-mails for me, yet.
Attachment 14114
Yes. "Sweet Talkin' Guy". Just as most of the non-Motown remakes were.
Robb, we had to do a lot of "cleaning" on Sweet Talkin' Guy to make it acceptable. It was considered for "Forever More" but turned down as unfinished, not worth bothering with. But there's so little unreleased material on the Marvelettes that we thought it was worth spending some time on it to see what could be done. I'm quite pleased with the result, but my favourite track on the CD is definitely the Little Lisa ...
So, has anyone in the US gotten this release yet? I just got a message from Amazon that it probably won't be available until May 18. I wondered if there is someone else in the US who might still have it in stock.
Mine came from BlowItOuttaHere on Tuesday, April 11. It appears that it is still available there.
My copy arrived from Amazon yesterday [[Tuesday). [[Thom, a few days after we last spoke, Amazon notified me that there would be a delay [[beyond the original delivery date), and they would let me know as soon as the new delivery date is known. The next thing I knew, it was shipped and in my hands two days later. Keep the faith -- your copy will be here soon. - Gary
I received mine from importcds.com on April 10 for $10.13.
Well, I now believe there is a huge conspiracy to keep me from getting this CD. My order from Blowitouttahere should have arrived yesterday. When I checked the tracking number I found out that they don't have the correct shipping address. In fact, they only have half of the address on the label - and NOT the shipping address that was on the confirmation that they sent me. I had to submit a document to the post office to find out where the package is now residing, and I sent an e-mail to Blowitouttahere. Will probably think twice about ordering from them again - not a great first experience.
I feel for you because over the years I have had a problem or two receiving an order from various vendors. However, I must add that I use blowitoutahere regularly [[twice this month even), and have never had a problem. Plus, their prices are generally amazing. I sure hope that your issue is resolved soon!!!
Hi!
My belated review still:
http://www.soulexpress.net/va_moremotowngirls.htm
Best regards
Heikki
I was noticing that on the Liz Lands track "It's Crazy Baby" the song composer credit is given to Frank Wilson. On the ACE/Kent CDs #182 and #065 both releases by Ike & Tina Turner Ike Turner is listed as the composer/writer. You'll find Ike also listed as the writer on the P-Vine #3034 CD "The Soul of Ike & Tina." There is no mention of this in the ACE notes, anybody have any thoughts on this?
From All Music Guide
Song
"It's Crazy Baby"
by Ike & Tina Turner
Composed by Ike Turner
Song
"It's Crazy Baby"
by Tina Turner
Composed by Ike Turner
Song
"It's Crazy Baby"
by Ike & Tina Turner
Song
"It's Crazy Baby"
by Liz Lands
Composed by Frank Wilson
For the Liz Lands song, DFTMC shows
It's Crazy Baby [[Frank Wilson) published Jobete
Liz Lands; recorded California, completed by 25-Oct-64 ; produced by Marc Gordon, Hal Davis ; [with horns]
Mar-18; CD [[M): Ace CDTOP 1524 Baby I've Got It! - More Motown Girls [2018 mix] [UK]
The Ike & Tina Turner song seems to be from 1967. On that basis I would have to give it to Frank Wilson.
I would have to agree with you Mystery Singer. It just seems odd that something like that got by without any of the publishers or record companies not having notice it. After all the Ikettes did recorded another one of his Jobete songs, "I'm So Thankful." Maybe Ike was given demos for the songs and went on to claim "It's Crazy Baby" as his own composition thinking no one would take note. He was known for renaming a lot of song-titles on his records and other shady dealings.
Ike & Tina Turner version of "It's Crazy Baby"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2nOHTJ6eig
Impressive research and memory, brother_love. I actually have one of the Ace Ike & Tina Turner CDs you cite, but haven't listened to it for ages and didn't recall the song when compiling the Girls CD.
I got the writer info for "It's Crazy Baby" from two sources - the Motown Tape Filing Card and the [[1967) Jobete Catalog, both internal Motown documents. I checked at ASCAP and BMI, but there is no song at either site called “It’s Crazy Baby”, so it seemed safe to credit it to Wilson.
Dating the two recordings is problematic. Bob McGrath just says 1963-1966 for Ike & Tina’s version [[i.e. the duration of the Turners’ stay at Kent): he doesn’t mention location, but he shows other Ike & Tina recordings from the period as having been cut in LA [[Kent/Modern’s home town) so that’s a likely guess. The Turners' version was first released on on their Kent [[US) LP “The Soul Of Ike & Tina” in 1966/7. Liz’s version was also cut in LA: we don’t know exactly where or when, but the tape was logged in at Hitsville on Oct 25 1964.
There are various possiblities, here are two. First is that Turner wrote it and Wilson heard it [[maybe on an acetate, as the LP wasn’t out yet) and decided to cut it on Liz. He left off the writer credit on the paperwork he sent to Hitsville [[maybe he didn’t know), so the clerk there wrote it down as Wilson, as he was [[a) the producer and [[b) an established writer. But the clerk forgot to register the title at BMI. The other option is that Wilson wrote it, one of the musicians on the Liz Lands session brought it to Ike’s attention and Ike & Tina cut it. Since the song wasn’t registered, Kent/Modern claimed it for Ike on the LP [[they probably owned his publishing rights at the time). But they forgot to register it too.
I don't think this is something we'll ever get to the bottom of ...
Keith
If we can date an Ike & Tina recording of the song before the recording of Liz Lands version that might give the song to Ike. Also, if Motown were unsure about the pedigree of the song that would presumably be a good reason for leaving it in the vault though the Liz Lands version may only ever have been a demo?
Hi!
Seems that Ike & Tina cut their Kent sides in late 1964.
http://www.45cat.com/artist/ike-and-tina-turner
Best regards
Heikki
Though Ike was notorious was taking credit for songs he sometimes had little to do with. Most of his songs were relatively simple in structure and he also wrote many soundalikes to his songs that made the charts such as "A Fool in Love." I don't have it in front of me but I even think he took credit for much of the blues standards on their two Blue Thumb LPs, "Outta Season" and "The Hunter," when some of those songs had been around for years and years.