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I can understand your deflation but I proffer that for many of our favorite recording artists recording sessions are 'just another day at the office', especially for the Motown stable who all recorded hundreds of songs, learning a new one day after day, and moved on to the next. I recommend being inflated [[re-flated?) by the simple fact that we get to luxuriate in the music whenever we choose!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebrock
Loved this song and album.
My first ever Ross solo album .still a favorite to this day.
I am disappointed that Motown didn't reissue this after love hangover.lost gem. Many in the Ross catalogue.
I think we could do a hits collection of the misses.
Bluebrock.glad to hear your going thru your journels.maybe one day you ll get a book.. good luck with it.look forward to it
Interesting title for the album. I wonder if they were confused by the album being named DIANA ROSS?Quote:
Originally Posted by jack020
I know I was. As a kid when I first saw the album in the stores, I thought it was titled THEME FROM MAHOGANY..., as that was the first song title listed after her name. At that point, I had never heard of an artist using the same title for separate albums.
I was surprised, too, at the same album titles. This Japanese label is interesting because I've thought a good title for Diana Ross '76 would have been Today I Fell In Love. This would have been a great way to highlight the song as the follow-up to Theme from Mahogany. [[Although Love Hangover was the obvious follow-up.)Quote:
Originally Posted by reese
It also speaks to the album's theme of the ins and outs of falling in love. Also, the album was released around Valentines Day.
That's too funny. I guess when you record so many songs, you just have to go with the ones that stick, the others fall away. I always wondered how the Supremes learned the songs they performed because there was probably production stuff done after the vocals, and they might not have heard a finished copy until it was released or they were having to perform it.
Here ya go !Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Oba8OO9wk
There goes those Fifth's again ! Dippin' into Diana's well !:p Don't tell me these two rush released this version when Diana' got pulled !:rolleyes: lol!
It's a good song and its too bad it got the short shrift. I'd call it Top Twenty material.
imo Diana's version needed something new included into its final third /quarter, something additional vocally , instrumentally, to give it a little lift. By the end of the song I'm finding myself fatigued by the repeated title lyric... wanting less of it or something more around it ...
But its a good one.
Added: boy that intro in the McCoo/Davis version.... sure sounds like they are about to sing YOU ARE EVERYTHING ....imo
Thanks, Boogie. growing up I only ever heard M and B's version and I thought it was the strongest song they'd done in a long time. I never even knew DR had done it before them! And yeah it's weird how often either the 5th or M&B sang DR songs. Florence sang Ain't No Mountain for years. I was in a hallway at an airport back in the late 80's when the [[then) current 5th got off a plane, and some guy in the crowd yelled out "Hey Diana Ross!!!!" at Florence. Florence was not pleased and made some remark like here we go again--like this happened all the time! It's true she had a look like Diana's for a while, and she covered like 15 DR songs, so it's not like the comparison comes out of nowhere. I don't think Florence is a very nice person. Marilyn is super nice
Ha and you're welcome.
I think the love lyric has a good twist to it,
but shouldn't the title be
I THOUGHT IT TOOK A LITTLE TIME [[TO LEARN ABOUT LOVIN')
I find this performance rather lifeless and pedestrian.. Diana’s version is far more engaging. It’s when you hear other artists singing a song you associate with DR that you realise just how good she is. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogiedown
In some instances, like Children's Christmas Song, there are pics of M and F on the Hullaballoo set with sheet music. learning the backgrounds, since they weren't on the record. And there are stories about M and C working with Cholly and not knowing the song since they weren't on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by drlorne
Also listen to Reflections. M and C always sang the full background vocals at the bridge even though they were cut from the released version. "All in vain, reflections remain."
and for Forever Came Today, I guess no one could figure out what the heck the backgrounds were so for the Sullivan show, M and C just sang "ahhhhhhhhhhhhh"
in Come See About Me, on the record F and M often do a "mmm hmmm" in the background but live they always sang the words with Diana. I'm guessing Mmm Hmmm might be too difficult to hear and wouldn't really come across on stage. easier to project with the words
I wasn't going to say anything , but since you brought it up.... the chemistry here , eye contact , lack of, etc. its almost as if they barely want to be on stage together, much less be married ....
well, they do hold hands for a practiced limp way for a bit ...
[[ actually, I think Billy tries , but she ain't having it lol!)
They DO seem really stiff. I wonder why? Billy is probably my favorite male singer but he has always been God awful when it comes to stage presence, particularly on TV. If he's "in love, so in love" he might want to get within 50 feet of her. I mean good GOD
Stacey Lattisaw does a nice version of I Thought... as well, on one of her eighties albums...Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyC
An informative post Florence that kind of sums up just what happened with ITITALT.Quote:
Originally Posted by florence
I personally have always considered “After You” a more memorable ballad with far better lyrics. I tend to think of Diana Ross 76 as the quintessential Diana album as in...
1. The artwork is superb
2. All the songs are great
3. There is a little something to suit everyone’s taste.
Perhaps ITITALT would have had more impact if the final chorus wasn't cut so short. The alternate version on the expanded album had a "fantastic celebratory feel of finding love" with it's longer final chorus.
I love both versions of the song. For me, a real classic Diana ballad.
I agree After You could have been a potential hit in it's own right. The Black album was a very consistent album despite the number of different producers on board. Kiss me now is my least favorite song on there, but even that is quite charming in it's own little way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie9
Great album.
agree that this is a very strong album. Some fans don't care for Kiss Me Now or at least placing it after LH. Let's be honest - LH was such a powerful and ground breaking song that it would be hard to follow it in an lp lineup. LH is about ecstasy and I think KMN is that playful goofy after glow. without getting too graphic, it's the smile, wink and laugh you share with your partner [[or maybe partners!! lolol)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie9
Another track that some don't care for is Smile. It is a bit sacchrine and now we know it was part of the Blue and Lady sessions. i do think it's a nice song though. Maybe she could have used To Love Again instead
I remember being at a family party when a cousin put on the 45 of LOVE HANGOVER. Everyone was grooving but then he turned it over to play KISS ME NOW. It lasted about one verse before the needle was removed. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sup_fan
It certainly isn't my favorite song. But I think its placement on the album is perfect. After those two great ballads and then the long LOVE HANGOVER, it was sort of cute to end Side One with this little harmless ditty.
I can't think of another place on the album where KMN would have fit better. As I think with most of the albums back then, I really feel great care went into the sequencing. Now I find it doesn't seem as important. I suppose since we now have the option of hitting the skip button on the cd player as opposed to getting up and lifting the arm off the vinyl.
agree that with an lp back in the day, you needed to really think about the sequence of the songs. not saying motown always was right [[for instance i always found it odd that Sup 75 ended with You Turn Me around).
the other option would simply to have ended Side A with LH. but i agree that I think KMN sort of works fine there. DR 76 is not a disco album, like what Donna Summer was releasing. there were a couple hard dance songs, big sweeping ballads, a couple mid tempo ones. lots of variety.
i do think DR could have pulled off a more focused dance lp. the high-art look of this album, a steady run of incredible dance songs [[like if she had done the follow up of Don't Leave Me This Way) could have made an amazing package
Bobby , I rewatched and to be fair, the segment seems highly scripted, "Billy you sit here , Marilyn you walk to here, join hands and walk six steps, and when singing this line switch to camera two..."Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyC
They seem very concerned about hitting their marks , looking at the right camera . McCoo doesn't find the right camera until 2:23 lol! Not well rehearsed? Kind of takes the naturalness out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Oba8OO9wk
Hey maybe this is the performance you were remembering:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKFbwtIm_EY
Yep--that's the one I saw. Much better