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Well alright! Get on down Mary Wilson! LOL! Thank you very much Luke!
Believe it or not, of the three songs, I like Mary on "Respect" the most. The arrangement was suited to her and didn't try to get too Aretha-esque. It was very contemporary 80s rock/soul. I cringed when I saw the title. Nothing about Mary says she should be covering the Queen. But I'm glad to see that she handled it well. "Bad Case Of Loving You" was okay. I enjoyed the musicians more than anything else, but Mary did an acceptable job. I didn't enjoy her duet with Bill Medley at all. During this time Mary seemed to enjoy showing off the power of her voice rather than the melody, which was glaringly absent from her performance of "Mountain". This just wasn't Mary's forte. She should've been doing songs like "Piano In the Dark" or covering Anita Baker. The world would've really been able to see what Mary's true gifts are.
I very much enjoyed Mary singing this Aretha classic. From the play, "Beehive":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hESz0BB32UI
These are not bad and fit with the times
If Mary had stayed consistent with something, had a record contract and some decent management and dropped the constant connection she always made to Diana Ross, she might have had a hit and done okay
Instead, now it’s just all about her connection to Diana and Motown
I have the audio of this in my collection. I think I've said this in the forum before, but my opinion is that Mary does not have a voice that lends itself well to singing other people's songs. She definitely needed songwriters and producers who would give her original material that she could sink her teeth into. However, there are always exceptions to rules and this video of "Do Right Woman, Man" is a case in point. She doesn't make me forget about Queen Ree, but she does an admirable job. Now when she did "Don't Let the Teardrops Bother You", she made Dionne Warwick's version instantly forgettable.Quote:
Originally Posted by marv2
I agree with consistency and decent management [[which may have secured her a recording contract with a major player). During the 80s she was all over the place with the music she was doing, most of which weren't all that suited to her talents IMO. I hate to see talented people not get what they deserved. And after everything Mary went through as a Supreme and then as a battered wife, she deserved at least one number one hit and a million selling album that was all Mary and nobody else.Quote:
Originally Posted by jobeterob
I would've LOVED it for Mary to sing "Piano in the Dark"!!!
Have you heard her do Sting's "Fields of Gold"?Quote:
Originally Posted by RanRan79
She did, but this is not her best performance of it. I have a great version she did in 1990. This is from a concert in 1999:Quote:
Originally Posted by midnightman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ2j-KEeOHw
I think Mary did sing Piano in the Dark In her 90s shows.
She seemed at her best with the ballads; I thought Touch was really good; it was very difficult to have a hit with those kinds of songs. But Roberta Flack sure did it.
I know that the other members of Destiny’s Child had some early success; have they disappeared or are they still achieving some success?
..and then there was "HERO" by Mariah Carey. She added this to her concerts shortly after the death of her son in 1994:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU2d5g-TMpI
The duet with Bill Medley was actually the pilot for Mary Wilson's and Bill Medley's proposed show called "Shout!" in 1987. The very tail end of the clip is the promo for "Supreme Soul" the stage musical Mary starred in with Tommy Nillson in Sweden in 1997. I have seen the entire show and it was pretty spectacular.
Right? It's tailor made for a voice like Mary's. I'm glad Brenda Russell got a big hit out of it, but there will always be a part of me that wishes she had called Mary up and was like "Girl, have I got a song for you!"Quote:
Originally Posted by midnightman
I hadn't until just now when I looked it up on Youtube. The only vid I found was of her doing it in 2012 and the audience is talking so damn loud that it was too distracting for me to sit through the whole song.Quote:
Originally Posted by marv2
The sound isn't the best, but she definitely sounds good, just like I thought she would. Would love if she did a studio version of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by marv2
Mary's forte was always ballads. That was her lane, though with the right up tempo song she could still do well. I've said before that Mary should've been given the leads on some Roberta Flack type tunes. They had very similar lower ranges, although Roberta was better equipped with an upper range than Mary was.Quote:
Originally Posted by jobeterob
Regarding Destiny's Child, I wasn't a fan- with the exception of an occasional song- and don't really follow any of them as soloist. However, Letoya, who was one of the originals kicked out, had a couple of big hits on her own and then segued into movies and TV, which she is pretty good at and works consistently.
Now that was nice. She could've done without the one background singer, the dude on the end. But other than that, very well done. I wonder if Mariah has ever seen this.Quote:
Originally Posted by marv2
Ok check this out starting at around 10:53 into the video. I was at this concert. There were upwards of 20,000 people according to the NY Park Ranger, but the stage was elevated high above the crowd so there aren't as many distractions:Quote:
Originally Posted by RanRan79
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uciZTl9hUB4&t=503s
What a flat out lie. No disrespect for Mary but there is absolutely no way she performed before 20,000 people - maybe before 1970 but c’mon, let’s be realistic here.Quote:
Originally Posted by marv2
Then prove him wrong.
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Originally Posted by monicarivers
Where is HIS proof? I’d like to have a word with that park ranger. Mary Wilson MIGHT attract 1,000 people on a good night. You all are insufferable when it comes to defending his nonsense. Why not just block me, blackguy69 if you are going to continue to come at me every time I question your boyfriend?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackguy69
That and "Been Around the World" by Lisa Stansfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by luke
My my aren’t we bitchy lol. If you are saying he’s lying then you should be able to prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by monicarivers
Anyone grounded in reality knows that Mary Wilson has never performed before 20,000 people. Stop defending him. You’re attacking the wrong person. Not sure what his appeal is to you all...Quote:
Originally Posted by blackguy69
You haven’t proved your point yet. Sounds more to me you’re kinda obsessed with Marv. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by monicarivers
And while I’m at it why don’t you just stick to the Diana Ross threads since you seem not to enjoy any of the other Supremes.
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Originally Posted by monicarivers
[QUOTE=blackguy69;568400]And while I’m at it why don’t you just stick to the Diana Ross threads since you seem not to enjoy any of the other Supremes.[/QUOTE
I literally praised Lynda in the thread on her solo show along with Scherrie. I’ve also posted a few Mary clips. I’m sorry you support Marv’s wishing Diana bodily harm and death. IMHO, that’s immediate ground for him to be silenced and/or banned. Very unfortunate. Per RanRan79, I still don’t know why you don’t have me on ignore. You’re attempts at calling me out are futile at best.
Yes, she does a really good job with "Fields". Mind you I am totally unfamiliar with Sting's version, but clearly this performance is right up Mary's alley. But her version of "You Are So Beautiful" [[a song I really don't care for) is even better. She did a great job with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by marv2
I wish there was a feature that blocked when other posters quote profiles on my ignore list. I know others have made that wish known but now I'm adding my voice to the choir.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackguy69
In any case, a Google search would've placed the contested audience in perspective. The following is from a 2011 appearance of Mary's at the same park:
"On Thursday, July 28, the 33rd annual Seaside Summer Concert Series at Coney Island, hosted by Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz, will welcome Mary Wilson of The Supremes as well as The Spinners...the Seaside Series has been the largest free summer concert series in the New York Metropolitan area for the past three decades, entertaining tens of thousands of music lovers every year."
No one would have ever believed that 20,000 people bought tickets [[or even showed up) to a Mary Wilson solo concert just to see Mary. She doesn't have that kind of name recognition. [[Hell, at this point I'd be surprised if Diana could sell 20,000 tickets in the States for any one venue.) I knew as soon as Marv said 20,000 that it was some kind of free concert in the park because I put my thinking cap on.
I use to wish she wouldn't sing that [["You Are So Beautiful") because so many people have. Years ago she did a stellar version of a combination of "Free Again/I Will Survive" on "The Phil Donahue Show". I would love to hear her do that one now.Quote:
Originally Posted by RanRan79
Bingo!Quote:
Originally Posted by RanRan79
Again!
And then he shuts up or disappears, knackered and cowardly again
Well done RanRan
I wouldn't want to hear her do "Free Again/I Will Survive". Gladys Knight did a KILLER mashup of the two in her act for many years. I think this might be one of those instances where I would be comparing the first version I heard to the second and I can't imagine anybody doing it better than Gladys.Quote:
Originally Posted by marv2
SHE appreciates the context regarding the crowd size and wishes it would have been presented in the original posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by jobeterob