Why not just pray for a U.K. Eddie Holland Anthology containing Motown 604 + UA singles+ Motown non-lp single sides and lots of previously unreleased tracks ?
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Why not just pray for a U.K. Eddie Holland Anthology containing Motown 604 + UA singles+ Motown non-lp single sides and lots of previously unreleased tracks ?
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I'm taking this to imply [[and almost guarantee) that the versions we want WILL be released in the not too distant future. So, I now rest a little easier. Thank you, Sir.
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I don't agree with your taste. Quality Control had a job to do [[get the best sellers released). My taste [[and that of a lot of other Motown fans) often is different from that of the masses. But, I love The Motown Sound so much, that getting gems like "Crying In The Night" - Monitors, "A Woman Won't Do Right"-Shorty Long, "Tears, Nobody and A Smile"-Serenaders, "Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde" -Versatones, "Until You Came Along"-Carolyn Crawford, "Suspicion"-Originals, "All I Do"-Tammi Terrell, etc. would be worth it, EVEN if I only liked 10% of the songs. But, I love The Motown sound so much, that even if 50% of what is released on these CDs is not quite as good as Motown's hits, they aren't much lower in quality, so , I still enjoy hearing them. After all, there are no people making 1964 recordings any more. So, this is my chance to hear new music I like. NO ONE is making vocal recordings now that I like to hear. Jazz is the only current medium where new music is made that I enjoy hearing. So, if they release previously unreleased 1946-69 music of the style I like at a decent quality level, I'm very happy. Can you tell me that "Love Woke Me Up This Morning" by Brenda Holloway isn't as good as 95% of what was released on her? "I Should Have Known Better"- Marvelettes? "A Tear From A Woman's Eye"-Temptations? "Any Girl In Love"-Kim Weston. Those are absolute gems, and certainly better than more than half [[if not 2/3) the cuts released on those artists.
You DEFINITELY have a problem liking these CDs if you only like stereo.
In my case, I got into the Motown Sound hearing the hits...especially the beat..
"Uptight" and "Love is like an itching" grabbed my attention...I thought..wow these
songs have such a STRONG beat..I had been into James Brown and Wilson Pickett [[I
liked the screaming) before..
I then noticed that that type of music had a certain style that set it apart in general
from other labels such as Stax or Atlantic...So I thought ok what other songs does this
company make?...I ended up playing catch up and buying the Motown songs I had missed..along with the ones that came out..[[this was in late 1966)...that I got into
popular music and Motown..
I basically have all the classic Motown records [[originals)...I thought well that is it..
Then the L&Fs and the Cellarfuls started coming out..so it is like buying Motown records all over again...I just LOVE that sound!...In my opinion..the Cellarfuls and L&Fs material
98% would have made good album cuts in the 60s..and some of it equal to the classics
2% maybe I can see why it stayed in the vaults...Hats off to Paul Nixon and all who were involved in these projects..
A friend of mine says All that Motown stuff sounds alike..its boring..I said I like to hear
different combinations of the same sound..I like House Music also, in a way it sounds alike but it dosen't..
Nabob,
You are incorrectly assuming that we are saying that CFOM and L&F tracks are BETTER than the cuts chosed by Quality Control, who in the main, picked the best, commercial discs to issue.
But, if you liked a book by a favourite Author, would you not want to read ALL his/her output than continually read the same book over and over again. How would you know what you were missing?
I've purchased a lot of the collections providing tracks from the vault. The experience is that very few of the tracks have made their way into regular rotation. I am not saying that this is not good music. I'm just saying that very little of it makes me want to do something unnecessary. The comment was mostly directed toward being able to understand the fascination generated when unheard music becomes available.
Surely all the records that Quality Control issued was "unheard music" once upon a time?
It just got somebody's vote at the expense of other tunes....like those on CFOM , L&F etc
Remember that because of Bille-Jean Brown & the QC 'Jimmy Mack' lay in the vaults for 3 yrs!!!! As I said it's different strokes for different folks - in other words personal opinion/choice.
It's easy to appreciate both sides of this debate [[and easy to see that I'm turning into an old fart, as I think that the not-released Motown stuff exceeds the quality of most of today's music by millions of miles). One earlier Cellar cut could easily have been a big hit, I believe: You've Got to Pay the Price, with the Supremes' version of lyrics tossed on top of the Al Kent song. Or maybe it's just because I adore the Al Kent song. And love Jean Terrell. And appreciate that you can hear the back-up vocals. It's complicated!
It was only the constraints of time that stopped the issue of a lot of these recordings. The market would have been flooded.
That's quite correct 144man
It was just not possible to issue all these records.......some were not good enough , for commercial release it's true, but many are just , if not , better, than tracks voted for.
Which brings me to a question I was going to ask.
There must have been layers of "Quality control" before they reached the OFFICIAL meetings.
It would not have been possible for the top table to have listened and evaluated ALL recordings .So there must have been some filtering out at a lower stage.....and with that comes personal taste,friendships, jealousy,envy.............all kinds of factors that affected the potential chances of 100s of cuts.
As a collector, and Massive fan of the Motown Artists and Sound, I am really happy to get these Lost and Found and Cellar Full Discs, along with the Anthologies and even the Spectrum discs, reason being, that as long as there are these Gems sneaking out of the Vaults for the Fans it Keeps the interest alive in Motown and its Legacy, and for the Casual buyers there are always the 'Gold's' greatest Hits and another collection to buy. Since these anthologies have seen the light of day it has brought Brenda, Kim, Velvelettes,Chuck, Mable, Chris Clark over on Tour to the UK, and if it was not for these relases, myself and many others would never have been able to see these legends perform Live, and for that reason I will carry on buying these cd's.
well, I JUST Have to say that I am so grateful that this music is finally, albeit slowly, being made available for all us MOTOWN FANS! MAY IT LONG CONTINUE!! Thanks to Paul Nixon, HW Etal, we should be forever thankful.YES, some of the tracks would never have had a chance of getting past quality control and to the top of the charts, BUT, arent they fantastic, in their own way? I love many other forms of music, including Jazz, Jazz-Funk,Trance, Techno [[DETROIT), Hard House, and other idioms.BUT, give me Wanda, Levi, Martha, Tammi etc etc...and Im in heaven. Mono, Stereo,Quad..who cares? Just give me that Sound of young America....ta..LOL..PAULO XXXXX P.S. Who said Its Whats In the Grooves that Count??
You just did!
...HMV just cheered me up...
Your order’s in the post and should be with you soon. If you’ve pre–ordered, we'll aim to get it to you on the day of release [[UK deliveries only).
Qty Format Artist Title Price Estimated Delivery
1 CD VA A CELLARFUL OF MOTOWN VOLUME 4 £8.99 2-5 days
:)
Actually...the original motto on the Gordy label was "It's What's in the Grooves that Count"...BAD grammar! The graphics were changed to correct grammar in 1967.
Mine's ln the post as well. YIPPEE!!!
and only£6 99p on play.com
Gordy
Perish the thought that I'm a tight [[squeak squeak) wad....but I could only find the £8.99 copy.
On my mp3 player, the Cellarful of Motwn and the Connosieur Series are in rotation all the time. Some of what is released on the COM series are better than some of the albumtracks that were released and I still listen to those. I've even put a few of the songs from COM on compilations for friends and on music cd's for events and they always fit the mood of the party or the event just fine.
And I prefer the unreleased to another hits compilation.
http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/1606...4/Product.html
It's £8.99 on Play unless you can find a different link!
My copy arrived today and I have just started listening to CD1 :)
...mine too rovereab ...listening to it right now ...great to hear each song in its entirity ...after only hearing the samples earlier ...loving the Joe Stubbs track as I write ...you open the cd case and are hit with a glorious photo ...that every UK Motown fan will warm to ...the essays and annotations are more thorough than ever ...the pics are exquisite ...the whole production looks classier ...thank you so much ...to Paul Nixon ...Chris Jenner ...and Keith Hughes ...a fantastic job ...amazingly well done!!!
...now to Disc 2
Grape :)
grapevine and rob who did you order from, i preordered with amazonuk. i am so jealous lol, cheers
I've ordered with amazon too....:[[
BUT to ease the pain, I've linked on to the mp3 "play all tracks" on CFOM vol 1.......and it sounds better than ever, not played it for a while.
The quality of these vaulted tunes is remarkably high..
"Lucky Lucky me" indeed!
Have just finished playing it so here are my initial thoughts.
In my view COM4 is different from the previous volumes as the tracks & artists chosen don't all have what I think of as having a distinct Motown sound. The compilers have mixed things up a bit and it's worked out for the better. It all begins with the Blackberries 'Kidnapped' which is a real Motown stomper even though it's from the '70's [[I think). As side one progresses it goes through various styles & tempos which kept my interest although there are a couple of tracks which still have to grow on me. Side two is 24ct gold, again with a diverse range of artists and sounds. From Martha Reeves & The Vandellas brash 'Miss Lonely Heart' to Brenda Holloway's sublime 'Little Miss Loser' the quality never drops. Many of the tracks should have been singles and could have been hits. COM4 shows conclusively that Motown was just not always pumping out the same old song, however good it might be.
Picking out favourites is difficult as I have so many but I'll list a few. From side one I think that the big surprises are 'All I Need Is A Chance' - Robert Dobyne, 'Daddy, Cool' - Oma Heard & 'Have A Little Patience [[And Wait) - Mary Wells. Stand outs from side two are 'Only A Lonely Man Would Know' - Ivy Jo Hunter, 'It's Gonna Be Always' - Blinky, 'Don't Let Me Be Lonely' - Tammi Terrell & 'Mobile Lil The Dancing Witch' - Shorty Long.
The liner notes are great & readable without a magnifying glass which is even better. The photos are lovely especially that new one of Blinky. Lastly the two most important words are the final two written in the introduction which are 'so far'!
Grateful thanks to Paul N, Keith, Chris and all those involved in what is probably the most interesting edition of the COM series.
Now Copley. I'm surprised that you never mentioned the Marvelettes.
Was that not one that hit the spot?
Even though I ordered the set when it first went online with Amazon UK it is only just showing today ready for shipping can't cancel, but it has been Reduced to £6.99p, take of a £1 for postage and the packing, £5.99 amazing!
mines been dispatched from amazon today [[sat).some on motwntreasures already have theirs from hmv,i think.how do they get it quicker?amazons THE force in the market so why cant they get it at least as fast.never mind at least it is coming
I used to work in a music department...and let me tell you, we would get in SO much trouble for selling things BEFORE the street date [[yep, they track units sold and the date). Must be different rules in the UK to ship an item before it officially hits stores...every time I've preordered from Amazon.com, it ships the day of release, not before.
The overseas rate from Amazon.co.uk is £7.65...not sure where the £5.99 is coming from!
My copy was mailed today so it may arrive Wednesday? copley I said £6.99 less you mean aftee the approx costs for postage and packaging, when I looked at my order late last night then I saw it had been changed from £8.99 to £6.99 and that' what has gone through, Amazon often update prices.
Mine is on its way from Amazon too - At £6.99
Good heavens! Well that is incredible, how do they make any money at that price?
i had £2.51 lurking in my amazon account [[left over from a gift certificate),so it turns out i now only pay £4.48.i'd forgotten about the gift cert.and i dont remember ticking anything to use it.
i dont know how anyone makes any money out of this tho'.i love getting it cheap,but the thing is if they cant make much money will they bother to do a com 5?
Mine hasn't dispatched yet, but it is now only £6.99!
thank you for the head's up about this, I still haven't heard the 3rd one so I better catch up ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHH3VIwgdKg
Robert Dobyne - All I Need Is A Chance